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Don’t Call it “Darwinism” [religiously defended as "science" by Godless Darwinists]
springerlink ^ | 16 January 2009 | Eugenie C. Scott and Glenn Branch

Posted on 01/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PST by Coyoteman

We will see and hear the term “Darwinism” a lot during 2009, a year during which scientists, teachers, and others who delight in the accomplishments of modern biology will commemorate the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of Species. But what does “Darwinism” mean? And how is it used? At best, the phrase is ambiguous and misleading about science. At worst, its use echoes a creationist strategy to demonize evolution.

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In summary, then, “Darwinism” is an ambiguous term that impairs communication even about Darwin’s own ideas. It fails to convey the full panoply of modern evolutionary biology accurately, and it fosters the inaccurate perception that the field stagnated for 150 years after Darwin’s day. Moreover, creationists use “Darwinism” to frame evolutionary biology as an ism or ideology, and the public understanding of evolution and science suffers as a result. True, in science, we do not shape our research because of what creationists claim about our subject matter. But when we are in the classroom or otherwise dealing with the public understanding of science, it is entirely appropriate to consider whether what we say may be misunderstood. We cannot expect to change preconceptions if we are not willing to avoid exacerbating them. A first step is eschewing the careless use of “Darwinism.”

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TOPICS: Education; Science
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To: trisham; metmom
It's clear that many of them despise their fellow human beings as well.

As evidenced by the FACT that they are killing human beings at the rate of about a million a week.

621 posted on 01/29/2009 2:32:30 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Eugenics and destruction of Christianity are core principles of Darwinism

I don't recognize this "Darwinism" you keep talking about. I've been reading posts by FR members that other people have labeled "Darwinists" for years, and I've yet to hear anyone call for eugenics or the destruction of Christianity. If you can tell me how to distinguish people who accept the scientific theory of evolution from what you call "Darwinists," maybe I can answer your question.

622 posted on 01/29/2009 2:42:26 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: metmom
Something a belief in nothing that leads to discrimination and intolerance doesn't allow for.

Are you claiming that people shouldn't discriminate or have intolerance for evil behavior? No wonder you seem to be confused.

The Christianity you so scorn is what gave us the government that allows for the freedom that you hold so dear.

I don't scorn Christianity. Do you think Deists and Masons are Christian?

623 posted on 01/29/2009 2:44:55 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: trisham
They do seem to have the classic liberal arrogance and air of superiority about them. It's clear that many of them despise their fellow human beings as well.

Someone who thinks that intolerance and discrimination are justified by their own arbitrary standards, would.

624 posted on 01/29/2009 2:45:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
Absurd.

Tell that to the parents of the heroes who died fighting for our freedom.

625 posted on 01/29/2009 2:46:40 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Do a search for Francis Galton and Leonard Darwin, also do a search on Charles Darwin and Christianity.


626 posted on 01/29/2009 2:50:40 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: metmom

It’s the typical atheist’s ability to make up his morality as it suits him. No one is going to tell him what is right or wrong!


627 posted on 01/29/2009 2:50:45 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: LeGrande

Dying for our freedom IS NOT giving us freedom, it is making possibly to enjoy freedom.


628 posted on 01/29/2009 2:51:40 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Dying for our freedom IS NOT giving us freedom, it is making possibly to enjoy freedom.

I suppose you are right. The idea is to kill the other guy, so that you can live free. Freedom is earned not given.

629 posted on 01/29/2009 3:03:36 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: trisham
Yet they claim religion is responsible for more deaths.

Death: each organism gets one - except for cats.

The only thing that can be changed about DEATH is WHEN it happens.

630 posted on 01/29/2009 3:16:09 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Texas Songwriter

As I noted, that cosmology statemernt is signed by some of the people who run Las Alamos. I’ll tell you something else here: history of science books are not going to be terribly kind to Albert Einstein. Aside from Dayton Miller and the fact that the basic Michelson/Morley experiment appears not to fail when conducted with better equipment and at higher altitudes, there are at least two elephant in livingroom kinds of problems with what Einstein had to say about gravity, one being that gravity propagates instantaneously to within our ability to measure it.


631 posted on 01/29/2009 3:42:30 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: LeGrande; metmom; trisham
Freedom is earned not given.

Well, America's Founding Fathers didn't believe this, but it's a popular phrase with Darwinists.


632 posted on 01/29/2009 3:44:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Texas Songwriter
...the infinite expanse of time prior to that....You might want to read Hawking and Einstein to understand that 'time' did not exist until the universe was created.

Dime did not exist until......

BWWAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAAAAHaaaaahaaaaaaa....

That would mean that there was a day prior to which my little Japanese electronic wristwatch would not work. Forgive me if I have a hard time picturing that, it appears to me to work quite nicely under every imaginable condition.

633 posted on 01/29/2009 3:46:11 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: LeGrande; wagglebee; metmom
You mouth the word freedom, do you have a clue as to what it means?

How ‘bout you tell us? Better yet, why don’t you explain the difference between the word ‘Liberty’ and the word ‘Freedom’ as outlined in Noah Webster’s original 1828 edition of the American Dictionary Of The English Language.

Should you choose to accept this assignment and require a little help finding the original definition, it would be my pleasure to assist. Should you choose to decline this assignment, you will self-destruct in one minute.

634 posted on 01/29/2009 3:51:56 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: wendy1946; varmintman

I’m guessing that in 100 years he’ll be a footnote in history books, while the real scientists will have come to terms with the electrical nature of the universe. Some interesting things at this website:

http://www.holoscience.com/


635 posted on 01/29/2009 3:53:15 PM PST by ToGodBeTheGlory ("Darwinism" is Satanism.)
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To: wagglebee
Freedom is earned not given.

Well, America's Founding Fathers didn't believe this, but it's a popular phrase with Darwinists.

Right. That is why they didn't go to war with Britain. They got their freedom because the king, gave it to them?

Are you a homeschooler by any chance?

636 posted on 01/29/2009 3:53:20 PM PST by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande
Right. That is why they didn't go to war with Britain. They got their freedom because the king, gave it to them?

No, God gave them their freedom, they fought to SECURE a right they ALWAYS HAD.

637 posted on 01/29/2009 4:03:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
o a search for Francis Galton and Leonard Darwin, also do a search on Charles Darwin and Christianity.

Oh, okay, I see. You're taking the most reprehensible views of a couple of people who accepted the theory of evolution and using the term "Darwinism" for them. I could of course do the same thing with "Christianity," but that would be equally pointless. But since, like I said, no one on these threads has ever called for the destruction of Christianity or eugenics, I guess there are no Darwinists around here. Fine. I don't know why you asked me if I subscribed to it, though.

638 posted on 01/29/2009 4:20:55 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: wagglebee
Stalin: 13 MILLION+ deaths.

You do know that Stalin banned the teaching of Darwinian evolution, and sent evolutionary scientists to the gulag, don't you?

639 posted on 01/29/2009 4:23:33 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yes, I am well aware that Stalin considered scientists to be enemies of the state, but he fully embraced eugenics.

But, if it makes you feel better, we can remove Stalin’s name from my list, we still have a minimum of over 960 MILLION deaths in less than a century.


640 posted on 01/29/2009 4:26:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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