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8 Historic Symbols That Mean The Opposite of What You Think
Cracked.com ^ | July 02, 2010 | Philip Moon

Posted on 07/02/2010 12:05:55 PM PDT by RightCenter

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Excellent article! Really sticks it to devil-worshippers and Che cultists!
1 posted on 07/02/2010 12:05:59 PM PDT by RightCenter
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To: RightCenter

bump later.


2 posted on 07/02/2010 12:16:01 PM PDT by mel
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To: RightCenter

Bump.


3 posted on 07/02/2010 12:20:03 PM PDT by Mere Survival (Mere Survival: The new American Dream)
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To: RightCenter
"Create a national fund, out of which there shall be paid to every person, when arrived at the age of twenty-one years, the sum of fifteen pounds sterling, as a compensation in part, for the loss of his or her natural inheritance, by the introduction of the system of landed property." Thomas Paine,

Wow, that;s good.

4 posted on 07/02/2010 12:27:02 PM PDT by trumandogz
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Yeah, I didn’t know that about Thomas Paine either...dang near sounds like a Marxist.


5 posted on 07/02/2010 12:28:49 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: RightCenter

interesting, but a little off the mark at least where Texas is concerned.

Don’t Mess With Texas - it was indeed selected as a slogan against littering. But what makes it a powerful slogan is it plays to the broad concept at already exists, which is Texas has a State Identity that is very strong, whereas, most other states have lost the concept somewhere after 1913.

The Alamo - please, the author needs to do more studying and stop thinking he is the smartest guy in the room - he is not. Like most rebellions, there were many causes. Texas was very sparsely populated and following Mexico’s independence from Spain, immigration into Texas from the US into basically unoccupied land lead to the majority of people have US culture and expectations. There were issues with Spanish and US racism, cultural issues, economic issues as well as governance issues. Yes slavery was one of many issues. But this author is not being accurate by pulling out one issue from 50 and trying to make his point.


6 posted on 07/02/2010 12:36:34 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Don’t Mess With Texas

Personally, I think Texas lost that right, now it's ...

Don't Mess with Arizona as far as I'm concerned.
7 posted on 07/02/2010 12:40:07 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: RightCenter

Some interesting information here but I don’t understand why the Crazy Horse monument is on this list. The author believes that carving the mountain was a bad idea and quotes Russell Means as evidence that all native Americans feel this way. I don’t believe that is correct. Either way, the monument doesn’t mean the opposite of what people think it does because everyone knows that it was created to counter Mount Rushmore and give Indians a source of pride.


8 posted on 07/02/2010 12:41:46 PM PDT by faq
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To: RightCenter
Pretty good debunking of contemporary cultural myths but his use of the phrase "...He saddles up to the bar..." is clankingly ignorant. The proper word is sidle.
9 posted on 07/02/2010 12:43:58 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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IMHO what Paine was probably talking about was the “landed” aristocracy, IOW, not pro-Marxist and anti-capitalist, but instead anti-aristocrat. So that part of this author’s criticism is misleading.


10 posted on 07/02/2010 12:44:57 PM PDT by Gothmog (I fight for Xev)
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To: RightCenter

Yeah, and apparently someone from Texas peed in his coffee.


11 posted on 07/02/2010 12:52:06 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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People who say "Remember the Alamo" conveniently neglect to remember that a considerable factor in the Texas Revolution was that dastardly Mexico decided to outlaw slavery, and that didn't wash well with the American slave-owning population...

All of Mexico was in upheaval over the abolition of the 1824 constitution. Some factions wanted federalism, others wanted dictatorship.

The revolt wasn't just about slavery, and Texas wasn't the only province in revolt. More than anything else, Texas wanted separate statehood from Coahuila, and a new constitution based on the old one from 1824.

12 posted on 07/02/2010 12:53:03 PM PDT by Spirochete (Just say NO to RINOs)
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IIRC, Thomas Paine is one of the Founding Fathers that liberals most admire.


13 posted on 07/02/2010 12:55:08 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: faq

Might be more appropriate as Europeans misunderstanding Indian culture and religion.


14 posted on 07/02/2010 12:55:59 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Gothmog
IMHO what Paine was probably talking about was the “landed” aristocracy, IOW, not pro-Marxist and anti-capitalist, but instead anti-aristocrat. So that part of this author’s criticism is misleading.

Indeed correct Paine was advocating redress from Grievances from England. Not a mode of law to be imposed by the citizens of an independent country on itself. I think the Author needs to re-read Common sense in its entiorety and just pull out selected quotes.

15 posted on 07/02/2010 1:01:45 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: RightCenter
I think he misses the point on the Alamo. The Texians were concerned about property rights, but the property they were most concerned with was land, rather than slaves. While the Anglo Texians were unhappy with the prohibition of slavery, they were willing to live wit it.

The central government of Mexico rescinded the lands granted to those who moved to Texas from the United States, intending to turf these folks off without compensating them for the improvements made.

Additionally the central government rescinded most rights of self-government in the state of Texas & Cohila, including trial by jury and the right to select local officials (including mayors). This led the Tejanos to make common cause with the Anglos. About one-eighth of the Alamo garrison were Tejano, as was one of the officers in the garrison (Juan Seguin — who was dispatched to carry a call for help prior to the final day of the siege), as were a company of the Texian Army at the San Jacinto.

Incidentally, the Texas War of Independence was the second of five revolts against the central government of Mexico, and the only one that succeeded in gaining independence for a Mexican state.

16 posted on 07/02/2010 1:02:04 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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What many don't realize is that, rather than some unfulfilled land/mule redistribution program ...

Heh heh heh... I just like that part. Land/mule redistribution program... ;D

17 posted on 07/02/2010 1:03:06 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Probably the Texan that sidled up to him at the bar. If that was me, I would have peed in his coffee too. Just sayin’.


18 posted on 07/02/2010 1:05:39 PM PDT by TexasPatriot1 (Legalize the Constitution)
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To: RatsDawg
It does explain why Teddy Roosevelt called Paine a "filthy little pamphleteer". Paine also gleefully cheered on the Terror while living in France.
19 posted on 07/02/2010 1:07:38 PM PDT by katana (For what is an Irishman ? But a .......)
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To: Gothmog

Paine called for the French Revolutionaries to invade England.


20 posted on 07/02/2010 1:08:35 PM PDT by C19fan
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