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Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima

Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4


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To: SundayGardener
Posted by lakey to nature On General/Chat 11/02/2007 9:41:18 PM MDT · 2,371 of 2,540 You said that Stern "called for the children." To old-fashioned me, that doesn't necessarily mean he phoned. I haven't read Rita's book and don't intend to. The main thing I want to see is that Daniel's inquest is underway - that Howard and Khris are in the hot-seat. And, I'm waiting to see what former Gov. Brown will do. If there are leaks, take them with a grain of salt - LE makes a habit of putting out erroneous info, and I've seen some freepers come unglued when they find it was all a lie. ___________________________________________________________ You have injected some uncalled for personal remarks which caused Nature to get her back up.

Questioning gets her "back up"? Egad! Kind of thin-skinned. You realize don't you, SG, I could have clicked the Abuse Button for some of the things this person has written to me? I've never done that before, but don't push me.

The first time she got riled was when I told ALL that this forum is financially supported by members, so please donate a few bucks.

I posted to Jim/Rob, "If I have done anything wrong, please tell me." You didn't see any comment from him, did you?

Probably 50 or 100 messages back, I told her, "Please do not respond to this message."

So much for that

2,541 posted on 11/05/2007 8:27:21 PM PST by lakey (Duncan Hunter '08 for President!)
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To: nature
I was unaware an ambassador had been appointed. I've been skimming over the posts lately just trying to keep up as best I could with an overwhelming schedule the past 3 weeks. Was out-of-town for over a week, and when we got home, there has been no slowing down, and I hate to admit it, but I feel my age somedays!

I've never exactly understood what Bush did except I believe he got Ted Olson to argue the case for him, but I don't know why...do you?

Do you not have any confidence in Ned Siegal? I just did a Google search, but didn't learn anything interesting.

2,542 posted on 11/05/2007 10:38:11 PM PST by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne

She isn’t just any woman being wheeled into surgery; it’s the sister of the late Anna Nicole Smith! Donna Hogan’s big sister was one of the world’s most voluptuous beauties, and now with the help of plastic surgery, the resemblance between the look-alike sisters will be even more striking.

Hogan is going under the knife to get breast implants just like Anna’s, and INSIDE EDITION joins the buxom beauty for her trip into the operating room.

Hogan tells INSIDE EDITION that in no way is she trying to be her sister by going under the knife. The implants, she says, are for her. She says she inherited the same small breasts her sister had, and the implants are about wanting “to feel better about myself like (Anna) did.”

At last the day has come, and a scared but excited Hogan is facing her fear of needles and getting the surgery she’s always wanted.

The surgery lasts a full five hours! The operation lasts long enough for Dr. Steven Davis of Cherry Hill, New Jersey, to do liposuction on her hips and thighs, in addition to the insertion of a large pair of breast implants.

Hogan wakes up groggy, but grateful to the surgeon who’s given her a new body. Now, just four weeks after surgery, INSIDE EDITION reveals Donna Hogan’s brand new look. The surgery has transformed Hogan into a voluptuous beauty just like her big sister!

Though Hogan says, “it hurt like hell!” She also says, “It was very, very worth it!”

Is she trying to bring back Anna.....LOL

http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=1036


2,543 posted on 11/05/2007 10:50:16 PM PST by SUN68RAY
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To: SUN68RAY

Back To Reality: Your Next TV Season

The Surreal Death: Exactly like Surreal Life, except has-been B-listers are armed to the teeth with state-of-the-art weaponry. Only one is allowed to leave. Contestants: Michael Richards, Larry Birkhead, Jimmy Fallon, Mel Gibson, and everyone involved with the sitcom Two-and-a-Half Men. Host: Rebecca Gayheart
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/11/as-the-reality-of-the.php


2,544 posted on 11/05/2007 11:29:41 PM PST by SUN68RAY
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To: SUN68RAY

I checked out the pictures, and unless my eyes are worse than the doctor or I thought, she was no “B cup” in the before picture...or that’s the biggest “B” I’ve seen. It looks like she had more done to her face than to her boobs IMO.


2,545 posted on 11/05/2007 11:37:16 PM PST by PeskyOne
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To: PeskyOne

New US Ambassador Arrives
United States Ambassador designate to The Bahamas Ned Siegel arrived in the capital yesterday afternoon, weeks after the U.S. Government confirmed him in that position.
United States Ambassador designate to The Bahamas Ned Siegel arrived in the capital yesterday afternoon, weeks after the U.S. Government confirmed him in that position.

Mr. Siegel arrived at the Million Air airport with his wife Stephanie to take up a position that had been left vacant earlier in the year by his predecessor former Ambassador John D. Rood.

Mr. Siegel is the 12th U.S. Ambassador to The Bahamas after having been confirmed on September 12th.

The former Florida real estate businessman has already vowed a focus on the vices of drug and human trafficking and other areas of critical bilateral concern between The Bahamas and the U.S.

In his prepared statement before the U.S. Senate, Ambassador-designate Siegel affirmed his intention to support Operation Bahamas Turks and Caicos to reduce drug and migrant trafficking through The Bahamas; look after the interests of the millions of American citizens who visit The Bahamas; prevent and respond to terrorism by working with the Government of The Bahamas to strengthen border security and promote prosperity in The Bahamas through expanded trade and investment.

“The Bahamian public is broadly committed to the values that we as Americans hold dear – democratic governance, the rule of law, and respect for human rights,” Mr. Siegel said during his confirmation hearing.

“These shared values provide a firm foundation to build a productive partnership, but it is up to the embassy to ensure that our message is heard and our actions are understood. If confirmed, my embassy team will step up efforts to explain, promote and defend U.S. policies and actions in order to build support for U.S. strategic goals in the region.”

He also pledged a focus on promoting a greater public awareness of HIV/AIDS, encouraging a stronger Bahamian international role on human rights and democracy, and promote improved education.

Mr. Siegel, who described the U.S. relations with The Bahamas as strong and vibrant, has also vowed to work to further improve United States efforts to work with The Bahamians to prevent and respond to terrorism.

“The ties that bind our people and our governments are deeply rooted in family connections, business links, educational experiences, mutual travel and most importantly personal friendships,” Ambassador Siegel said when he arrived in Nassau.

“I look forward to presenting my credentials to the Governor General. I look forward to working with the Government of The Commonwealth of The Bahamas, I look forward to representing my country, and I look forward to further our common interest between our two countries.”

Cruise ships, vacation resorts, passenger jets, and commercial shipping vessels could all become potential terrorist targets if not secured and screened, he said.

Mr. Siegel noted that the Freeport Container Port is one of the largest in the world and one of the closest foreign ports to the United States.

In 2004 the United States signed a Memorandum of Understanding with The Bahamas to include Freeport in the U.S. Megaports Initiative to screen U.S.-bound cargo for radiological materials. In 2006 a Memorandum of Understanding for a Container Security Initiative (CSI) was concluded.

Through CSI, over 90 percent of the cargo moving through Freeport — one of the 25 busiest transshipment ports to the United States — will be screened and suspicious containers will be segregated and searched.

Prior to beginning his career in real estate, Mr. Seigel first began practicing law. He served as a law clerk to Chief Justice Mitchell H. Cohen in the Federal District Court in Camden New Jersey before moving on to join the New Jersey law firm of Kimmelman, Wolff & Samson.

U.S. President George Bush honoured Mr. Siegel in 2003 with a Presidential Appointment to the Board of Directors of the Overseas Private Investment Corporation. In 2006, President Bush appointed Mr. Siegel to serve as a Representative of the United States to the United Nations. The U.S. Ambassador designate is expected to soon present his letters of credence to the Governor General of The Bahamas His Excellence Arthur D. Hanna as is customary.

Mr. Siegel and his wife Stephanie have three children.

http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=14689


2,546 posted on 11/05/2007 11:45:24 PM PST by SUN68RAY
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To: PeskyOne

Well I think your eyes are fine. Had to go look again at the pictures and I swear she really wants to be the next Anna.It started with her hair now her boobs her body guess next will be posing in Playboy. All she needs is a reality show and she will be good to go.


2,547 posted on 11/05/2007 11:53:02 PM PST by SUN68RAY
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To: SUN68RAY

And the selfish liar has all her kids college funds ready.


2,548 posted on 11/05/2007 11:53:41 PM PST by nature
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To: nature

I just don’t get it. How can you meet a person one time then write a book like you knew that person your whole life and then get your body redone and try your best to look like that person. Guess she needs to hire Howard and company and then she will have the complete package.


2,549 posted on 11/06/2007 12:03:34 AM PST by SUN68RAY
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To: Sacajaweau

” ... It was chartered on February 3, 1993. I’ve written a lot about Compagnie Victoire here before. ...”

Note that date was the day “Vickie’s” divorce from Billy Smith was legally final. Howard Marshall didn’t want to put anything like RE or that company in her name until she was no longer “Mrs. Billy Wayne Smith.”

“Vickie” had been throwing fits about the ranch and other things being put in a trust and not in her name (she thought JHMII was ripping her off somehow, lol), so he was doing all he could to “prove” to her that these suspicions were unfounded.

But, at the same time, he had to be sure she wasn’t going to run back to Mexia (fat chance) and just give it all over to Billy - or that Billy wasn’t going to gallop into Houston and take over what would have been his legal community property.

That’s why VickieAnna finally went down to the courthouse and filed for the divorce in April, 1992. After a settlement hearing that Billy didn’t even go to, it was granted the next February and Marshall filed the papers and put up the seed money to start Compagnie Victoire for VickieAnna that same day, February 3, 1993.


2,550 posted on 11/06/2007 12:16:46 AM PST by Rte66
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To: PeskyOne

Oh sorry Pesky, back to the tough schedule huh. I know it is hard to keep up but I see Sun provided it.

Did you miss this link ...

http://hardnewsinc.blogs.com/my_weblog/2007/02/the_anna_nicole.html

Anna Nicole and he used to smoke crack, ........
she would let her son (who was then about 8) play with her boobs in the bathtub.

:(


2,551 posted on 11/06/2007 12:25:52 AM PST by nature
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To: SUN68RAY

Oh, I get it alright! She is a crazy! Has her own drug history.


2,552 posted on 11/06/2007 12:28:42 AM PST by nature
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To: PeskyOne

I can see those B’s with my glasses off.

Her poor kids.


2,553 posted on 11/06/2007 12:30:12 AM PST by nature
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To: PeskyOne

from what i can recall, it was to end the question over whether probate was just a state, or a federal, level, issue. (which i believe is ultimately tied to a fatter take for the IRS)

http://www.law.syr.edu/Pdfs/0May222006_Lawyers_USA_Anna_Nicole.pdf

While the Court made clear that basic will contests will generally remain the purview of state courts, jurisdiction experts say the case opens the door to fresh attempts to steer some probate litigation into federal court.

“The ruling reduces the presumption of finality and exclusive jurisdiction of the state probate courts, creating an opportunity for far greater litigation” in the sometimes contentious world of probate, said Jonathan Turley, a professor at George Washington University in Washington, D.C. who comments frequently about the Supreme Court. “The Court has affirmed that you can create a second front in a probate case by declaring bankruptcy.”

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/01/scotus.smith/index.html

State courts usually decide probate issues involving wills and trusts. Federal courts hear bankruptcy issues.

The so-called “probate exception” normally keeps federal courts from hearing such disputes, but there is no congressional law mandating the hands-off approach.

“The probate exception does not bar federal courts from adjudicating matters outside those confines and otherwise within federal jurisdiction,” wrote Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg for the court.


2,554 posted on 11/06/2007 1:14:37 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

i thnk it’s important to listen to Vicki when she talks about the jewelry - remember this is 2001 and she says, ... all of this jewelry has been stolen from me >>over the past 18 months,<< I suspect by relatives, former bodyguards, former friends, and my son’s former nanny...”

that is telling me, that the jewelry “disappeared” from 1998 on...it would be so easy for howie to blame ‘relatives, former bodyguards, former friends, et al’ to a gullible Anna - his only concern appears to always have been, not the welfare of his only client, but only the marshall fortune. Additionally, kinda hard to fathom why he would pursue such intense litigation over being termed, ‘gay’, but never demonstrated the same intensity over pursuing those who allegedly ‘stole’ millions in cash and diamonds from Anna!


2,555 posted on 11/06/2007 1:23:20 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

right now, iirc, he only has ‘temporary’ custody. imo, as i understand it, the state(county?) CPS will do a parental fitness check on LB, even if he is the natural father. Everything he has said or done can be used against him. I guess howie forgot to tell him that part? maybe somebody wised him up - a little too late if you ask me ;)


2,556 posted on 11/06/2007 1:40:19 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau
What happened in 2001...for the lawyers to write Anna's will...the way they wrote her will?? Had she been talking "babies"? ...

Mar 3rd, '00 - It appears that Anna and VA did keep in touch. *In a letter written to her mother on March 3, 2000, Vickie said, * I want to get pregnant and have another baby before Daniel leaves me.* rita Cosby book, Pg 167

According to Hatten, he and Anna dated from 2000 to 2001/early 2002

http://news.softpedia.com/news/SOFTPEDIA-EXCLUSIVE-Meet-The-Potential-Father-of-Anna-Nicole-Smith-039-s-Child-50281.shtml

In letters sent exclusively to us, Mark says that the love affair he had with Anna Nicole Smith was greatly underestimated in the media at the time of his arrest, mainly because of Howard K. Stern's 'evil plan'. Says Mark: 'I first met Anna Nicole Smith in early January 2000, when my baby sister, Jackie Hatten, put me on the phone with Anna Nicole, for a blind date! Our relationship lasted a little over two years and we had 2 miscarriages in that time period'. He also claims that they planned to marry and start a family but Stern's schemes demolished Anna's confidence and, ultimately, hope ...

Mar 25th, '02 - mark Hatten arrested for assaulting ANS neighbor.

2,557 posted on 11/06/2007 1:53:05 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum
I'm very mouthy this morning: This is only an opinion but

I believe that ANY LEGAL ACTION that Howard took under the guise of "I am the father" and/or husband between the time of DANIEL'S DEATH until the time that Larry via DNA was declared the father

was both fraudulent and unethical

BECAUSE BOTH HOWARD AND ANNA KNEW ABSOLUTELY THAT HOWARD WAS NOT THE BIOLOGICAL FATHER.

Remember, Howard said that "according to his calendar", he was the father...and that means "biological father"...even going so far as pinpointing Larry's encounters. (Remember, Howard NEVER pinpoints his own encounter)

Howard AND ANNA knew that Howard's claim as the biological father was an absolute lie all along and the proof was in the DNA. And then there's approaching whoever it was who had a vasectomy to be the father. Some guys would have jumped at it. He wasn't that stupid. The Horizons could be easily construed as a "gift" if he did. (Clever try Howard).

Upon DANIEL'S death, Howard's legal relation to estate monies ended "in total". Daniel's guardianship and the distribution of the money to him was Howard's charge under the will "and no more" and Daniel was dead.

The phoney wedding and phoney birth certificate were Howard's way of re-establishing a legal connection to Anna and Dannielynn.

I also believe the call of "Larry was a sperm donor" is likely valid....BECAUSE Howard mentions "a calendar". (Every man does that, right?)

Kinda like Howard saying that "Danny said that he couldn't believe he had a blood relative". (Every 20 year old says that, right)...and Billy and Virgie are blood...

I'd say Milstein was "requested" by Howard....and paid by Howard and Milstein is trying to double dip at this time.

I guess I'm trying to put some logic to Howard's footsteps. The big lie that sets the whole thing in motion is "I am the father".

Why didn't Howard and Anna REALLY get married....BEFORE Dannielynn was born instead of 2 weeks after Danny died?

WE know absolutely that Anna and Howard are/were liars....and not just liars...but liars with the intention to harm....hence...the "I hate Mommy" tape. The Kapoor photo. The Gibson photo.

2,558 posted on 11/06/2007 5:01:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

Your opinions are well founded. I agree completely.

HOward was single-minded in his plan to control Anna’s life and loot, but he always had to improvise - because Anna was so mercurial. HOward knew that drugs and isolation were his most effective tools.

When Anna had motherhood fantasies HOward recognized a *blood relative* opportunity, but he had to convince her that the *baby daddies* were *threatening stalkers* in order to eliminate them.

The blueprint is so obvious. Dannielynn’s birth, Daniel’s death, the phony marriage. As you point out - HOward had no legal tentacles to Anna’s body, Dannielyn’s custody or estate supervision.

Virgie held all the legal cards - and Seidlin destroyed her.


2,559 posted on 11/06/2007 5:44:14 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Joy - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle
I think the big secret may turn out to be: A sperm donor agreement saying that Larry has been paid and he will never make any further claim to Anna's money...or Dannielynn. It's finding sufficient evidence that is tricky but never said never.

Scott Peterson bet Laci and the baby would never emerge...God had other plans!!

To Mr. Birkhead: "Never say never".

2,560 posted on 11/06/2007 6:16:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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