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Motorist sues city, seeks $7 million over traffic ticket (Greensboro, NC)
Greensboro News and Record ^ | 4/20/10 | Ryan Seals

Posted on 04/20/2010 10:24:06 AM PDT by wbill

GREENSBORO — A man is suing the city for $7 million, claiming a police officer trespassed and violated his rights by writing him a traffic ticket in March.

In a civil lawsuit filed Friday in federal court, Tornello Fontaine Pierce El-Bey, 43 — who says he is a member of the Washitaw Empire — accuses the police department and Officer B.J. Nida of causing him financial distress and violating his rights.

He also accuses the city of copyright infringement for using his name on the ticket.

As a member of the Washitaw de Dugdahmoundyah Muur’s Indigenous People, El-Bey claims he is protected by the U.S. and state constitutions and the United Nations’ Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous People.

According to the Washitaw Empire’s Web site, the Louisiana-based group considers itself to be the world’s oldest sovereign and independent nation.

The traffic stop happened about 11 a.m. March 9 on Summit Avenue. Nida pulled over a Volvo with tags that expired in December 2008, according to court records.

In the lawsuit, El-Bey says he told Nida he was not a U.S. citizen and gave the officer a diplomat/right to travel identification card when asked for his license. El-Bey says he tried to explain to the officer “that I am not operating/driving a vehicle nor am I in commerce doing business nor am I a U.S. citizen.”

Nida, according to the suit, replied: “Yes, you are sir, and take it up in court.” El-Bey was ticketed for driving without an operator’s license and having an expired registration tag.

El-Bey claims the officer went beyond his duties and hindered El-Bey’s liberties, causing him to be late for a meeting and caused him “great finance distress.”

El-Bey didn’t return a telephone call Monday. City Attorney Terry Wood said he hadn’t been served with the lawsuit and declined to comment.

The Washitaw Empire is led by a long bloodline of “empresses,” and according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, has 200 hard-core members and thousands of other followers.

A law center report says the group has been the subject of several criminal investigations of money laundering, offshore banking fraud, sales of illegal license plates and other practices derived from anti-government ideology.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aliens; citizen; excuses; victimhood
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You know, I just didn't know what to say, here. Figured that some wiser FReepers would have an appropriate comment.
1 posted on 04/20/2010 10:24:07 AM PDT by wbill
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sorry, i am at a loss for words also....other than he will probably win and collect the 7 mil...


2 posted on 04/20/2010 10:27:16 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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I love it. :) Actually it is stupid but it causes cops to ban tickets I am all for it. lol. Ok that is a bit much but I am sick of police thinking they are Gods. I have not received a ticket for over 15 years but the three I received really pissed me off.....STILL!!!


3 posted on 04/20/2010 10:30:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: wbill
Good Scam

Gotta try that...

4 posted on 04/20/2010 10:31:41 AM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: wbill
There's still time to register for the Washitaw Empire 2010 Pow Wow.
5 posted on 04/20/2010 10:36:53 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: napscoordinator

knock on wood, haven’t had a ticket since i was 16 in the states...for speeding...(broken speedometer)....

the actual last ticket was on guam at 11pm on a dark deserted road heading for the base...i went thru a yellow and low and behold i had to motorcycle cops come out of nowwhere....when he said he was giving me a ticket for running a red light i told him no sir the light was yellow and he said nope it was red....

i went to pay the ticket and asked about fighting it and the lady told me i was just better off paying it as the judge would more than likely find me guilty and impose a heftier fine on me.....


6 posted on 04/20/2010 10:37:24 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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sounds like the Volusia County traffic kangaroo court...


7 posted on 04/20/2010 10:40:32 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
Call me crazy, but I think that I'd sort of stand out at one of their get togethers.

"You ain't frum round heah, are yew?"

8 posted on 04/20/2010 10:40:48 AM PDT by wbill
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Figured that some wiser FReepers

I have a good idea what a "wise latina" would say...

9 posted on 04/20/2010 10:42:05 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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All righty, let's at least look at this:

1. "I am not operating/driving a vehicle..."
Oh really? Even if you were conducting its progress with telepathy, that's still 'driving a vehicle' by the legal definitions of the laws of the United States and the state of North Carolina - which you're... uh, 'visiting'.

2. "...nor am I in commerce doing business..."
Not doing business, but you were late for a meeting. I'm gonna bet $1 (a currency you no doubt won't recognize) that it was a business meeting of some ilk.

Nice try, dude. Pay up. One thing the government does actually do reasonably well is to maintain a decent highway system. Either provide your part or else you'll be hosted in the finest county system we can find.

10 posted on 04/20/2010 10:43:05 AM PDT by alancarp (Please don't tell Obama what comes after "trillion")
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To: stefanbatory

oh i am familar with them also.....live in holly hill....you...??


11 posted on 04/20/2010 10:45:22 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: wbill

Anti-government thoughts! Destroy him! - Transform America.


12 posted on 04/20/2010 10:49:02 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: wbill; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; humblegunner; sit-rep; Squantos; Eaker

Officer Nida, B.J. Ping


13 posted on 04/20/2010 10:58:01 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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“...Tornello Fontaine Pierce El-Bey, — who says he is a member of the Washitaw Empire...”

Greetings Earthlings! The great and benevolent Empire has sent me on this mission of Peace to rid your planet of the scourge of traffic tickets!


14 posted on 04/20/2010 11:02:30 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded, my brains fell out.)
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The United States District Court Judge will be happy to explain Trial Rule 11 to Mr. El-Bey.
15 posted on 04/20/2010 11:02:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: tatsinfla

in the county, but address is Daytona...


16 posted on 04/20/2010 11:03:00 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: wbill

great, now the cops will have to write out MORE tickets to cover this lawsuit


17 posted on 04/20/2010 11:04:40 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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Why is he suing in Federal court? Wouldn't the legal system of the Washitaw Empire be have jurisdiction and be responsible for enforcing any judgment? :-) They ought lock up people who file such frivolous lawsuits, for fraud.
18 posted on 04/20/2010 11:08:30 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Larry Lucido
His attorney, Mike Hunt, was asked for a comment by Navy correspondant Seaman Stains.

Military Liason Major Woody advised the attorney not to comment until the transcriptionist, Private Parts, was present.

19 posted on 04/20/2010 11:13:04 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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I'm in favor of his collecting the entire 7 million.... in Washitaw Empire currency.

Here you are sir, 4 magic beans and a mess of Polk Salad.

20 posted on 04/20/2010 11:14:51 AM PDT by DeFault User
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