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Mother Tracks Down Kidnapped Kids Using Facebook
consumerist ^ | June 6, 2010 | Chris Morran

Posted on 06/06/2010 11:02:24 AM PDT by JoeProBono

While the rest of you were busy asking friends to join your gang in MafiaWars or doing whatever it is you're supposed to do in Farmville, a mother in California was busy using Facebook for a good reason -- to track down her two children who had been kidnapped 15 years earlier.

According to the Deputy District Attorney in San Berardnio, CA, the father of the two children -- one boy and one girl -- had gone missing with the children in 1995 when the kids were just 2 and 3 years old.

"The mother got on to Facebook and typed in one of the children’s names and hit a Facebook page," said the prosecutor.

Lo and behold, the girl she'd found was indeed her daughter. The two began communicating via Facebook, with the mom even sending an old photo of the family from before the kidnapping. And then suddenly, says the Deputy D.A., it all came to an end: "The teenager said, 'Not interested in a relationship. We just have a happy life. Leave us alone,'" and her daughter's Facebook page disappeared from the site.

Even so, the mom was able to convince the local authorities to investigate. Ultimately, they tracked down the missing children and their father to Orlando, where daddy dearest was arrested and charged with two counts of kidnapping, and two counts of violating child custody orders.

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To: Pikachu_Dad

Oh, grow up.


21 posted on 06/06/2010 12:20:26 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: JoeProBono

As lousy as a mother may be to her child, the child wants to be with the mother, every time. I am adopted and many of the underlying issues I have are due to anger and depression from being taken away from my birth mother.

This is a mess for sure, fueled by selfishness on the part of both of the parents—the dad for taking the daughter away from the mother and the mom for maybe not being the best mother she could have been.

Simplify your lives, parents, and love your children in every way you know how. The hard work and sacrifices now pay large dividends in the future. I guarantee it. And so does He.


22 posted on 06/06/2010 12:21:17 PM PDT by Joy in the Journey (For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. I Corinthians 14:33)
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To: JoeProBono

These news stories are like ink blots. It’s easy to spot those who are sure it’s the woman’s fault. LOL


23 posted on 06/06/2010 12:24:55 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Venturer

What an asshole you are. A man deprives his one time wife of her children and you think he was justified? Can the word Puke describe you better than any other?


24 posted on 06/06/2010 12:29:24 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Paved Paradise

>>> I also know that most sexual abuse is by males.

That is UTTER RUBBISH.

>>> Statistical realities such as these

are based on bias against men.

>>> should not be inferred on the minimal information given.

and I did not go there, YOU DID.

>>> I know all about father bias, but you are making a huge stretch.

it doesn’t sound like you know the first think about ‘father bias’ or you would not be making such idiotic comments.


25 posted on 06/06/2010 12:33:25 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: calex59

>>> What an asshole you are. A man deprives his one time wife of her children and you think he was justified? Can the word Puke describe you better than any other?

WOMEN do it all the time. The only difference is that most of the time they do it with the bias and blessing of the outrageously corrupt family courts.


26 posted on 06/06/2010 12:35:29 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

You are blinded by your own agenda. I know that dads have been ripped off by courts blind to the fact that there are very bad women who abuse, neglect, and yes, even sexually abuse their own children. However, the statistics are overwhelming. One cannot dismiss the most obvious and you are doing that.

Here’s a link. http://www.csom.org/pubs/female_sex_offenders_brief.pdf


27 posted on 06/06/2010 12:59:50 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Try to calm down and look at the facts. Your emotions are getting in the way.


28 posted on 06/06/2010 1:00:43 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: ladyjane

Good one, Ladyjane.


29 posted on 06/06/2010 1:01:13 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: republicangel
Your right, we don't know the whole story, but as I said, know several men that got screwed over in family court, false accusations of child abuse, sexual abuse, drug use etc, cause for most courts the woman never lies....yea right a woman never lies. Like in the Duke case, girls are always angels....some drunken mothers don't deserve the custody of the children....this guy may have been screwed over or may have deserved no visitation, not enough info to know the total story....but have heard of many cases of men getting screwed, pay child support and the money goes to the new boyfriend not the kids.

There are male freepers than can attest to this...

30 posted on 06/06/2010 1:05:11 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: mamelukesabre
To all: Most of you (especially those men who've been deprived of a quality relationship with their own children by both the mothers but also the courts and even the women who were given custody or even shared custody, only to see the men skip out, leaving them without an income and their kids with no father around), are reading your own personal "story" into this situation.

Let me share with you, a true story: my brother and I were taken by my father for a "car ride" when I was barely 3 and my brother was about 18 months. We were taken to another state and left with my father's sister and her husband, for a time (I actually don't know how long as I was so very young.)

Later on, presumably with the with and consent of my father, we were taken to a Catholic orphanage and left (this time for 3 years) to either live until we were grown or were adopted out to other families.

I do remember my father visiting one time and as he brought me a toy rabbit pulling a cart with eggs, I presume it to be around Easter.

Sundays were for "visiting couples" desiring to adopt babies and young children, but mostly babies. I knew that my brother, still being a baby, would most likely be adopted out. As we lived on separate floors, me in the "girl's section," and he on another floor with the "babies," I would gather him up and take him to the playground area to "play" far away from those "visitors."

I would tell anyone and everyone that we, "weren't for adoption as we had parents who wanted us and were coming back for us."

After some time, my mother enlisted the aid (and finances) of her aunt and a cousin, who went looking for us.

Upon locating us, my mother proceeded to file whatever was necessary to get us returned to her but first, there needed to be a court hearing to determine "what was best for the children."

I still remember today being coached by my father but mostly his sister, to say that we "did NOT wish to live with our mother" (I didn't even remember her and certainly my brother did NOT), that we "wished to stay with our father" (though we didn't live with him but were in an orphanage living apart.

End result was that our mother was granted "conditional custody" with the help of her elderly aunt to oversee our welfare (mom had no job and no way to support us so the court was looking to our mother's aunt for financial assistance.)

End of this long story as I don't wish to expand beyond this is to state my father died in an accident while driving drunk within the year and my mother remarried but always had a difficult time understanding how and why I "would deny her or even remember who she is."

Stealing children from their mother in their infancy or childhood, unless and only if their lives or physical well-being is at stake, never, ever takes into account how it will impact the children.

It is a selfish act, putting the desires of the adult first usually to "punish" the spouse (never taking into consideration and probably not even caring to) never to consider the needs of the babies and/or young children.

31 posted on 06/06/2010 1:11:55 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Joy in the Journey
I will pray for you and your life today as I know something of which you speak. There are no winners in situations like this and many others, the genuine "victims" here (not MOM, not DAD) are always the children.

The "stealing" parent care nothing for those children and only for their selfish interests (witness Solomon and the "two mothers" and his declaring to "split the baby in half." The "false parent" was content to do just that while the "real parent" wished to spare the baby and to give it to the other "mother.")

You may read my own story below.

32 posted on 06/06/2010 1:20:48 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Sorry but having been in a similar situation myself, the girl didn't remember her mother at all and might have been told that her mother "deserted her and/or didn't want her."

The only family she now knows is the one she is living with.

33 posted on 06/06/2010 1:23:40 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I have something to tell you. I have an ex-husband who hasn’t seen our daughter in years. We don’t even know where he is. At the time we got divorced in 2005, I hadn’t seen him in 4 years. I went for custody due to abandonment and he was awarded joint custody, supposed to visit her every month for a year to establish a relationship. That lasted for 4 months and then he disappeared. You would think someone in the military is easy to find but if that person doesn’t want to be found, even the military won’t help. He hasn’t seen her in years. On July 9, she will be 13. She will not have had a birthday card from him in 3 years. He knows where we are, I had an Army chaplain forward the information to him years ago and that is all he would do. E-mails sent to him asking him if he’s going to call her on her birthday don’t get kicked back but they don’t get answered either. She is an award-winning honor student. Am I a failure or a bad mother? Hell no! My life is twice as hard as a single parent and I have a son whose dad died in 1997 when he was 3. No dad for either of them but we are happy. Nevertheless, every year I place a letter in the file of the last court we were in to update them on where we are, what we are doing and the last time I heard from him. This way, he can’t say he doesn’t know anything. He can hire his old lawyer to look in the file. I am not and never have kept her from him. His family never contacts us. She has a Facebook page but never gets his from him or anyone in his family. They never even look for her. It has hurt her over the years. First the abandonment when we were still married and now this. It is in no way my fault, I have taken the responsibility of my kids alone and would never do it any other way. My daughters father doesn’t even answer the e-mails that I am in failing health with a bad heart for years now. Still I work full-time to provide most of the time going to work ill.

I pass no judgement on the mother. Her daughter was too young to develop the disdain for her mother she has now. She has zero frame of reference. That means the father has badmouthed the mother. You don’t need any more “proof” than that. How about you looking at the fact that the kids suffered shock and trauma from the abrupt separation? Didn’t think about that, did you smartypants?

So much for corruption in the family courts all biased against men.


34 posted on 06/06/2010 1:26:47 PM PDT by atruelady
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To: zerosix

I read your story...

I’m so sorry that happened to you...

I was trying to point out that the mother did not have to be a bad mother for the “father” to steal the children away for years...

I was married to a man who didnt want our children but also didnt want me to have them..

He was mentally sick and didnt know what he wanted...

His desires changed as soon as they were granted etc...

He seldom if ever put the best interests of the children first...

I was extremely lucky what happened to you did not happen to my children...

He attempted through the courts to get full custody of them...

he nearly got it to...

However somehow he accidently let it slip that his intentions were to take our children many states away and leave them with his mother and “get on with his life alone” and so called “deservedly”...

The judge put the brakes on that little game because

1. If he got them I wouldnt have visitation...

2. The children were not to leave the state during the proceedings...

3. I had 2 prayer warrior friends out in the waiting room praying down Heaven into the situation because I was expecting some kind of treachery...

God doesnt like adults playing loose and fast with their childrens lives...


35 posted on 06/06/2010 1:38:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: calex59

You are very judgemental. You dont know the why of the story any more than I do , but you judge me.


36 posted on 06/06/2010 1:39:48 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Paved Paradise

here’s the deal.

women are evil, and government is evil. when the two get to gether and conspire against men, the outcome is surely evil. They didnt’ coin the phrase “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” for no reason.

The kids and the dad were screwed from the get go.


37 posted on 06/06/2010 1:41:09 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: republicangel

Was he selfish? Or was he screwed by the court system?

How many women have we seen run off with their kids and they have a support system of other women to help them do it.

Like I said I need more information. From what I read the kids have beenhappy , He doesnt seem to have been a bad father. I need more input before I condemn him.


38 posted on 06/06/2010 1:42:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Tennessee Nana

whatever you say. sounds like you are a typical man hating dyke. not surprising your religious views I’ve seen lately. In fact, i’d say you don’t even have any true religious views, but only man hating views that spill over into religious topics.


39 posted on 06/06/2010 1:43:42 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Tennessee Nana
Of course the mother/mothers need not be bad, neglectful, etc. for fathers to remove their children, nor do all the fathers desire to punish their spouse and use the children to do so.

My comment was that the children always lose in the tug-of-war between their parents - even in the best of times.

40 posted on 06/06/2010 1:44:03 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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