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The most pretentious science fiction - fantasy TV shows
November 2, 2009

Posted on 11/02/2009 3:09:41 PM PST by EveningStar

Here are my selections for the most pretentious science fiction - fantasy TV shows (RELAX - THE CYNICISM IS ALL IN FUN!):

5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997 - 2003) - Pretty much a chick series.

4. V (original - including miniseries' - 1983 - 1985) - Nazi lizard people invade the earth.

3. Alien Nation (1989 - 1990) - A message series with one message - racism is evil. We get it. Next. (amazingly enough, this series spawned five made for TV movies, which were viewed by all 500 of its fans)

2. Beauty and the Beast (1987 - 1990) - Nauseatingly sappy

1. Babylon 5 (1993 - 1998) - Yeah, I know that "true science fiction fans" like this series because J. Michael Straczynski is a fan of literary SF - and named a Psi Cop "Alfred Bester." Big deal.

I never saw the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica, but from what I've read about it, it definitely would have made my list.

OK. Those are my picks. How about yours?


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: fantasy; pretentious; sciencefiction; scifi; sf
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To: KarlInOhio

There was also a short-lived series called Earth II.

IIRC, it closed its season with a cliffhanger and then got cancelled. So, the characters are still hanging on that cliff.


21 posted on 11/02/2009 3:23:48 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Viking2002
it had a series consultant and occasional guest star by the name of Mr. Harlan Ellison. Care to name a more pretentious sci-fi writer alive today?

Careful. He might track you down and club you with his walker.

22 posted on 11/02/2009 3:24:12 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: EveningStar
Earth II and Seaquest DSV on NBC.

El stinko.

23 posted on 11/02/2009 3:24:18 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Kartographer
Babble-on 5

Chuckle...

24 posted on 11/02/2009 3:24:47 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Syntyr
Are you watching SGU? I am but seem to be having a hard time getting in to it. It’s kind of like the new BSG was for me. Hard to get in to at first

I watched the first 3 episodes. Just couldn't get interested in it -- not the plot, not the body jumping, not the time jumping, not characters.

At least Sanctuary does have some action and things occasionally get blown up.
25 posted on 11/02/2009 3:26:39 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: EveningStar

How was Beauty and the Beast sci-f? People throw that name around a bit too carelessly.


26 posted on 11/02/2009 3:27:40 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: EveningStar

3. Red Dwarf

2. Mork and Mindy

1. Futurama


27 posted on 11/02/2009 3:29:39 PM PST by oldleft
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To: ThomasThomas

Beauty and the Beast wasn’t what I would call Sci-Fi. It was Fantasy. It was sappy but enjoyable until they started running out of storylines.


28 posted on 11/02/2009 3:30:01 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Tublecane

It was fantasy. The topic includes science fiction AND fantasy.


29 posted on 11/02/2009 3:30:41 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Tublecane
How was Beauty and the Beast sci-f?

Because Roy Dotrice was in the cast. Heck, he's been in everything sci-fi since Space:1999.

30 posted on 11/02/2009 3:32:32 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Viking2002

Harlan Ellison is an a-hole.


31 posted on 11/02/2009 3:33:28 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I remember the actor who portrayed the ‘lion man’ in the Beauty and the Beast series remarking that theirs was not exactly an equitable relationship because he was to retreat to and live in a sewer quietly until she needed him for something, at which point she would summon him by banging on drainage pipes. He would spring forth to serve her...and then retreat to the sewer again.
Also, a TV reviewer noted the series was two years old by saying “It’s been two years and it doesn’t look like their relationship is going anywhere....isn’t it time that she start dating other beasts?”


32 posted on 11/02/2009 3:34:00 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: TomGuy

I liked that show. Hate it when they disappear shows. It seems all the ones I like go away (Brimstone, Dresden Files to name a couple).


33 posted on 11/02/2009 3:35:14 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: EveningStar
I know you're looking for TV, but Silent Running has to get a mention here.

70's era environmentalism. Ugh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Running

34 posted on 11/02/2009 3:35:17 PM PST by delapaz
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To: TomGuy
IIRC, it closed its season with a cliffhanger and then got cancelled. So, the characters are still hanging on that cliff.

Same with this summer's "Defying Gravity."

35 posted on 11/02/2009 3:36:39 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: EveningStar

Buffy rocked. It wasn’t pretentious. It never took itself too seriously. They referred to themselves as the Scooby Gang whenever they were trying to solve some mystery.


36 posted on 11/02/2009 3:37:16 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: EveningStar

The Outer Limits. The new and old versions. Most were awful, some pretty good. But all of them were preachy, preachy and preachy.


37 posted on 11/02/2009 3:38:36 PM PST by LiberConservative ("Sarah Palin irritates all the right people." -Dennis Miller)
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To: delapaz
I know you're looking for TV, but Silent Running has to get a mention here. 70's era environmentalism. Ugh.

A product of its times and politics. Just like 2004's "The Day After Tomorrow."

38 posted on 11/02/2009 3:38:46 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Brett66

Agreed. We’re all peace and reason, we don’t do any of that ‘cowboy’ stuff Kirk did...of course, we also, quite regularly, come extremely close to getting our butts kicked during battles. We also have a really bad habit of having the ship taken over by others. DS-9 wasn’t quite as bad in this regard. I should also point out that your three nominees had no sense of humor.


39 posted on 11/02/2009 3:38:56 PM PST by McGarrett (Book'em Danno)
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To: EveningStar

Easily the most ridiculous, sappy and pretentious sci-fi/fantasy show out there today is Smallville. It is the most pathetically incompetent, neutered, and feminized incarnation of Superman, ever. Clark Kent spends at least 50% of his screen time looking woeful and lamenting his feelings, and a full three-quarters of his superhero efforts result in his monstrously stupid rear end being saved by one of his many girl friends, all of whom are indestructible ninjas, who must drag Clark YET AGAIN away from the glowing green “meteor rock” that Clark runs into face-first with alarming regularity. Meanwhile, we discover that Clark Kent is also the only learning disabled Kryptonian, ever, who has to take flying lessons from his own (female) cousin and STILL can’t get off the ground. To top it off, whenever Clark gets into a really big jam, the first thing he does is run to a crystal recording of his daddy. Truly pathetic.


40 posted on 11/02/2009 3:41:52 PM PST by fr_freak
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