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Prizefight week of October 22 Microsoft Windows 7 vs. Apple Snow Leopard
CNet Reviews ^ | 10/22/2009 | Josh Lowensohn, Rafe Needleman, and Seth Rosenblatt

Posted on 10/22/2009 10:20:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker

The contenders: Microsoft Windows 7 vs. Apple Snow Leopard

Microsoft Windows 7 (Professional)



Apple Mac OS X Snow Leopard

It's not often that the two most popular operating systems get major updates so close to each other, so we couldn't resist throwing them into a cage match together. Already we can hear some of you screaming that Snow Leopard isn't a major update--we know this one's personal! But is Windows 7 nothing more than "Vista done right"?

Microsoft's severe stumble with Vista aside, Windows 7 clearly positions the operating system for the future, with a new look that integrates heavily with the new features. Snow Leopard, too, is geared toward the future, saving you space on your hard drive and including some useful new tricks that Microsoft still lacks.

The judges for this Prizefight hardly shy away from telling you what they think about software, webware, and the operating systems you need to get to all those goodies. Now, everybody's got their opinion on the great Apple versus Microsoft debate, but for a few minutes, suspend your disbelief as they explain which operating system is better and why.

(Excerpt) Read more at reviews.cnet.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys; osxsnowleopard; windows7
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To: CheneyChick

If I were out there in weather like that with my feet in the water and only a cat’s fur for a coat, I’d be all snarly, too!


21 posted on 10/23/2009 7:58:06 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: montag813
We use Maya on PC with various render engines, Modo and 3dsMax for strutural modeling (cityscape flybys, etc). Also Houdini and RealFlow (liquids). I am also an AfterEffects guy and always have been. Maximum control of every concievable detail. We use Edius Pro for edits and Fusion for post.

Not blaming you or the effects, but Surrogates still sucked! :-D

22 posted on 10/23/2009 8:03:46 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Tribune7
The big problems with Windows have been malware — maybe 7 has finally fixed it...

Good luck with that posit.

23 posted on 10/23/2009 8:06:20 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: HAL9000
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24 posted on 10/23/2009 8:07:45 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Defiant

Mind sharing how you are running Leopard and W7 on one machine? Is it a Mac, or have you done magic to get Leopard running on a PC?\

I would VERY much like to have Leopard to run, but not at the expense of buying a Mac.


25 posted on 10/23/2009 8:23:43 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: CheneyChick

What a magnificent animal. I have a new desktop now. Thanks.


26 posted on 10/23/2009 8:27:48 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Cheney/Palin 2012!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Glad you liked it. I started doing some searching and found me a new desktop too — I chose this big kitty for now:

http://www.fantom-xp.com/en_20__Big_cats_-_Snow_Leopard.html


27 posted on 10/23/2009 9:48:34 AM PDT by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: montag813
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Pixar used custom Linux worstations running their insanely awesome Marionette with Renderman software to create Wall-E. Not Macs.

Pixar switched to Macs in 2004.

28 posted on 10/23/2009 9:52:15 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: Tribune7
The big problems with Windows have been malware -- maybe 7 has finally fixed it and if so good for them

According to today's security alerts, Windows 7 has bugs in COM, cryptoAPI, LSASS, and of course in IE. Some other vulnerabilities in the announcement don't affect windows 7, but there's enough that do to prove they haven't learned how to write bug-free software yet.

29 posted on 10/23/2009 9:59:08 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: 6SJ7
Pixar switched to Macs in 2004.

That is way old news. Pixar uses Macs and older Silicon Graphics workstations for texture map creation (Photoshop like everyone else), basic grunt modeling, etc. But the high end modeling, animation, inverse kinematics and RenderMan rendering you see on screen is all done on custom Linux workstations running Pixar's Marionette software.

30 posted on 10/23/2009 10:02:09 AM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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To: ReignOfError

I run highly graphic software in Parallels and have never had a problem so I have no idea what you are talking about? INHO it runs faster on my MacBook Pro than it did on the Dell before it died.


31 posted on 10/23/2009 10:06:08 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: montag813

LOL!

True that there are PC programs that don’t have a Mac equivilent, but choosing 3D and video tools as your example has got to be seriously lame considering that the Mac has been the choice of professional artist types for decades.


32 posted on 10/23/2009 10:24:18 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Big Giant Head; Defiant

I’d also like to know how he got an AMD quad core Mac, since they are intel only machines.


33 posted on 10/23/2009 10:28:21 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: vox_freedom
Good luck with that posit.

Luck? I trust it like I trust MSFT (or should that be MFST, you know "mother ... technology")

I use a Mac. :-)

34 posted on 10/23/2009 10:47:17 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: montag813
Who cares how good Snow Leopard is? What about the two dozen critical programs I use for 3D, animation and video which aren’t even available for OS/X?

That's you. And if you need Windows for your specific programs, that's a valid reason to go with Windows. But then a shop doing professional video editing with Final Cut Pro HD will be saying the same thing about Windows not having the applications they use.

And don’t say “Boot camp” because that is useless for performance-level requirements.

Boot Camp isn't a virtual machine. There is no performance hit as it runs natively as it would on any other machine. Boot Camp is just an automated process with drivers to set up Windows on a Mac, plus some stuff to help it operate with EFI instead of BIOS.

35 posted on 10/23/2009 10:51:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: montag813
For the most part none of the major 3d films are done on either Macs OR PCs.

Pixar is making their movies on Macs. They are, after all, UNIX just like the old Sun systems they used to use. Last I heard the rendering was on Linux.

Also, boot camp is NOT 100% PC with greater performance.

Hardware-wise, a Mac is a PC, the difference between it and most others being that it uses the more advanced EFI instead of the 80s BIOS. Since EFI is extendable and programmable, Apple built BIOS compatibility into EFI so that Windows can run on it.

36 posted on 10/23/2009 11:04:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: palmer; All

Could the real test of operating systems be decided this way?

What if Apple released Snow Leopard for the PC. How many PC users would instantly switch, so they could have the security?


37 posted on 10/23/2009 11:12:40 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: montag813
Macs will never be price/performance competitive.

Speaking purely on hardware specs, the high-end workstations are about the only place Macs are cheaper than PCs.

38 posted on 10/23/2009 11:21:54 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: jacquej

I think Snow Leopard already runs on PC’s with some minor alterations like open firmware. There are also lots of things that PC users can do to improve their security. Microsoft doesn’t make it easy to get completely secure, but it’s not hard to install a more secure browser, avoid adobe, etc. It’s less easy to avoid Office, but possible. With effort a microsoft system could be as secure as a mac.


39 posted on 10/23/2009 11:24:24 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Big Giant Head
Go here and here

My setup uses a legally purchased version of Mac OSX Leopard.

40 posted on 10/23/2009 1:22:22 PM PDT by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
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