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1 posted on 03/28/2007 11:27:34 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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New Jersey Ex-Cop Killed In Apparent Gun Accident

By Associated Press
March 27, 2007


JERSEY CITY — A retired Jersey City police officer died yesterday at a city police building when a handgun discharged as he was cleaning it, police said.

Robert J. McGillis Jr., 53, died of a single gunshot wound to the chest and was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after noon, police said.

The shooting appeared to be accidental, police said.

A preliminary investigation found that McGillis was cleaning the large-caliber handgun at the time of the accident.


2 posted on 03/28/2007 11:30:08 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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nobody heard the shot?


3 posted on 03/28/2007 11:30:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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Mar 26, 7:08 PM EDT

Retired Jersey City cop dies from gunshot in apparent accident


JERSEY CITY, N.J. (AP) -- A retired Jersey City police officer died Monday at a city police building when a handgun discharged as he was cleaning it, police said.

Robert J. McGillis Jr., 53, died of a single gunshot wound to the chest and was pronounced dead at the scene shortly after noon, police said.

The shooting appeared to be accidental, police said.

A preliminary investigation found that McGillis, who retired in June of 2000 and was rehired in January 2006 as a consultant and coordinator for the K-9 unit, was cleaning the large-caliber handgun at the time of the accident. Cleaning materials were on a table adjacent to where the shooting occurred, officials said.

McGillis joined the Jersey City Police Department in 1976 and was the recipient of five commendations. He was a member of the department's Emergency Service Unit as a K-9 officer. He came back from retirement to oversee an expansion of the department's K-9 unit.

The Hudson County Prosecutor's Office is handling the investigation.


5 posted on 03/28/2007 11:32:14 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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in what police say likely was a gun-cleaning accident.

I have family members in law enforcement who tell me this is a canned response to cover up suicide.

Whether this is true or not, I hope his soul is now at peace.
7 posted on 03/28/2007 11:33:21 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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Odd way to report the story... Guns do not discharge while they are being cleaned. They only discharge when the trigger is pressed.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how he could come to point a loaded gun at his chest with his finger on the trigger while cleaning the gun....?

8 posted on 03/28/2007 11:33:54 AM PDT by BRITinUSA
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Gun cleaning instructions:

1. Clean weapon of any unused ammunition.

2. .....

9 posted on 03/28/2007 11:34:23 AM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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Maybe he should have taken the bullets out and cleaned them first.


11 posted on 03/28/2007 11:35:38 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (forbidden fruit creates many jams.)
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Too bad, that's a hard thing. Even after years and years of handling firearms basic safety is still important.


13 posted on 03/28/2007 11:37:00 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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Something fishy about this story. I don't know what kind of gun he was cleaning, but at what point in the cleaning process do you point the gun at yourself and pull the trigger?


17 posted on 03/28/2007 11:38:37 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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The firearm that caused the fatal wound was a .40 caliber Glock
semiautomatic handgun recently given McGillis
by the Roselle Police Department, where he is a special police officer.

Most likely without proper training.

NRA safe gun handling rules:

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use


19 posted on 03/28/2007 11:46:56 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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Probably a suicide. Cops who found him most likely got out a cleaning kit to save his benefits for his family and save his and their dignity.
21 posted on 03/28/2007 11:56:00 AM PDT by txroadkill
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What was his relationship with the Clintons???


35 posted on 03/28/2007 1:14:59 PM PDT by KingRonnie9
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Suicide is possible, but most people don't shoot themselves in the chest - ouch.

Also, career wise it would seem this guy had a decent gig, not the usual LEO grind by a stretch.

Glocks can bite if mishandled, have to wonder if this guy had any training or if gunhandling skills were just assumed given his background?

As someone already pointed out, the Glock striker must be forward in order to remove the slide, only way to do that is to pull the trigger. If it's loaded, it will go off, mag in or out.

36 posted on 03/28/2007 1:16:56 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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This kind of accident happens to more police officers than civilians. I have read a few reports of officers putting holes in a number of walls, ceilings, lockers, floors and each other clearing weapons.

Familiarity breeds safety, but the costs of practice and instruction are prohibitive enough for most agencies to tell officers, 'if it appears to be a shooting situation to wait for SWAT.' Most officers never draw their weapons in their careers.

49 posted on 03/29/2007 4:27:51 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Being a successful mayor of a cesspool doesn't change the fact it is still a cesspool.)
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I'm sure even before reading this thread that many replies will ridicule this guy for making a mistake while handling his gun (assuming that's what it was).

I don't trust people who think they're incapable of making a mistake with a firearm. They're more dangerous, IMHO. Nothing invites disaster like familiarity and a perception of invulnerability. This guy no doubt handled guns safely for his entire life, right up until that last time. It's a safe bet that he's quoted all the rules to somebody before...

The first step in caution is to assume that you can screw up too.

IMHO.


50 posted on 03/29/2007 4:29:29 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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