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Did I get the story wrong - 2 pirates and a hostage in a dinghy with no engine and...
email | 4/9/09 | American Dream 246

Posted on 04/09/2009 2:05:48 PM PDT by American Dream 246

Please excuse my accent.

Is that just me or did I get the story wrong? How many war ships do you need and FBI terrorist experts do you need to take over a dead in the water dinghy, 2 pirates and a hostage? OK I realize that the pirates could shoot the hostage.

Ar we going to send salves or shoot the dinghy with a canon? Sorry..I have a hard time not to laugh with that image but seriously...Or send the whole army, planes etc.. to fly around that dinghy? Or negotiate with these morons, knowing that they have no word anyway?

What about sending 2 good divers under the dinghy, pick the butt of the pirates, turn over the dinghy and get the hostage? I sailed for 12 years in dangerous waters...the whole story, I mean since they are in the dinghy, makes me really scratch my head.

Any other suggestions which could help our guys solve that problem? I am a bit lost here.

Again, I am certainly missing something important like - does that incident involves Russia or Iran or nukes or something?

Seems that it is just me..


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To: American Dream 246

Put a sniper in an OH-58 about 1200 meters away at night. A .50BMG round through each pirate’s torso and then send in the RIBs full of SEALS. Problem solved.

Or should we just sit down to tea and try to use diplomacy?


21 posted on 04/09/2009 2:21:31 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (I'd rather be eating sushi off Nicole Scherzinger's nekkid body.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
So, who's the pirates and who's the captain?
And who's the other two in the dinghy?
22 posted on 04/09/2009 2:23:16 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: JamesP81
I don’t get it either. Seems like two snipers on the destroyer could solve the pirate problem.

Silly, we might hurt someone... Obama can't have that.

23 posted on 04/09/2009 2:24:39 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: American Dream 246

Glen Beck is talking about that.

Why the hell does the Navy have to call in the FBI hostage negotiator to do their job?

Ooops. Never mind. It is the PC Navy now. I just forgot.


24 posted on 04/09/2009 2:24:48 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: a fool in paradise

The FBI has zero authority. The USCG has legal jurisdiction in international water world wide on US flag vessels and vessels where the US has received a letter of no objection.

Piracy is classified a crime against humanity, however, and as such all nations have legal jurisdiction to prosecute. As such, those pirates are dead meat in any country that deems it necessary to kill those bastards.

Flying the US flag on your vessel buys you squat any more. Being a MUSLIM pirate? Priceless.


25 posted on 04/09/2009 2:25:02 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: a fool in paradise
What authority does the FBI hold in international waters off the coast of Somalia?

I'm no expert, but since it's international waters, I would think there is no "authority" except for maritime laws.

Since the pirates are well, pirates (outside the maritime laws) does it really matter how they die???

26 posted on 04/09/2009 2:25:04 PM PDT by Popman (One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three is a Congress - John Adams)
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To: faloi; mnehring

I’m sure the Captain’s poor wife is amused.

This country is going from most hated to mostly pathetic real fast.


27 posted on 04/09/2009 2:26:39 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: American Dream 246
How naive.
Dems are in charge.
What size boat do the pirates want?
Can our apology be in English?
How much money can the raft hold, or will they take a check?
A US destroyer verses 3 schmos in a raft. Our leaders are unmanned.
28 posted on 04/09/2009 2:30:07 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: wolfcreek

I certainly did not mean to make fun of the family and I fully understand how the Captain’s family must feel right now. I was simply pointing out, and they certainly are thinking the same way we are, the stupidity of the situation.


29 posted on 04/09/2009 2:32:44 PM PDT by American Dream 246
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To: American Dream 246

Right off the top the lifeboat is anything but a dinghy. As I understand it’s an enclosed boat that can carry something like 30 passengers. Being enclosed it’s unlikely that they can see the captain or the terrorists let alone get a shot.


30 posted on 04/09/2009 2:32:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: American Dream 246
The French have sent in some reinforcements
31 posted on 04/09/2009 2:35:02 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: American Dream 246

No harm, no foul. Expect a lot of things coming from the Obama admin to be *different*.


32 posted on 04/09/2009 2:36:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: a fool in paradise

More than the pirates

:-)


33 posted on 04/09/2009 2:36:47 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: American Dream 246

I suppose that the FBI is there to arrest the crew members of the hijacked ship for fighting back. What else would you expect from an American hating metrosexual muslim POTUS?


34 posted on 04/09/2009 2:38:38 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I'm thinking it is not authority to negotiate, but the negotiating skills in a hostage situation that these folks are looking for. Does the CIA have this type of personnel? I don't know.

Otherwise, it makes sense to me that -- if there are only 2 pirates -- that you get a couple of snipers and count to 3. Cruise on over and pick up the captain. Sink the dingy. Guess that's why I'm not in charge.

35 posted on 04/09/2009 2:39:37 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JamesP81
Seems like two snipers on the destroyer could solve the pirate problem.

It might have something to do with the fact that the 'life' boat is covered and they can't see what is happening.

I want obama to fail in his agenda, but I sure don't want the hostage killed because of my hate for obama.

36 posted on 04/09/2009 2:41:27 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

At Waco, they gave up trying to negotiate and decided to make a suicidal man crack instead. Think they’ll try to get the pirates to go for “suicide by cop” here?


37 posted on 04/09/2009 2:41:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: American Dream 246
Whatever the reasons are that this isn't yet resolved it looks BAD. We look weak being held hostage by a bunch of skinny a$$ Somolians.
I just don't have faith in Obama handling this like a Leader.
38 posted on 04/09/2009 2:43:08 PM PDT by wndycndy (WE ALL MUST FIGHT TO RETAIN OUR RIGHTS AGAINST LIBERAL IDEOLOGY)
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To: Krodg

I thought that the captain goes down with his ship? Surrender to pirates and board their vessel as a hostage?


39 posted on 04/09/2009 2:43:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

>>>I’m thinking it is not authority to negotiate, but the negotiating skills in a hostage situation that these folks are looking for.

I think you are right. This would be similar to a case where a US embassy is bombed and we send FBI agents to investigate. They have these skills that other federal agencies do not.


40 posted on 04/09/2009 2:45:50 PM PDT by NC28203
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