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To: Squantos
This is the .357SiG ammo that cost me $250 per 500 four days ago.

Now it's $300 per 500, but $500 per thousand. I suspect they realized they underpriced it, so they want you to buy the bigger quantity to get the "old" price. They're probably surprised that people are buying it up. Still a good price, and probably the best deal for the long run.

And I still hear people bitching about the $40 H&K magazines that are now $95 dollars. They still demand the $6 magazines they heard about from somebody else, since they've never bought any up until now. I think those $6 mags date back to the days of nickel beer and a free lunch.

The One and his toadies may be upset that so many people went out and bought these weapons after they were warned not to. But at least the new owners are self-limiting the practicality of these otherwise fine defensive tools by holding their breaths until they get the prices they want. Free enterprise and stupidity is a dangerous combination, as the government has already shown. But these people are showing that our overlords aren't the only ones suffering from this cognitive dissonance.

I'm angry that $22 magazines from a few months ago are now $45. But better a higher price than none at all. I have no intention, and no use, of obtaining more than 5-6 of each magazine type.

I'm also hearing of some buyer's remorse setting in. Some items are coming back to the store as consignment sales as "used, never fired". It's starting to dawn on people that basic skills, and a reserve of supplies for readiness, requires almost as much investment in support items as the original weapon cost. Especially if you decide to get some decent optics, which is the one thing that will add to effective fire in a stressful environment.

Much as I wish it were otherwise, I know that a good handgun, and decent skills on my part, is 99% more likely to save my ass compared to my beloved rifles, which can't always go everywhere I do. I've only gone to the "suburban carbine" to cover the less-likely scenario of the 25-300 meter battlefield, because that's what it would be. But zero to 25 meters is by far the most likely.

Never let yourself be outgunned, especially at the most likely, and deadly, range out to 25 meters.

3,981 posted on 02/23/2013 4:01:33 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: 300winmag

Well that is same frangable design we use for 12 ga breecher loads from ALS.... Copper / tin ..... Works well for contact shots in training on steel targets also.

That stuff used to be LEO sales only .... Good find. Not sure what the terminal effects are but it is hell on hardware you need to remove fast when applied with a 12 ga.

May want to look around before ya waste that stuff because I think it’s coming off the market....

Stay safe ...


3,982 posted on 02/23/2013 9:21:40 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: 300winmag

Well that is same frangable design we use for 12 ga breecher loads from ALS.... Copper / tin ..... Works well for contact shots in training on steel targets also.

That stuff used to be LEO sales only .... Good find. Not sure what the terminal effects are but it is hell on hardware you need to remove fast when applied with a 12 ga.

May want to look around before ya waste that stuff because I think it’s coming off the market....

Stay safe ...


3,983 posted on 02/23/2013 9:22:34 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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