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Go to the link and check out the Nordyke twins birth certificates.
1 posted on 07/28/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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2 posted on 07/28/2009 2:02:18 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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3 posted on 07/28/2009 2:04:13 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Smokeyblue
Link here now with single clickety goodness;

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+officials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s+original+birth+certificate+still+exists

5 posted on 07/28/2009 2:05:21 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Jeff Head; Nachum; Polarik

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6 posted on 07/28/2009 2:05:29 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: Smokeyblue
"Security Breach May Lead To Obama Natural Born Status
A series of 2008 security breaches at the US State Department may indicate that someone knows Barack Obama’s true status as a natural born citizen - and is waiting for the right time to reveal it. The breaches, which occurred on January 9, February 21 and March 14 of 2008, were done by two “low level” contractors and another in a mid-level position with no management role.
... An investigation of the incidents revealed that all three major presidential candidates - Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain - had their passport files compromised.
... News of the security breaches prompted a statement from then-Senator Joseph Biden, who had not yet been chosen as Obama’s running mate. Biden, who was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had oversight of the Foreign Service and the passport office.

“I am deeply troubled that State Department contract employees sought access to Sen. Barack Obama’s passport files,” the statement from Biden read. “Firing or disciplining those responsible is an important first step. But we need to understand why these employees had access to this information in the first place, why they sought the information, and why it took over two months for this matter to come to light. I urge the Secretary of State to promptly refer this matter to the State Department Inspector General for investigation.”
... On April 5, 2008, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Passport Services Ann Barrett resigned from her post after a credit card scheme using US passport date was uncovered by the security probe. State Department Spokesman Tom Casey told The Washington Times that 24-year-old Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. told federal authorities he obtained “passport information from a co-conspirator who works for the U.S. Department of State.”

From The Washington Times report:
The investigation began after Metropolitan Police on March 25 pulled over Mr. Harris in Southeast on suspicion that the windows of his vehicle were tinted too darkly.
After searching Mr. Harris and his vehicle, police found marijuana and 21 credit cards that were not issued in his name or the name of a female passenger with him. Police also found eight printouts of State Department passport applications, and four of the names on the applications matched four of the credit cards.
Upon questioning by agents from the U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Postal Service and State Department, Mr. Harris “admitted he obtained the passport information” from a State Department employee, court documents say.

Mr. Harris also said the fraud ring submitted credit-card applications using the names and “identifying information” of the persons listed on the passport applications, and that a postal service employee then would intercept the cards before they were delivered to the appropriate residences.
Then, on April 17, 2008, Lt. Harris was found fatally shot dead slumped over the steering wheel of his car in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast DC."


Key Witness in Presidential Passport Tampering Case Murdered in 2008, No Arrests
On April 8, 2008, Obama confessed to having taken a trip to Pakistan in 1981. Here is what Obama said - Jake Tapper was there:
"So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."
... Much speculation has been made about what national passport Obama used when he traveled to Pakistan in 1981.
So Obama confessed to this trip two weeks after his passport was tampered with.


.... A key witness in a federal probe into passport information stolen from the State Department was fatally shot in front of a District church, the Metropolitan Police Department said yesterday. Lt. Quarles Harris Jr., 24, who had been cooperating with a federal investigators, was found late Thursday night slumped dead inside a car, in front of the Judah House Praise Baptist Church in Northeast, said Cmdr. Michael Anzallo, head of the department's Criminal Investigations Division.
Cmdr. Anzallo said a police officer was patrolling the neighborhood when gunshots were heard, then Lt. Harris was found dead inside the vehicle, which investigators would describe only as a blue car."


"Mysterious Dead Person Connected To 2008 Elections
The Washington Times reported April 5 that contractors for the State Department had improperly accessed passport information
for presidential candidates Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, which resulted in a series of firings that reached into the agency's top ranks."



8 posted on 07/28/2009 2:10:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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>THIS MEANS HE DEFINITELY WAS NOT BORN AT KAPIOLANI, because his BC number (born on Aug 4th and filed with Registrar Aug 8th) should have a lower number than the twins (Born Aug 5th at Kapiolani and filed with Registrar Aug 11th)<

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The Registrar made a convenient, careless but unintentional error when he assigned the numbers. Wassamatter with you suspicious individuals? Anybody can make a mistake. Let’s put this matter to rest.


9 posted on 07/28/2009 2:10:55 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: Smokeyblue
This story has legs and wont die. So called "birthers" are like Rotweilers and will not release their grip until a "treat" in the form of a long form Birth Certificate is displayed.

I am laughing my a$$ off at the left trying to kill this story.

10 posted on 07/28/2009 2:12:02 PM PDT by frogjerk (It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible - George Washington)
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>>> Obama’s (finally published) birth certificate serial number is 151 1961 - 010641

They published his long form birth certificate???

when do we get to see it?


11 posted on 07/28/2009 2:12:23 PM PDT by Safrguns
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Great find !!! FReepers as always on the CUTTING EDGE.
13 posted on 07/28/2009 2:13:16 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Smokeyblue
Alright, this vein is particulary weak.

Somebody may have filed the paperwork later in one case, or the lady at the desk just grabbed the certificates randomly from the folder.

Somebody doing laid back baby paperwork in Hawaii in the early sixties would have no idea this was going to be part of some presidential internet investigation almost fifty years later.

In the big picture, this tidbit is meaningless.

14 posted on 07/28/2009 2:13:37 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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We know the list of births in Hawaii that week of August 1961. It would be good to get the certificate sequence number from all of them — that may require subpoena power.

The killer would be if Obama’s certificate duplicates a another one.


16 posted on 07/28/2009 2:14:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Smokeyblue

This, my FRiends, is why the big O wants to shut down the internet. Keep up the good work.

I am so proud of all of you.


17 posted on 07/28/2009 2:14:45 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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20 posted on 07/28/2009 2:19:37 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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Who assigns the certificate number? If the registrar processed all three on 8/11/61 and assigned the number then, I could see how it was possible that they just were processed in the order stacked in the in box. However if the hospital assigns it this could be something.

If anything this might give more evidence to a birth in Hawaii if he has a number near ones known to be assigned at the right time, as opposed to getting something in the next month's batch.

21 posted on 07/28/2009 2:19:48 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Interesting. Thanks. BTTT!


22 posted on 07/28/2009 2:20:05 PM PDT by PGalt
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Honestly, I think he was born in HI but the father is listed as unknown, OR, the original BC was changed because of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro, and no one can get at it because that is how adoptions are done. The old BC is usually changed and unavailable, or is destroyed, even.

Either way, though, when that came out, if it ever does play out that way, the natural born citizen issue would become secondary because of the massive fraud......

That is likely why they reconstructed an abstract of the original BC. It might have the original true information, but if there was an adoption, and that original was changed, then it just cannot be produced—the father would show as Lolo Soetoro now, even if he was born BO, Jr.


24 posted on 07/28/2009 2:24:35 PM PDT by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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It could just be the sequence with which the birth info came in for recording. Some hospitals might not get them in right away, some parents are not ready with a name right away, so it holds it up for a couple. I am not sure this serial number question is important.


26 posted on 07/28/2009 2:26:08 PM PDT by NEMDF
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Obama's certificate number is later than the Nordyke twins even though he born a day earlier.

Thanks, Rushmore Rocks.

27 posted on 07/28/2009 2:26:28 PM PDT by LucyT
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BIRTHER CROC: You are not getting your hand back until I see the long form Birth Certificate

29 posted on 07/28/2009 2:29:09 PM PDT by frogjerk (It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible - George Washington)
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To: Smokeyblue

While I am a birther, I think this is a non-argument in fact it is damaging to my belief. The last paper form put on the stack of paper would be the first birth certificate put in the system / i.e. numbered.

Actually, the fact that the numbers are so close is somewhat damning to our argument. The number that is on the factcheck “certification of live birth” seems like it is a legitimate number since it is so close to the twins bc number. It also implies that Barry’s BC was filed on or around august 4, 1961 his so called date of birth and not filed much later when mom got back from Kenya. I think this is damning to our birther argument.


39 posted on 07/28/2009 2:48:42 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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