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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: roses of sharon

“Who is now being praised by LB.”

Who hasn’t got much choice to do otherwise.

Personally, I’d like to see him tell the media that the reason he says things are going well for him, is because he has an agreement with Virgie and it is, in fact, HKS who is holding up his getting custody of DL, because HKS continues to object.

Good for the goose, good for the gander. HKS did it...LB should too...but he his hands are tied.


7,681 posted on 04/23/2007 4:47:45 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: blueplum

“again, a maintenance methadone dose level would not have been sufficient reason for Anna to lose custody”

According to the typical operations of the children’s social services in California there was a strong likelihood it would have been or at minimum a reason to remove the child to LB’s custody temporarily with her having only visitations. The children’s social services do it all the time. They’re very very powerful in this way and no one - no attorney, no child expert, no psychiatrist or psychologist has any priority standing or sway in Family Court, a separate and unique animal. And the social workers LOVE to make an issue with celebrity parents on any point they can. That’s why most divorce attys do everything in their power to keep their clients out of the CPS and Family court. Once they’re in the maw of Family court, they’ve lost control. HKS would have known this from any of his legal buds.

It’s often not in the best interests of the child, but it doesn’t have to be. The court pretty much awards it’s decision making power to the investigating social workers... who are not the same as the “while they’re in the court” social worker, who is different from the “post court” compliance social worker. Maybe in your state it’s different. KE and HKS would have been keenly aware of this.

The machinery is that way b/c the drug babies are a big money maker for the state adoptions and foster care agencies. The state collects quite a bit of money on each drug baby they can remove. So even if they couldn’t have removed DL, the machinery is in place to really torture a celebrity family with alleged narcotic drug use and a suspicious death.

Also I think you’ve taken “forced withdrawal” too narrowly. I’m not saying that ONLY an agency was forcing it. “Circumstances” were forcing it and the following circumstances were relevent potential contributers to that sense of urgency, with the primary, NO. 1 circumstance being:

(1)I believe KE and HKS were running out of ways to “get” a large, reliable amount of methadone by prescription. After the business with being counseled by the pharmacy dept at USC, she would have known that she was, at minimum, being reported for investigation of her prescribing practices.

Their ability to obtain the stuff was forcing this. And how do you know ANS was keeping herself on any maintenance regimen? If supplies were limited, then she’d be using everything and there’d be little to none left for and minimial users in her entourage and that alone would cause sympathies to dry up. Additionally, I also believe what Sunday Gardner suggested, that the boat would enable them to get drugs in and out of the Bahamas.

(2) It seems that there were other situations where HKS would have been, or already had been, ordered to produce blood, if not for DNA or custody, then by CPS as someone with contact with the baby in a alleged drug involved home. Once any agency had blood, he’d have had his blood tested for drugs and if postive, he’d have been disbarred and have ceased to be useful to himself or to ANS. Plus if it were the previously mentioned CPS requesting his blood as a household member, well, they’re formidable. His stalling would have been registered as a non-compliant likely positive, b/c the machinery is set up to evaluate druggies who avoid testing all the time, and the social workers would have had a field day with that one.


7,682 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:15 AM PDT by nynjanais
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To: roses of sharon

And co-produced by Anna, God rest her soul, and Daniel, God rest his soul - plus, dedicated to Daniel. Poor kid.


7,683 posted on 04/23/2007 4:58:32 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Pepper777

I sure did have to go back. Check out a post I made in “my comments” section. It was a long winded screed in response to someone’s thread about the high cost of health insurance. I didn’t want to post it here, and tie up the thread.

When I bend over, it sounds like there is water in my upper chest.


7,684 posted on 04/23/2007 5:01:35 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Kimberly GG
Who knows what’s going on in ct.

But his compliments to Stern are gratuitous and planned, imo.

Holed up playing house at Horizens, “uncle” Howard has obviously replaced Anna with little brother, sweet Larry.

It looks like LB will go back to CA with the baby, with Stern soon to follow, where they will work together on Anna’s estate situation, and Stern will remain fully in the baby’s life.

Beautiful!

7,685 posted on 04/23/2007 5:03:15 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

Remember when KE endorsed the “two daddies” scenario for Dannielynn? Please, oh please, Universe, don’t let this weirdo get her way yet again! Pretty please?


7,688 posted on 04/23/2007 5:10:12 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Lizarde

And have some CPA in San Diego be their landlord?


7,689 posted on 04/23/2007 5:11:37 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Yikes, even worse, I wonder how Stern financed this “legacy” for Daniel.

Poor kid, no one ever taught him the value of a dollar.


7,690 posted on 04/23/2007 5:12:11 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Kimberly GG
Yes, he was asked about a "Dr. Christian" by O'Quinn. Then O'Q went on to perpetuate the error by rephrasing the question and asking him: "Do you know a MAN named Christian"

If he meant KE, it was a pretty stupid blunder, as KE had already been all over the ET interviews.

7,691 posted on 04/23/2007 5:13:07 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Lizarde

Maybe a new reality show?

Should bring in some bucks!


7,692 posted on 04/23/2007 5:13:22 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Rte66
I happened to catch that.

If she was weak and had to be helped at 9:30 AND HE WAS IN THE ROOM, how was she able to get to the meds....and get back into bed without anyone noticing her. She had to be whacked out of her mind already.

Why was there junk in the sink? And he brushed his teeth there?? Why did KE leave and when did she make the reservation? When did KE call that same night and the next morning? Why was Anna naked? Why did he even leave and have to post TWO people with her? Why didn't Eric and Brigitte go to the boat with Howard?

There's just too many unanswered questions and they're all related to REAL TIME.

7,693 posted on 04/23/2007 5:13:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: roses of sharon

TrimSpa, baaaybbeeeey!


7,694 posted on 04/23/2007 5:15:27 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Kimberly GG
I have to agree with the part about ANS’s condition...Howie keeps telling us that she was “feeling better” IMO i think once she got in that room it was dnhill. I dont think there was a time when she was “feeling better” before she died. I mean If she was better...then why was she dead a few hours later?!?! I dont understand how qualified people dont see a problem here. I mean her condition and the filthy condition of the room? You think someone would of said...WHAT THE HECK HAPPEN HERE?!?!
7,695 posted on 04/23/2007 5:16:09 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: Rte66
I had forgotten about that! lol

But it could be “4 daddies”, remember the 2 guys who spoke to the media during Anna’s funeral? Her friends, I can’t remember their names.

And KE could play the mommy, nannie, Dr, nurse, shrink, and medicine giver, since she took such great care of Anna!

7,696 posted on 04/23/2007 5:18:30 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Sacajaweau

I have a guess as to why she was naked. IMO I bet they got her in the bed and she was not changed the whole time or for days. Would go with the filthy bed i guess they didnt have time to change.


7,697 posted on 04/23/2007 5:18:40 AM PDT by shywolf
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To: Sacajaweau

“”””I think Larry is probably getting sick of kissing Howard’s a** and really wants to get on his own turf. I do believe Larry will show up at the inquest.
I also believe that after that’s over, BOTH Larry and Virgie will go after Howard hot and heavy....and get the Florida case reopened.””””

I dream the same dreams Saca;)

Raised on the belief that - Good triumphs over Evil.

Keep praying - the DNA won;)


7,698 posted on 04/23/2007 5:19:25 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( from a distance - vultures appear as eagles)
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To: Sacajaweau

I wondered why the servibar was in the guest room, but there wasn’t one in the “main” bedroom of the suite.

Seems like if there is just going to be one little fridge in the suite, it ought to at least be in the main sitting room, for everyone to access it.


7,699 posted on 04/23/2007 5:20:20 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: roses of sharon

With ex-hubby-who-might-be-hubby-now-or-might-not right next door, too! Pol & Patrik & Shelby as other “wacky neighbors. “Let’s put on a reality show!”


7,700 posted on 04/23/2007 5:23:22 AM PDT by Rte66
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