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To: metmom; gondramB; Ethan Clive Osgoode; little jeremiah; Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; tpanther

Last night I made the observation that evolution is either true or it isn’t an no amount of debate will ever change that.

However, the more I thought about this, I was struck with another observation. WHY are the Darwinist so emphatic that EVERYONE agree with them? In other fields of science, someone who is not interested in the subject is not generally forced to learn it, but the Darwinists INSIST that everyone accept their claims. Why is this? And the answer is very simple, Darwinism is scientific theory used to push an agenda, to do this it has ignored scientific norms to focus on theoretical philosophy and it is taught like a philosophy with the demands that ALL contradictory beliefs be abandoned.

When you really look at the way Darwinism is approached by its adherents, you will see a radicalism that is far more similar to Marxist or Keynesian economics than to Newtonian physics. The reason for this is quite simple, the Darwinian agenda is not about science, it is about an agenda.


501 posted on 01/29/2009 9:44:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

[[However, the more I thought about this, I was struck with another observation. WHY are the Darwinist so emphatic that EVERYONE agree with them?]]

Because their hypothesis is in deep trouble. Yuo can’t teach a troubled hypothesis without silencing those who bring the facts that refute it. Extreme liberals scream about seperation of church and state, and demand that nothign about God be taught in public because it is a ‘religion’- however, what they really mean is that they be allowed to force their statem mandated religion on us while suppressing the religion that the majority of Americans adere to and support. Marxism? Yes, quite close. Objective science beign taught our kids? Not by a long shot


503 posted on 01/29/2009 9:56:46 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: wagglebee
However, the more I thought about this, I was struck with another observation. WHY are the Darwinist so emphatic that EVERYONE agree with them? In other fields of science, someone who is not interested in the subject is not generally forced to learn it, but the Darwinists INSIST that everyone accept their claims. Why is this? And the answer is very simple, Darwinism is scientific theory used to push an agenda, to do this it has ignored scientific norms to focus on theoretical philosophy and it is taught like a philosophy with the demands that ALL contradictory beliefs be abandoned.

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Interesting. There does appear to be an emotional investment by the Darwinists in the theory of evolution.

506 posted on 01/29/2009 9:59:46 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
However, the more I thought about this, I was struck with another observation. WHY are the Darwinist so emphatic that EVERYONE agree with them? In other fields of science, someone who is not interested in the subject is not generally forced to learn it, but the Darwinists INSIST that everyone accept their claims.

That's a good question and I have often wondered about it as well. What's it to them if we do or don't believe what they say about dead monkeys in the ground and amoeba-to-human transformations? I mean, it's really up to them to argue convincingly for whatever it is that we are supposed to accept from them as true. Why to they rage when aren't successful at making a convert? They seem to have an attitude that we owe them unquestioning intellectual assent for anything they say. Even the slightest skepticism of their often specious and purile arguments invokes flaming wrath and brings to the surface some remarkable anti-God, anti-soul and anti-Christian sentiments. There's clearly something not normal about that.

When you really look at the way Darwinism is approached by its adherents, you will see a radicalism that is far more similar to Marxist or Keynesian economics than to Newtonian physics.

Speaking of John Maynard Keynes, he belonged to the Eugenics Society and also the Cambridge Eugenics Society. His nephew W.M. Keynes married Charles Darwin's grand-daughter. W.M Keynes was also a member of the Eugenics Society. John Maynard Keynes's mother belonged to a eugenical society. J.M. Keynes was gay too.

805 posted on 01/30/2009 6:14:48 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: wagglebee; metmom
When you really look at the way Darwinism is approached by its adherents, you will see a radicalism that is far more similar to Marxist or Keynesian economics than to Newtonian physics. The reason for this is quite simple, the Darwinian agenda is not about science, it is about an agenda.

It's a Marxist attack on evangelical Christians, the ones who oppose them fearlessly and frustrate them and their agenda the most. They come here, or used to, to attack and marginalize believers and it was a big game to them before Mr. R sent them packing. They never had the courage to attack Judaism for the same scriptures. They are cowards

913 posted on 01/30/2009 4:13:54 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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