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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
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Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

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To: Quix
will do and thank you...
1,521 posted on 01/09/2011 8:03:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

All;

Here’s the latest update on our own FREEPER WEBBOT JOCKEY’S EFFORTS with his own software:

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Civil War II remains pegged. I’m surprised we aren’t already in the midst of trench warfare.

Additionally, all other indicators remain pegged.

Something has fundamentally changed about the Gestalt of the English-speaking, Net-connected sub-conscious over the last 60 days.

It’s like being in a linguistic white-out in Antarctica.
I can’t see any changes.

We’ve got:

—a killer-quake series,
—nuclear terror,
—insanity wave,
—bio-collapse,
—space weirdness,
—the Asian/stripe/ship/attack, everything.

It’s like an entire crate of tightly-wound springs that can’t get wound any tighter, but haven’t exploded yet.

Frustrating.

Cheers,

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Wellllllllll, Bro,. I don’t know that my own impressions currently mean anything, or not.

1. There’s some report of some ‘big’ dramas sometime in January 2011.

2. Could well be. Yet, my own FEELING is . . . that things will lope along with fits and starts and exceptions but somewhat ‘normally’ for another year or more.

3. I don’t know if that could be—because the ruling globalist oligarchy wants to wait until just before whatever 2012 calamities are purportedly looming before unleashing unholy hell on the world themselves . . . perhaps to wait and see if or how many mortals are left to see how much dirty work they would then still need to do.

or if

4. The prayers of believers are hampering the oligarchy’s rush to shove the globe to hell in a handbasket.

or if

5. They are merely dinking with things here and there setting the stage every more precariously for system collapse . . . expecting, waiting for complexities to light their own fires in ways that are harder to trace than if they are more overtly directive.

or if

6. God, for His own reasons is retarding their rush to hell while God gets His Church more on line and actively, proactively, aggressively doing great exploits against satan’s kindom and in behalf of God’s Kingdom?

or if

7. God wants them to have some more rope with which to tighten HIS noose around their scrawny necks in a more dramatic fashion for all Creation to observe.

or if

????


1,522 posted on 01/09/2011 9:11:11 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for posting #1488 through # 1490, It’s the type of
stuff I like digging into.


1,523 posted on 01/09/2011 9:29:11 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: The Cajun

Am blessed, honored and humbled by your kind words.

Would love to read of your insights, comments and questions from any such.

God’s best to you this week.


1,524 posted on 01/09/2011 9:39:10 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


1,525 posted on 01/09/2011 9:45:39 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix

It’s still hard for me to get myself to accept that there are alien beings out there, so I am always skeptical about claims like those made by the author. Yet, ever since I saw an unidentified object myself, which I have already spoken about on this forum, I have been interested in the subject. I just read “Witness to Roswell” earlier in the month, which explained to me why THIS incident caused the masses to beleive UFOs are real & why the story won’t go away.

Then I saw this book by Stan Romanek, in which he claims to have the most documentation to his incidents of any abductee, as well as witnesses, and I began to read it. I was surprised to find it was he who filmed the grey in the window, as I had seen that in the news awhile back.

He has a very low understanding of math, although a higher than average IQ, and had problems in school due to dyslexia. I wonder if he was ‘chosen’ because his brain functions differently than most. Perhaps that makes him a better subject somehow to accept & relay their message?


1,526 posted on 01/10/2011 8:57:58 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

Certainly plausible. He does seem to have been very carefully chosen.

And, evidently he is also a hybrid . . . or at least has some ‘other’ DNA, IF their claims are accurate.


1,527 posted on 01/10/2011 10:16:02 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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Gleanings from various . . . incl ATS:

FROM:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc839.htm

PARTIAL ARTICLE BELOW. Remainder at the link above.

Heretic Among Heretics: Jacques Vallee Interview

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Summary: In-depth interview with leading UFO researcher, Jacques Vallee.


PART 1

Jacques Vallee hesitated before agreeing to be interviewed about the subject for which he's most famous: UFOs. It's not that he's reluctant to discuss the topic, or tussle with the skeptics. After all, he's written close to a dozen books on UFOs, several of them best-sellers, analyzing a notoriously ethereal subject as a hard-headed physical scientist, folklorist, and sociologist. He believes there is more than enough solid evidence to make a compelling case for the existence of UFOs, and he doesn't shy away from an honest debate.

It's the hard-core believers who give Vallee pause. Anyone who has observed the semi-academic cockpit known as "UFOlogy" knows that close encounters of the UFO expert kind shed little light and much heat, dogma and territorial sniping. Vallee's views about UFOs are far more exotic and far stranger than what he calls the reigning "nuts and bolts" approach to the subject. Consequently, he's been attacked by believers so often that he jokingly refers to himself a "heretic among heretics." As Vallee puts it, "I will be disappointed if UFOs turn out to be nothing more than spaceships."

In his recent autobiographical book, Forbidden Science, Vallee summed up his views about the provenance of UFOs, a viewpoint that he's developed through decades of research: "The UFO Phenomenon exists. It has been with us throughout history. It is physical in nature and it remains unexplained in terms of contemporary science. It represents a level of consciousness that we have not yet recognized, and which is able to manipulate dimensions beyond time and space as we understand them." So much for anti-gravity-powered starships ferrying Big Brothers from outer space. Vallee thinks UFOs are likely "windows" to other dimensions manipulated by intelligent, often mischievous, always enigmatic beings we have yet to understand. (60 Greatest Conspiracies of All Time covers Vallee's theories in detail.)

No other UFO researcher has contributed more to an admittedly controversial field. But Vallee commands a measure of respect that must leave his colleagues feeling a bit envious. Even Philip Klass, the avionics expert and the media's favorite UFO-debunker, calls Vallee "one of the more distinguished members of the pro-UFO community." Vallee, he adds, "is one of the brighter physical scientists who believes in UFOs."

Vallee moved to America from his native France in the early 1960s, as young astronomer-turned-computer scientist. Vallee pioneered the use of computers to analyze and categorize the UFO phenomenon, and his 1965 book, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, is still considered one of the most scholarly books on UFOs ever written. At Northwestern University, Vallee assisted Prof. J. Allen Hynek, the academic consultant on the Air Force's infamous Project Bluebook, now seen by most saucer students as either a half-hearted government effort to address the UFO craze of the 1950s and 1960s or a full-blown coverup. While working with Hynek, Vallee and his wife, Janine, compiled the first-ever computer database of UFO sightings.

In 1969, Vallee published another groundbreaking book, Passport to Magonia, in which he collected a body of folkloric "myths" that read remarkably like modern UFO encounters, from Celtic tales of fairyland abductions to Biblical passages and medieval chronicles of "visitors" from beyond. Building on Carl Jung's thesis that UFOs are a sociological phenomenon, a product of the collective unconscious, Vallee forever left behind the space-bound E.T. theorists. But his folklorist's approach to the problem would influence a number of later researchers and writers who continue to echo his ideas about other-dimensional forms of consciousness. Best-selling author Whitley Strieber, Harvard "abductee psychologist" John Mack, and journalist Keith Thompson (author of Angels and Aliens all owe a debt to Vallee. Stephen Spielberg paid homage to Vallee in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, basing his French scientist character (played by Francois Truffaut) on the real French UFO theorist.

We recently had lunch with Vallee in San Francisco at restaurant around the corner from the offices of his high-technology venture capital firm. Part 1 of that interview covers Vallee's theories about UFOs and his belief that science can penetrate mystery of flying disks and alien beings. In Part 2, which we'll publish later this month, Vallee discusses the second sphere of his researches: The connection between the UFO phenomenon and the religious impulse. Vallee believes that the intelligence guiding UFOs is a kind of control mechanism, an invisible hand shaping the development of human consciousness over a period of eons. In the second installment he also talks about the theory that from time to time governments have manipulated public opinion through UFO mythology--in some instances constructing elaborate hoaxes for propagandistic purposes.
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60GCAT: Why are Americans obsessed with the idea that outer space aliens are the pilots of UFOs?

Vallee: I think Americans, if they are interested in the subject, are very literal. They want to kick the tires, which is a good American thing to do. They want to do reverse engineering on the propulsion system. And when I tell them, "Look, maybe those things don't have a propulsion system," you get a strange reaction. Just like, if you remember, in Close Encounters, the Truffaut character keeps going around saying this is a sociological phenomenon, not just physical. And he has a lot of trouble getting that idea across.

60GCAT: At one point you subscribed to the theory that UFOs might be extraterrestrial in origin. . . .

Vallee: When I met Stephen Spielberg, I argued with him that the subject was even more interesting if it wasn't extraterrestrials. If it was real, physical, but not ET. So he said, "You're probably right, but that's not what the public is expecting--this is Hollywood and I want to give people something that's close to what they expect." Which is fair.

60GCAT: So what do we know for sure about the nature of UFOs?

Vallee: There is a phenomenon. We don't know where it comes from. It's characterized by its physical [traces]. Eighty percent of all the cases have trivial explanations. But I'm talking about the core phenomena. It seems to involve a lot of energy in a small space; it seems to involve pulsed microwaves, among other things. There isn't much that is known about the effect of pulsed microwaves on the brain, so it's quite possible that some of the stories that you get from people are essentially induced hallucinations in sincere witnesses--the witnesses are not lying. They really have been exposed to something genuine but there is no way to go back to what that thing was, based on their description, because their brain has been affected by proximity to that energy.

Having said that, I have plenty of colleagues in science and technology I respect who tell me this could be a natural phenomenon--this could be an undiscovered form of energy in the atmosphere. We don't know much about the effect of electromagnetic fields on the nervous system. We're going to be discovering that as we go. So, it's quite possible that there could be a phenomenon like that, a very spontaneous thing. Or it could be artificial. If it's artificial it could come from another form of consciousness, which may or may not be extraterrestrial. It's a big universe out there. Who are we to say where it comes from? We can only speculate on that point.

60GCAT: How can we use our own comparatively backward technology to investigate this mystery?

Vallee: Where I think that technology can be of help is in looking for patterns. And I did as much of that as anybody else. I built, with my wife, the first computer database of UFO sightings. But where I think computers could be used much better is in applying artificial intelligence, reason, and inference to eliminating the reports that have natural causes. I developed a software prototype of that, which was called OVNIBASE, which I turned over to the French CNES; presumably they are developing a next version of it, and running it on their database.

60GCAT: What about other technologies that can help us analyze evidence better than we could, say, 10 years ago?

Vallee: Digital enhancement of photographs is very useful. In my book, Confrontations, I mention the photograph that I brought back from Costa Rica, which was unusual because the object was over a lake [Lago de Cote], so there was a uniform black background. Everything is known about the aircraft that took the photo. At the time the picture was taken [in 1971], nobody on the plane had seen the object. It was only after the film was developed that the object was discovered. The camera used was exceptional: It produced a very large negative--ten inches, very detailed. You can see cows in the field. The time is known; the latitude, longitude and attitude of the aircraft is known. So we spent a lot of time analyzing that photograph, without being able to find any obvious natural answer to the object. It seems to be a very large, solid thing.

I obtained the negative from the government of Costa Rica--if you don't have the negative, analysis is a waste of time. I also obtained the negative of the picture taken before and the picture after, all uncut. I took negatives to a friend of mine in France who works for a firm that digitally analyzes satellite photographs. They digitized the entire thing, and then analyzed it to the extent that they could, and could not find an explanation for the object.

60GCAT: It's hard for Americans to grasp the idea that UFOs might be a manifestation the other-dimensional. . . .

Vallee: You have to keep an open mind. What I try to do is what any cop would do: I try to listen to the witnesses instead of printing my own theories. Theories are a dime a dozen. They don't do any good. It's much more useful, I think, just to listen to what people are telling you, and I've been trying to do that not just in the U.S., but also in Europe and other places I've visited, like Brazil and Argentina, and try to look for patterns.

60GCAT: You're a bit of a controversial figure among UFO researchers, mainly because you entertain theories more exotic than the UFOs-are-from-outer-space paradigm.

Vallee: I've antagonized a number of the believers in UFOs. Number one, because I'm not ready to jump to any conclusion that it's necessarily extraterrestrial--we're not smart enough to know what they are at this point. And the research has not been done. I certainly remember enough of my training in astronomy to tell you that the universe is big enough to have other forms of life than us; at least we hope that it does. But so far we cannot prove it. So we cannot see how they would come here--they probably would be much advanced with respect to our physics, and they would have found a way to do it. But that does not explain UFOs.

I've also antagonized a lot of people because I think that the way abductions are being handled is wrong. It's not only wrong scientifically, it's wrong morally and ethically. I've been telling people, don't let anyone hypnotize you if you've seen a strange light in the sky. I think a lot of those people prominent in the press and in the National Enquirer and in the talk shows and so on are creating abductees under hypnosis. They are hypnotizing everybody who's ever had a strange experience and telling them they are abductees by suggestion. And they are doing that in good faith. They don't realize what they are doing. But to my way of thinking, that's unethical.

60GCAT: What do you think of John Mack, the Harvard psychologist who believes that alien abductions are a real phenomenon? Of course, he uses hypnosis on his patients to liberate "repressed memories" of those abductions.

Vallee: I respect him for his courage in addressing the issue, but I don't agree with his methods.

I've taken some witnesses who wanted to be hypnotized, taken them to specialists in two cases out of maybe 70 cases of abductions that I've studied. And usually the specialists tell me that hypnosis is not necessarily the best way of helping these people. Nor is it the best way to recover memories. It may help in very specific cases. But I've never hypnotized anybody--I'm not qualified to do it.

60GCAT: How did you first become interested in UFOs and paranormal phenomena?

Vallee: I started out wanting to do astronomy and I ruined essentially a perfectly good career in science by becoming interested in computers. This was in France in the early days of computing and the earliest days of satellites and space exploration. So I took some of the earliest computer courses at French universities.

My first job was at Paris observatory, tracking satellites. And we started tracking objects that were not satellites, were fairly elusive, and so we decided that we would pay attention to those objects even though they were not on the schedule of normal satellites. And one night we got eleven data points on one of these objects--it was very bright. It was also retrograde. This was at a time when there was no rocket powerful enough to launch a retrograde satellite, a satellite that goes around opposite to the rotation of the earth, where you obviously need to overcome the earth's gravity going the other direction. You have to reach escape velocity in the direction opposite the rotation of the earth, which takes a lot more energy than the direct direction. And the man in charge of the project confiscated the tape and erased it the next morning.

So that's really what got me interested. Because up to then I thought, Scientists don't seem to be interested in UFOs, astronomers don't report anything unusual in the sky, so there probably isn't anything to it. Effectively, I was in the same position that most scientists are in today--you trust your colleagues, and because you don't see any reports from credible, technical witnesses, you assume that there is nothing. And there I was with a technical report--I don't know what it was. It wasn't a flying saucer--it didn't land close to the observatory. But still, it was a mystery. And instead of looking at the data and preserving the data, we were destroying it.

60GCAT: Why did he destroy it?

Vallee: Just fear of ridicule. He thought that the Americans would laugh at us, if we sent it--all of the data on satellites was being concentrated in the U.S. And we were exchanging our data with international bodies. And he just didn't want Paris observatory to look silly by reporting some thing that he could not identify in the sky. [This was in] 1961. Later I found out that other observatories had made exactly the same observation, and that in fact American tracking stations had photographed the same thing and could not identify it either. It was a first magnitude object: it was as bright as [the star] Sirius. You couldn't miss it. It didn't reappear in successive weeks. It's just a little anecdote, but to me that fact that we destroyed it was more important than what we saw. And that reopened the whole question for me: Are there things that scientists are observing and not talking about? And then I started extending a small network of scientists, which is still active, and found that there was a lot of data that was never published. In fact, the best data has never been published. I think a great deal of the misunderstanding about UFOs among scientists is that the scientists have never had access to the best data.

60GCAT: Why has the best data never been published?

Vallee: I talk to a lot of technical companies where the executives are aware of my interests, and I've had a lot of reports under seal of confidentiality from people in science and in business who had seen things. About a year ago, a vice president at IBM took me aside after a conference and said, "Are you the same Jacques Vallee who is interested in UFOs?" And he described a perfectly classic UFO close encounter story that he and his family had in upstate New York. This is not something that is going to be in the National Enquirer.

I met a man who is president of a technical company in Silicon Valley; he wanted to tell me about his experiences. He had been a very-high ranking naval officer in command of a large ship, and he had three experiences with UFOs, two of them in the service in very sensitive positions--and at one time when he was a test pilot. He has never reported any of the encounters, even when he was a pilot. I said, "Weren't you under obligation to report it?" And he said, "Maybe I was, but if they have the slightest doubt about what you are seeing up there, you are [considered to be] crazy--they won't let you near the cockpit of an experimental plane." And he said, "If you're a pilot, you want to fly. You don't want to spend the next month filling out forms for a bunch of psychiatrics." Which is what will happen. I think any pilot will tell you the same thing, you know, over a beer. So those are the cases that I'm interested in. The cases that have not been reported in the press, haven't been distorted in the retelling. When I have time, I follow up on those cases with my own resources basically out of curiosity, with no preconceived idea.

60GCAT: But skeptics always argue that even though there may be anecdotal evidence, there's no hard scientific data. . . .

Vallee: There is plenty of data--and it should be analyzed further. But I do not think it's going to be a propeller from a flying saucer. I think it is going to be things that would be interesting if you could find a pattern to the material. I'm skeptical about stories of crashed saucers; I have an open mind about it, but I've heard those stories for so many years and they never really amount to anything tangible. Also, I am skeptical for another reason: We build technologies now that are extremely reliable where there is the need. How often does your hard disk crash? I mean, if you keep your computer for 15 years, eventually the hard disk is going to crash. But you don't expect that to happen. If you were going to build a technology that takes you across interstellar space, it would have to be extremely reliable.

60GCAT: In your books, you detail the hard data turned up in European investigations.

Vallee: There is a small unit of the CNES, which is the French equivalent of NASA, that has permission to investigate any cases of UFOs. They were set up in the mid-'70s and they've been going ever since. They found a number of cases that couldn't be explained, and some cases were never published with all the data. Cases where there were traces on the ground, where there was evidence of heat, evidence of radiation, including pulsed microwave radiation, and evidence of plants being affected. Again, that doesn't prove anything. It just proves that there was something there. It doesn't tell you what it was. But it certainly is a valid technical issue.

This data doesn't tell you if the phenomenon is natural or not, because it doesn't tell you enough about the conditions where that happened. And that's where I think a lot more research should be done. People have come to me saying, "Look, I was a pilot or in a radar station in Alaska, and we were tracking UFOs--we recorded the data, and I was a pilot and followed one of those things and got gun camera footage of it. When I landed there was a guy waiting for me, in blue jeans and a sweater, who said, 'You didn't see anything up there.'" Meanwhile, a guy with a screwdriver is unhooking the camera from the fuselage. Usually witnesses have no idea where those guys come from. But somebody has a lot of data; and I think that this hard data should be turned over to science, certainly the stuff from 20 years ago--I mean, how classified can it be? By now, we should have known if it was an enemy, so we should turn over the data to the scientific community. Let the skeptics analyze it from their point of view and let anyone else analyze it from their point of view. That's the way science should be done.


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PART 2


EDITOR'S REVELATION: In Part 1 of our interview with UFO sleuth/computer conferencing pioneer Jacques Vallee, we looked at some of the scientific evidence bolstering the contention that UFOs are a real, measurable phenomenon. In Part 2, below, Vallee continues this theme as he talks about his samples of "liquid sky"--the metallic debris occasionally seen ejected from flying disks.
Then hold on to your propeller beanie as we depart four-dimensional time space and look at some of Vallee's more exotic theories about the origin of UFOs. As Vallee puts it, "The UFO phenomenon exists. It has been with us throughout history. It is physical in nature and it remains unexplained in terms of contemporary science. It represents a level of consciousness that we have not yet recognized, and which is able to manipulate dimensions beyond time and space as we understand them. It affects our own consciousness in ways that we do not grasp fully, and it generally behaves as a control system."

Vallee refers to this complex system of control--which is shaping human society over the course of thousands of years--as an "interface of reality with consciousness." It sounds a lot like Arthur C. Clarke's science fictional theme in 2001: A Space Odyssey--an alien intelligence subtly directing the course of human development, toward mysterious ends. Talk about your cosmic conspiracies!

But Vallee also has controversial ideas about human-made UFO conspiracies. "I was investigating some cases that were physically real," he says, "but they were hoaxes--yet not hoaxes on the part of the witnesses."

The two most stunning cases of faked UFO events that Vallee has uncovered occurred rather recently in the history of saucer sightings. In 1980, a strange object purportedly "crashed" in England's Rendlesham Forest, a few miles away from an American Air Force Base. Dozens of military personnel were dispatched into the forest, without weapons, before the supposed crash of a luminous object. After the incident conflicting stories leaked to the press and to civilian investigators, some of the leaks apparently originating from the front office of the military base. Vallee's conclusion--controversial among UFO believers who insist that aliens touched down in Rendlesham Forest--is that "the event had all the earmarks of being staged for the benefit of the witnesses, perhaps so that their psychological reactions could be studied."

Even more bizarre is the information turned up by French investigators in the wake of a bizarre 1979 abduction case. An unemployed young man named Franck Fontaine disappeared outside of his apartment one morning, reportedly after his friends saw him enveloped in a luminous fog. After a week of frenzied press coverage and a fruitless search by the authorities, Fontaine turned up in a field outside the apartment--with no memory of his unusual experience. His friends insisted he had been abducted by a UFO, and police investigators, though they doubted that claim, found no other satisfactory explanation.

But as Vallee reports, investigators from GEPAN, the French government's aerial phenomena study group, were led to an official in the French Ministry of Defense who willingly described the so-called UFO abduction as an "Exercise of General Synthesis." What happened to Fontaine? "We put him to sleep and he was put under an altered state of high suggestibility," replied the official. When asked if the "exercise" was intended to test the investigative abilities of local law enforcement agencies, the official said, "That would be a fair way to describe it." Then he added, ominously, "If this operation had been completed, the next phase would have been far worse." As Vallee notes in his best-selling book, Revelations, "It would be fair to assume that the [Fontaine] operation could have been a test, perhaps a prelude to an experiment of wider scope."

Vallee says he knows the name of the French official, an Air Force officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

So what on earth--to pick an appropriate planet--is going on? Vallee has several theories that might explain such UFO flimflam. The military may be experimenting with psychological warfare techniques, as the Germans did in World War I, when they projected images of the Virgin Mary on banks of smoke in an effort to spook the French into saying their Rosaries instead of killing Germans. Vallee also thinks that sham UFO reports might be used as cover for tests of new military stealth technology.

But the most troubling "deception theory" Vallee poses is that from time to time, the target of UFO hoaxes might be the general public, or a segment thereof.

"In some cases," he says, "the community of ufologists may simply be used in a sociological experiment because they are a convenient group of people to test, to see how they react to different rumors."

Sounds a bit improbable, but Vallee's research into the growth of UFO "contactee" cults is suggests that such manipulation occurs. In his book, Messengers of Deception, Vallee explored the rise of a new kind of religious movement throughout the world: the UFO Messiah cults, in which believers await the coming of bubble-headed saviors in saucers. You can find these groups in Europe and the Americas, in increasing numbers. Want a glimpse of this otherworldly subculture? Just buzz into any of the alt.alien Usenet groups or enter the magic word "UFO" into any World Wide Web search engine and see how fast you're channeled into one of the most heavily trodden alternate dimensions of online obsession since Big Brother went digital.

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http://rbedrosian.com/Downloads/TAPS_1804_Jefferson_Ufo.pdf

THOMAS JEFFERSON'S REPORT TO THE AMERICAN PHILOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, REGARDING A UFO [at the above link: pdf file]

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20028076-501465.html?tag=cbsnewsTwoColLowerPromoArea;morenews

January 10, 2011 6:49 PM
Study: Be Wary of Space Visitors

By Mike Wall This story originally appeared on Space.com

When considering the prospect of alien life, humankind should prepare for the worst, according to a new study: Either we're alone, or any aliens out there are acquisitive and resource-hungry, just like us.

These two unpalatable options are pretty much the only possibilities, according to the new study. That's because evolution is predictable, and alien biospheres should thus produce intelligent creatures much like us, with technological prowess and an ever-increasing need for resources.

But the fact that we haven't run across E.T. yet argues strongly for the latter possibility -- that we are alone in the universe's howling void, the study suggests.

"At present, as many have observed, it is very quiet out there," study author Simon Conway Morris, of the University of Cambridge, told SPACE.com in an e-mail interview. "And given many planetary systems are billions of years older than ours, I'd expect us to be best grilled on toast back in the Cambrian."

Evolution is Predictable

Life on Earth has exploited just about every conceivable niche, tolerating extremes of temperature, salinity, pH and pressure. Conway Morris makes the case that Earth life thus exists close to the physical and chemical limits of life anywhere. [The Weirdest Life on Earth]

Further, Conway Morris says, evolution operates predictably, producing relatively predictable outcomes. These two suppositions argue that alien life, if it exists, should be fairly similar to terrestrial life, generating  intelligent beings much like us. These aliens may look unfamiliar, but any differences would be skin-deep.

There is reason to be wary of such creatures, according to Conway Morris.

"If intelligent aliens exist, they will look just like us, and given our far-from-glorious history, this should give us pause for thought," he writes in the study, which was published today (Jan. 10) in the journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A.

Other researchers have raised this same point. The eminent physicist Stephen Hawking, for example, recently warned that aliens may be more interested in mining our planet for vital resources than in getting to know us.

The prospect of greedy, imperialistic aliens is a troubling one, but Conway Morris thinks another scenario -- also depressing -- is more likely to be true.

We're likely alone in the universe, he writes. The cosmos is almost inconceivably vast, likely harboring at least 100 billion galaxies. And our solar system is relatively young compared to the rest of the universe  -- 4.6 billion years versus 13.7 billion years.

So there should have been plenty of time and opportunity for many alien civilizations to get a sizable evolutionary head start. The fact that E.T. seemingly hasn't contacted us is a strong indication that he's just not out there, according to Conway Morris.

The huge distances that would likely separate potential alien civilizations don't present an insuperable barrier to contact, Conway Morris said.

"At least so far as this galaxy is concerned, a distance of circa 100,000 light years doesn't seem insurmountable, given a relatively slow diffusion rate and a geometrical rate of establishment of colonies," he said.

Welcoming Aliens with Open Arms?

While Conway Morris' study recommends caution when considering the possibility of alien life, another new report suggests that humanity would probably be happy to learn that we're not alone.

Writing in the same issue of the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A, psychologist Albert Harrison predicts that the discovery of alien life -- should it happen anytime soon -- would be more likely to inspire delight than incite pandemonium here on Earth.

That's partly because E.T. would probably seem pretty non-threatening, and fairly abstract, when we first discover it. The first evidence of alien life would likely be a microbe from Mars or other solar system body, or an electromagnetic signal snagged out of the air, according to Harrison.

"This is how we're looking systematically for extraterrestrial life," Harrison, a psychology professor at the University of California, Davis, told SPACE.com. "Because this is where we're looking, this is where we're likely to find it."

Either way, such a discovery would be a far cry from "War of the Worlds"-style invading spaceships. There may be some ambiguity and uncertainty involved, especially with an electromagnetic signal, which could be tough to interpret. But that shouldn't be a major problem, according to Harrison.

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[The remainder of the article is at the above link.]

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FROM:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1802&category=Environment

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Part 3:  Updates On RAF Bentwaters Mystery -
IR Anomalies and Telepathic Download of Binary Code

© 2011 by Linda Moulton Howe

Return to Part 1

 

January 2, 2011  Woodbridge, Suffolk, England - Around 3 AM on December 26, 1980, USAF Airman 1st Class John Burroughs and Staff Sergeant James Penniston, that night assigned as RAF Woodbridge Security Supervisor, were on foot running through the eastern end of Rendlesham Forest that bordered the Capel Green and larger farm fields. Time was distorted for both of them as John and Jim felt like they were moving in slow motion. Each man says their skin tingled and hair on their heads and necks rose as if in a strong electrostatic field, similar to the atmosphere before a big thunderstorm. But it was a cold, clear winter night.

At some point in that run through the eastern end of that thick, tall Rendlesham Forest, Sgt. Penniston “lost John.”  For at least forty-five minutes, Jim Penniston was stunned and mesmerized by a black, triangular, glassy-surfaced craft of unknown origin resting on the forest floor not far from the open farm field at Capel Green.

On September 24, 2009, I produced an Earthfiles report entitled, “Former RAF Bentwaters Staff Sgt. James Penniston Recalls Black, Glassy, Triangular Craft, Symbols and Missing Time.” See Archive 092409 Earthfiles.

[PHOTO ETC. AVAILABLE AT LINK ABOVE AT EARTHFILES.COM]

Former USAF Staff Sgt. James W. Penniston:  “It was a triangular craft. The fabric of the craft was black like glass. And then throughout the fabric of the craft, there was some coloring varying from saucer-shaped to pie-shaped circles that moved around the craft. Some were red and blue, some yellow – or orange – I guess more orange.

… there were markings on the craft, which were very unusual.
Probably 2.5 to 3 feet wide. If you had a sheet of smooth glass and you took a piece of sandpaper and you laid it on that glass, running from the glass to the sandpaper – that’s how it felt.

Here’s something that is odd. I lost track of John for like 45 minutes or so. I don’t know where he was. There was like a 45-minute gap of time there, which seemed like – I don’t know – a couple of minutes. I don’t know what caused the distortion.”

[DRAWING ETC. AVAILABLE AT LINK ABOVE]

Updated and corrected symbol shapes by James Penniston on December 16, 2010,
after Earthfiles discussed his August 26, 1994, hypnosis transcript (below) with Jim.
He said the symbols were raised like Braille on the surface of the black, glassy, triangular
craft and each symbol had the texture of sandpaper. The symbols covered about 3 feet
of the craft's surface, each symbol averaging about 3 inches high.

WHEN IS YOUR VERY NEXT MEMORY OF JOHN BURROUGHS?

When the light on the craft started to generate to a more white, brilliant light is when I backed away from the craft. John (then) was maybe 15 feet away, 20 feet away, standing there.

BECAUSE YOU WERE AFRAID OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE INCREASING LIGHT?

I was not sure what it was going to do. I don’t know – explode? Or? The craft lifted off the forest floor, went to treetop level, and took off at an extreme rate of speed and John and I stood up. Nothing that I know of could be gone in a blink of an eye.

I had this feeling and the feeling was that there would be a return sometime of that craft. I don’t know. It was just a very odd thought.”

 

Like John Burroughs, Jim Penniston has been frustrated by memory blocks about what happened on December 26th in Rendlesham Forest – and what happened to him a few days later when Sgt. Penniston was ordered to report to the Bentwaters Air Force Office of Special Investigations – also known as AFOSI. There Jim was further ordered to undergo hypnosis with sodium pentothal. After that, Sgt. Penniston wondered what the U. K. and American intelligence people did during the several hours that Sgt. Penniston was hypnotized? What did they learn from his mind about his and John's encounter on December 26, 1980, with the lights and craft that he could not remember clearly himself?

So, fourteen years later, on August 26, 1994, Jim underwent his own hypnosis with a hypnotherapist to see if he could find out more. Here is a brief excerpt from the first of two hypnosis sessions in which Jim moves his hands and fingers in the air over the raised symbols that remind him of Braille.

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James W. Penniston (S/Sgt. Ret.)
Hypnosis Session, September 10, 1994

In his second hypnosis session on September 10, 1994, Jim Penniston breaks through an apparent post-hypnotic suggestion by the AFOSI hypnotizers to keep him from talking. The following are excerpts from that second session in which the American and British intelligence people seem to have anticipated before their sodium pentothal hypnosis that Jim Penniston received a telepathic download of binary numbers - as if the intelligence operatives have had experience with this kind of encounter and telepathic download of numbers before.

[BELOW ARE PICS OF SOME TRANSCRIPTS of the interview/session] part 4 is available through the above link:

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Enough for now. Please be aware that all info from the critters is highly likely to be chock full of deception. Cheers.

1,528 posted on 01/10/2011 7:37:13 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Wow. Could you please post something even longer? I can still scroll to the bottom.


1,529 posted on 01/10/2011 8:04:34 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Rocky

A couple of life long tendencies, inputs contribute to my posting style on length.

1. 6 years as a part time librarian including 4 in charge of the SPECIAL COLLECTIONS DEPT of the Univ Library. I tend to like to provide a wealth of material and leave it to the reader to sort through hit according to their needs and tastes.

2. I tend to post as I would like posted to on such topics. . . . part of the Biblical doing unto others as I’d prefer done unto me.

My page down button works well. I don’t mind using it.


1,530 posted on 01/10/2011 8:44:14 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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Gleanings from EARTHFILES.COM--Linda Moulton Howe's website:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1805&category=Environment

Posted with standing written permission from LMH.

Below are excerpted portions. The whole article is available currently in the public area of earthfiles.com

Earthfiles Viewers High Strangeness Reports

© 2011 by Linda Moulton Howe

 

“That Skyhawk disappeared without a trace
on a cloudless day in perfect flying weather.”

- U. S. Navy eyewitness, Tonkin Gulf, North Vietnam, 1968

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A  U.S. Navy A-4E over North Vietnam in November 1967.
Image source U.S. Defense Visual Information System.

Earthfiles Viewer Letters:

1)

Subject:  My Story of Tonkin Gulf Sighting in 1968
Date: December 17, 2010
To: Linda Moulton Howe <earthfiles@earthfiles.com>

Hi Linda,

I could relate to sightings of the UFO light orbs that some callers mentioned.
When I was on active duty in the Navy during the Vietnam war, we witnessed a similar event in the Tonkin Gulf about 70 miles off the coast of North Vietnam. As I recall the event, I was on watch on the 07 level  (above the carriers bridge deck on the island structure).

The flight deck crew was in the process of re-arming and re-fueling the squadron air wings on the flight deck. As it was night, all work was done under the red combat lighting. At about 0200 hrs., my 07 level watch noticed what appeared to be an air contact just off the port bow at about 25 degrees elevation. We immediately contacted CIC (Combat Information Center) and advised them of this. However, they held no air contacts at all on any of their radar screens.

As we continued to observe the "contact," it suddenly grew to about 4 - 5 times its size in the shape of a of a roundish, orb-like object with what appeared to be flashing red, green and orange lights. All this transpired in a matter of seconds. While its relative elevation remained about the same as when we first saw it as a point of light, it was difficult to even venture a guess as to its range from our ship. Still at this point no radar contacts were made.

The interesting thing, was that as soon as the unidentified (UFO) contact grew in size and displayed the multi-colored, flashing lights, all exterior ships lighting immediately went out creating an extreme hazard for the flight deck crew as it was a moonless night. In addition at the same instant, all our ships radar systems went down and the antennas high above us stopped turning.

Further, our Captain had been in conversation with the Captain of the destroyer (about 1/2 mile aft of us) that served as our plane guard. Their ship-to-ship phone comms ceased at the same time.

The aerial object continued to hover in the same place for about 40 - 50 seconds and then it suddenly streaked off up into the night sky. As soon as this happened, the flight deck lights, radar, ship comms returned to normal, but no contacts on radar were made - even as the contact object sped away. The same conditions happened aboard the destroyer as well.

My carrier was the USS Bon Homme Richard - CVA-31. We had some nuclear weapons onboard - perhaps this is what attracted whatever it was.

About two months later while on R&R in Singapore, several of us who had witnessed the incident in July 1968 met some Australian destroyer sailors who related a similar incident, but of the submerged variety while on an exercise tracking one of their subs. They too had massive electronic malfunctions and lost all sonar and radar capabilities for the entire time of the encounter, which lasted about 1 minute.

Shortly after the July 1968 incident, my ship was heading to Subic Bay in the Philippines. One of our Squadron's A-4 Skyhawk fighters was to rejoin the ship en route as we left the South China Sea.

That Skyhawk disappeared without a trace on a cloudless day in perfect flying weather. As it was well past the coast, any enemy contact was ruled out as well as anything mechanical. I'm sure that entry in the ships log probably doesn't exist!”

2)

Subject:   Black Triangle Craft and Multi-Colored Lights
Date: December 17, 2010
To: earthfiles@earthfiles.com

Dear Linda,

I was listening to you on Coast to Coast AM last night, but was unable to get through the phone lines with my story. I think you will find it interesting because it suggests a link between black triangle craft sightings and sightings of rotating, multi-colored lights.

Once I was close enough to see the source of the light, I first thought I was looking at a baseball scoreboard, because I saw red and white lighting coming from an object that appeared to be a black rectangle on top of a signpost. Then I noted that the shape was too far away from the baseball fields to be a scoreboard and that the lights were coming from underneath it. The "signpost" I saw was actually a pole for a power line, and the "rectangle" was actually a black, triangular object levitating about a foot over the top of the pole.

The top and bottom of the object were equilateral triangles that ended in sharp points and the three sides were rectangles. From tip to base, I would estimate that the craft was about fifteen feet long. In the center of the underside of the craft was a circular, red light. At each "tip" of the underside were smaller, circular, white lights. If a pole for a power line is twenty-five feet tall, then the object was no more than twenty-six to twenty-seven feet up in the air. It made absolutely no sound, nor did it seem to hover up and down. The object was completely still in the air.

I drove all the way up to the location of the object. I actually pulled over on the side of the road opposite where the object was levitating. For a few seconds the object remained motionless, then made a very precise turn in the air. The object turned as if it was on top of a dais. The center point of the object remained in the same position before and after the turn. One tip of the object was then pointed in the direction of my vehicle. Immediately after the turn, the object drifted soundlessly to a position directly above my vehicle.

At that point I put my gas pedal to the floor and sped away down the road that ran alongside Munny-Sokol park, in the opposite direction from Union Chapel Road! I continued to watch the position of the object in my rearview mirror as I sped away. The object did not follow me but continued to move forward over an area that is now Ol' Colony Golf Complex. I turned right towards Verner school and then managed to steel my nerves enough to turn around and see if the object was still in the area. When I came back down the road in the direction of Union Chapel Road, the object was gone.

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As I approached the elbow, at a distance of no more than one hundred feet from the turn, I immediately saw flashing yellow and white lights from directly in front of me. Thinking that a wrecker or a semi was coming from around the other side of the elbow, I pulled over to the side of the road. I continued to watch the lights but no vehicle ever came, and then I realized that the lights were not from a source that was on the other side of the elbow; the lights were coming from a source that was directly in front of me but just off of the road. Suddenly the lights changed from yellow and white to yellow, white, red, blue, and green. Then the lights stopped. I drove all the way up to where the road turns and got out of my vehicle, but I could not see any object at the place where the lights were coming from.

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3)  Subject: Another orange glowing sphere!
Date: December 17, 2010
To: earthfiles@earthfiles.com

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July 2000, Fairbanks, Alaska, 24-hour-summer daylight. Illustration
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Hi Linda,

During the winter of 1999-2000, I kept seeing orange lights in the sky over an area that has several gold mines on my way to and from work. Then in the summer of 2000, one of those lights actually flew above my garden, stopped and I watched it for about 1 minute before it turned direction and flew off.

I live 50 miles southwest of Fairbanks, Alaska. During that time I worked in Fairbanks and had a long commute early in the morning between 6:00am and 7:00am and then leaving work around 5:00pm and arriving home around 6:00pm. Our long winter nights meant driving in the dark both ways. The winter sightings were so odd, I couldn’t believe that no one was reporting these sightings to the local paper. These orange lights reminded me of sodium street lights in color and intensity of glow. They were quite big, maybe 30 feet in diameter and only a couple hundred feet in the air.

I know they were low in the sky because as I was driving into Fairbanks from the Parks Hwy you come down Ester Hill that overlooks the city. I could see these orbs below me as I was descending down the hill. When you reach the bottom of Ester hill there is a community with the same name that is surrounded by hills that have several gold mines there. There is also a State of Alaska weigh station on the right side of the highway directly across from the access road to Ester. This area was mined heavily by dredges years ago. I personally know one of the families that owns one of the mines. These lights would be hovering over the mines. Sometimes over the mines to the left of the highway and sometimes over the mines to the right of the highway. I saw them every day for months.

I told my coworkers and husband about these but of course they laughed. So, I never reported this to the police or called FAA. I was surprised that no one in that area reported them anywhere. Then I saw on the UFO reporting center website that a husband and wife saw these orange orbs in their backyard during the same time. They live in North Pole with is about 12 miles east of Fairbanks. I am attaching their UFO reports to this email. After a couple of months the lights disappeared until I had a close encounter with one at my home.

It was the following July 2000 during our 24 hours of summer daylight and it was hot. I had gotten out of bed because I couldn’t sleep and had wandered into the bathroom to look out the open window trying to catch a breeze to cool down. I live on 5 acres with 2 acres cleared. The view out my windows is to the NW sky. Even though I live in a subdivision the closest neighbor is ½ mile away, all I see out my windows is wilderness. As I looked out the window I saw a salmon orange globe approximately 30 feet in diameter approach from the NW towards my garden. It stopped about 20 feet above the 60 foot trees that line the north side of the garden. The globe looked like a 30 foot diameter pale salmon colored transparent glass ball.

Inside the globe, half the diameter of the outside surface was a darker salmon orange globe that was not transparent and in the center of the darker globe was a steady brilliant white light. It was hard to tell the size of the white light because of the brilliance. This ball /globe was not glowing or pulsing. It just looked like a transparent salmon colored Christmas ornament with something darker inside with a very shiny light on it. I remember feeling a shock as the hair stood up on the back of my neck and arms and I had the distinct feeling that I was being watched. Although I did not see any type of creature or movement from inside the globe, I started to think the words “Don’t scare me now.” and with that thought the object made a left angle turn and took off to the north.

 

4)  Subject: Lizard Skin
Date: December 29, 2010
To: earthfiles@earthfiles.com

Linda,

I'm a very private man living a not so private life and well, to be honest I've kept my secret a long time and I just don't want anyone I know either personally or in my business life to know anything about what happened to me. I've never told a soul and I had planned on spending my entire life without doing so.

Last week I listened to your November interview as that Texas nurse told her story about the bark-skinned creatures and thought to myself, bark? Then my mind wondered as to maybe she means like the bark of a birch or similar tree that is just a little bit rough and not as deep as perhaps a much larger tree such as an oak. After picturing them as so in my mind's eye, I became a little un-nerved to the idea, she might be telling the truth.

But your December 2010 Earthfiles and Coast interviews scared the bejezus out of me!
At 40 years of age, I thought I was through having the nightmares but, you gave me a doozy this past Sunday. I was catching up on my coast podcasts laying in bed waiting for the sandman to come and do his trick when I got to the story of the man taken in 1977 by the green-skinned fellas. The story of his kid's night terrors really got to me as I too was a young boy at the very same time having the very same horrors of my own to deal with.

Then at the end of the first half hour of the interview, you mentioned lizard skin. I had to turn it off at that point, I just couldn't listen any more - it brought back a memory, a very scary memory. A couple hours later my wife woke me up because I was, as she told me, making horrible sounds, bouncing and rolling around in the bed and sweating bullets.

I will say this much - they ain't gray (where that ever came from? I'm sure I'll never know) and their skin ain't smooth. I know! I've been face-to-face with them, I even hugged one when I was seven years old, yes that's the honest truth and I know what their alien skin looks like up close. It (their skin) always sort of reminded of a brown anole lizard - though maybe just a bit lighter but, the texture is a spot on perfect match, very thin, light and leathery. I remember it so vividly because unlike my experience as a child there was no tinkering with my brain to help me block or forget it the second time as an adult, I woke up fully aware of what just happened just a few hours prior.

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The Brown Anole, Anolis sagrei or Norops sagrei is a lizard native to Cuba and the Bahamas. It has been widely introduced elsewhere in Florida, Southern Georgia, Texas, Taiwan, Hawaii, Southern California and other Caribbean islands. This species is highly invasive. In its introduced range it reaches exceptionally high population densities,
is capable of expanding its range at an exponential rate, and both out-competes
and consumes many species of native lizards.

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1,531 posted on 01/12/2011 10:33:57 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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UFO PING LIST PING--I think the video series is well worth watching--He's evidently a detective and has put together an incredible array of personal sourced and verified data.

Folks,
I was quite dubious about this whole sub-set of puzzle pieces.

I've known for a long time that there are various future earth change maps around with somewhat differing scenarios yet some great similarities as well.

Stan Deyo has one from the Hopi elders here:



The Navy sea changes map is here:

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Stan Deyo's link:

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/07_Earth_Changes/07_Earth_Change_pics/070822.Hopi.sea.level.jpg

The following link
is part 3 of a 12 part video series on--more or less--current and looming realities.

I have seen enough puzzle pieces over a long enough period of time to believe that this man

HAS PUT TOGETHER
HIS EXTREMELY WELL RESEARCHED
AND WELL SOURCED CONNECTIONS' DERIVED DATA
TO BEST DESCRIBE THE UNDERLYING REALITIES.

HE STATES A NUMBER OF VERIFIABLE THINGS.

He shared some new stuff related to the Vatican that I had not heard before.

I do not know what percent of what he says is absolute truth. I'd guesstimate that it is above 90%.

I strongly encourage everyone to watch the whole series. Sections 3 & 4 are particularly interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Ieca5utqo

I may try and jot down some summary notes at a relistening later.
May God lead all of good heart closer to Him and directly into HIS WILL for them in terms of preparation for looming events.

I'm fairly certain that SOME--perhaps even on our END TIMES PING LIST--certainly some FREEPERS know retired Navy personnel who have moved to the Ozarks above a certain elevation because they know of such looming changes. They could verify such for us if they would be bold enough to wisely approach such persons. Perhaps even giving them the link to the video series and asking them how much of it is true.

There are also likely FREEPERS who know D.C. government personnel who are being moved to Denver because of such changes.

And we may even have FREEPERS who are aware of the Vatican efforts and Wallmart's efforts related to such changes.

I also received a document from the prophetic elders if Christianity currently and may try and post that on it's own thread tomorrow or Sunday.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE LORD GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.

1,532 posted on 01/14/2011 8:52:25 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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FURTHER GLEANINGS OF IMPORT AND POSSIBLE INTEREST:

SOME OF WHICH LEND SUPPORT to the video series' assertions in the post just above.

FROM ATS:

Nasa warns solar flare will cause devastation., page

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread650853/pg1

Topic started on 14-1-2011 @ 03:02 AM by Wildeagle Britain could face widespread power blackouts and be left without critical communication signals for long periods of time, after the earth is hit by a once-in-a-generation “space storm”, Nasa has warned.

National power grids could overheat and air travel severely disrupted while electronic items, navigation devices and major satellites could stop working after the Sun reaches its maximum power in a few years.

Senior space agency scientists believe the Earth will be hit with unprecedented levels of magnetic energy from solar flares after the Sun wakes “from a deep slumber” sometime around 2013, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

In a new warning, Nasa said the super storm would hit like “a bolt of lightning” and could cause catastrophic consequences for the world’s health, emergency services and national security unless precautions are taken. Scientists believe it could damage everything from emergency services’ systems, hospital equipment, banking systems and air traffic control devices, through to “everyday” items such as home computers, iPods and Sat Navs.

Due to humans’ heavy reliance on electronic devices, which are sensitive to magnetic energy, the storm could leave a multi-billion pound damage bill and “potentially devastating” problems for governments.

sources:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7819201/Nasa-warns-solar-flares-from-huge-space-storm-will-cause-devastation.html

http://hubpages.com/hub/SUNSPOTS-SOLAR-FLARES-SOLAR-STORMS-SOLAR-MAX-solar-cycle-sunspot-activity-sunspot-cycle-maximum

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/c2/512/

http://www.solarcycle24.com/sxi.htm

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Not sure what to make of this:

The 9/11 Firemen’s Reference Guide
by Larry McWilliams and Phil Jayhan

The 9/11 Firemen have been at the center of the story since day one. They were the men, we are told, that rushed into the towers when everyone else fled. They were the consummate 9/11 heroes. They were the very symbol of American loss on that day.

That is why study of the 9/11 Firemen has remained, for nine long years, a subject taboo to research and even to discussion.

Yet, in the wake of plentiful research proving irregularities among the passengers and even the occupants of the Towers, the mystery of the Firemen remained.

http://letsrollforums.com/happened-9-11-firemen-t24265.html?s=b722bb2e1cef738e1ebe29698a168538&

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Is the end of the world imminent?

*** A review of the things that could kill us all, as we approach 2012 and beyond... ***

We must accept the fact that a great cataclysm is imminent, and it will be end of human life. In the hours, days, months or years before that, there is a high probability of lesser events which will severely disrupt modern civilization.

The Earth is overdue for a number of common natural disasters, which by chance have not yet occurred during the brief period spanning human existence. We will experience a major cataclysm, and it will probably be soon. It�s simply a question of waiting to find out when.

Modern civilisation is fragile and unsustainable; we lack the knowledge and skills to survive without daily support by technology and civilised society, and we will almost universally not survive the approaching cataclysm. (In contrast, Neolithic civilization (e.g. native North American) is sustainable, with individuals and small groups being self-sufficient, and it would have been resilient to mass-extinction events.)

The events which will lead to our demise are well understood, and for convenience we may divide these into six main categories.

* Comet or asteroid impact

A significant impact or shower of impacts, capable of eliminating most life on the surface of the planet, causing the extinction of numerous species, is inevitable. The Earth is regularly struck by comets and meteorites. We may have prior warning of years, hours, or none at all.

A single major impact could easily cause multiple secondary impacts over an entire hemisphere, generate super-Tsunami waves hundreds of feet high travelling at the speed of sound, sweeping clear large areas of the planet. Long-term effects include global climate changes more than sufficient to stimulate the next ice age.

E.g. On 13 January 2004 scientists were �minutes� away from formally announcing to the government that the Earth was going to be hit �within 36 hours� by asteroid 2004 AS1. At the time, the estimated diameter of the object was only 30 metres; large enough to vaporise a major city. Later observations confirmed that it was an extremely dense rock 500 metre wide, capable of causing destruction on a continental scale.

E.g. The asteroid Apophis follows a path which could lead it to collide with our planet on 13 April 2036. The best opportunity to intercept it and prevent a future collision will be in 2029 during a near-miss.

* Supervolcano eruption

There are eight known supervolcanos in the world, two of which are in Europe and one in North America. There are probably many more which have not yet been discovered, both on land and beneath the ocean. A supervolcano is always cataclysmic event. A single supervolcano eruption causes serious problems on a global scale.

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continued at link below:

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2769

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HAVE YOUR PETS STARTED ACTING DIFFERENT[ly]?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread640040/pg1

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Global Food Supplies Stretched to Limit, page 1

Strained by rising demand and battered by bad weather, the global food supply chain is stretched to the limit, sending prices soaring and sparking concerns about a repeat of food riots last seen three years ago. Signs of the strain can be found from Australia to Argentina, Canada to Russia.

-"We are entering a danger territory," Abdolreza Abbassian, chief economist at the U.N.'s Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), said last week.

-As supplies tighten, prices surge. Earlier this month, the FAO said its food price index jumped 32 percent in the second half of 2010, soaring past the previous record set in 2008.

-"I haven't seen numbers this low that I can remember in the last 20 or 30 years," said Dennis Conley, an agricultural economist at the University of Nebraska. "We are at record low stocks. So if there any kind of glitch at all in the U.S. weather, supplies are going to remain tighter and we might see even higher prices." Advertise | AdChoices

Higher oil prices are also pushing up the cost of food — in two ways. First, the added shipping cost raises the delivered price of agricultural products. Higher oil prices also divert more crops like corn and soybeans to biofuel production, further tightening supplies for livestock feed and human consumption.

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2011- The Disclosure Deadline Has Ended And Now Change Is Coming , page 1

posted on 14/1/2011 @ 13:00 this post Disclosure has come and gone, yet still we are unaware.

A long time ago there was an agreement, the ebe's gave technology specifically to the US government to better this planet and its people. In return the ebe's were allowed to abduct human beings for their own agenda(s) this agreement was given a deadline. That deadline has come and gone, and still no disclosure.

The US government, well ok, lets gets this straight, not the US government as we know it, although they are made aware of alien presence they do not monitor it. I am talking about a government within a government orchestrated by a small select of elites, that control a vast network of power. These elites have been running the show for a long time now. Anyway the US government (within government) decided to use this technology for military purposes, this includes, weather alteration, laser beam technology,cloaking,inter-dimensional travel and many more such amazing technology. This technology is being used to make people rich and very powerful.

The ebe's have stepped back and not interfered, mainly because they do not care (in the sense of compassion) for hu-mans, they only care (in a sense of thier job) for the earth. Our governments know what is coming and are trying so desperately to do something about it to save themselves. These people do not give a rats arse about anyone but themselves. Their egos are so inflated that they cannot see what their actions are doing anymore,

When you have killed one person, whats another 10000+ they are just dots on a screen to them. For people thinking that ET are going to save the day, IMHO its not going to happen, unless of course I am completely wrong and I have misunderstood.(I pray that the case)

The time frame of this disclosure has come and gone like I said and still nothing is said to the people, we can't handle the truth apparently. Instead we get to watch documentaries and movies on the subject to sow the seeds. Its to late for that, the time is coming and I am not the only one that can feel it. General census is that there is something happening in the way people are opening up about their beliefs, as though a time has come where thinking outside the box is accepted. Is it too late?

From what I understand something is coming that will shock our very core of existence, our entire lives are about to change and there is nothing we can do about it and guess what there is a twist in all of this.

Our governments and leaders who have kept this secret for so long, who have murdered many to keep the secret want forgiveness, they do not want to face any trial for their crimes and it appears that ET are going to grant them that when they show themselves. I for one do not feel that I can forgive these people. So many innocent hu-man beings have died so that the people in charge can have more power and more money and more greed. So many innocent free energy scientists have perished at the hands of the corrupted people.

I can't say for sure when but we are about to see just how far ET has infiltrated hu-man life here on earth, we are about to be shown that all is not what it seems.

For example

MORE AT THE LINK BELOW:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651020/pg1

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So really who profits from the congresswomen being assasinated by a MKULTRA agent?, page 1

So really who profits from the congresswomen being assassinated by a MKULTRA agent? Who stands to profit? More excuses on why the public needs to be managed by a strict fascist authoritarian central bureacracy. The private interests that hijacked our lawmaking in congress will stop at nothing until they enslave us completely.

They want us to freak out and become violent to make the case for martial law. Thats why libertarians,socialists, and anarchists are non-violent. They won't use us as a tool to push a police state agenda. No violence. No killing. No theft. No lies and manipulation.

We have to be better than them.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread650918/pg1

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THAT'S it for ATS tonight.

Maybe other sites tomorrow IF I get administrivia for class prep done enough.

Cheers.

1,533 posted on 01/15/2011 12:08:51 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
watched all 12 parts, simply outstanding...!!!

i'm even going to look into auditing an EMT course...

1,534 posted on 01/15/2011 7:21:25 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

INDEED.

I’m considering that, too.

Thanks for your kind reply.


1,535 posted on 01/15/2011 7:45:06 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Chode; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

All:

I haven’t watched this series yet but it comes from a very informed and wise FREEPER:


Hiya Quix,

I would like to present a new angle on the Nephilim.

Look up a guy named “Dr. Michael S. Heiser” He is a friend of Hoagland, and of coast2coast, so you may have heard him before...

He is an authority on ancient texts, specializing in Hebrew, Aramaic, Sumerian and Akkadian, and his perspective is VERY enlightening.

He is on YouTube, and I specifically recommend:

“Mike Heiser Genesis 6 hybrids, Sons of God, Nephilim (9 parts)” - VID is awful, but content is very good.

and

“Anunnaki are not from Nibiru, Sitchin is wrong.com - (13 parts)” Very good, but be careful, as the segments are sometimes out of order as defined by “next” on YouTube...

See here for YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Michael+S.+Heiser&aq=f

here: http://michaelsheiser.com/
and here: http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/index.html

Mildly entertaining, extremely informative.


1,536 posted on 01/15/2011 8:00:49 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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NOTE:

The good Dr Michael Heiser is part of Guy Malone’s fantastic collection of top flight scholars discussing the whole ET/UFO/NEPHILIUM/WATCHERS etc.

stuff from Genesis 3-6 etc. and other sources.

I believe he has a lot of great insights.

I’m not convinced that the whole phenomena is 100% spiritual in the sense of being 0.000000000000% tangible.

Anyway—the list of Michael’s videos is here:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Michael+S.+Heiser&aq=f


1,537 posted on 01/16/2011 6:54:37 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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TONIGHT’S GLEANINGS . . . FROM ATS

Earth must prepare for close encounter with aliens, say scientists., page 1

SOURCE:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jan/10/earth-close-encounter-aliens-extraterrestrials

UN should co-ordinate plans [EQUAL GLOBAL GOVERNMENT] for dealing with extraterrestrials – and we can’t guarantee that aliens will be friendly

Alok Jha, science correspondent guardian.co.uk, Monday 10 January 2011 07.00 GMT Article history

World governments should prepare a co-ordinated action plan in case Earth is contacted by aliens, according to scientists.

They argue that a branch of the UN must be given responsibility for “supra-Earth affairs” and formulate a plan for how to deal with extraterrestrials, should they appear.

The comments are part of an extraterrestrial-themed edition of the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A published today. In it, scientists examine all aspects of the search for extraterrestrial life, from astronomy and biology to the political and religious fallout that would result from alien contact.

“Will a suitable process based on expert advice from proper and responsible scientists arise at all, or will interests of power and opportunism more probably set the scene?” asked Professor John Zarnecki of the Open University and Dr Martin Dominik of the University of St Andrews in the introductory paper. “A lack of co-ordination can be avoided by creating an overarching framework in a truly global effort governed by an international politically legitimated body.” The pair argue that the UN has a ready-made mechanism for such a forum in its Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (Copuos).

Member states of Copuos should put “supra-Earth affairs” on their agenda, say the scientists, and establish structures similar to those proposed for dealing with threats from near-Earth objects, such as asteroids, that might be on a collision course with our planet.

According to Simon Conway Morris, a professor of evolutionary palaeobiology at Cambridge University, anyone planning for alien contact should prepare for the worst.

Evolution on alien worlds, he said, is likely to be Darwinian in nature. Morris argues that life anywhere else in the universe will therefore probably have important similarities with life on Earth – especially if it comes from Earth-like worlds that have similar biological molecules to ours. That means ET might resemble us, warts and all, with our tendencies towards violence and exploitation.

MORE AT THE LINK ABOVE

ROYAL SOCIETY LINK AND ARTICLE:

Discussion Meeting Issue ‘The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society’ organized and edited by Martin Dominik and John C. Zarnecki
February 13, 2011; 369 (1936)

http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/current/

ATS THREAD:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651456/pg1
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Panaramic view of area 51:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651451/pg1

source pic—large—i.e. very wide pic—would need enlarged probably in your pic viewer:

http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/41030121.jpg


PRESS RELEASE: What Happened To The 9/11 Firemen?: 85% Take VCF only 15% on SSDI, page 1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651230/pg1


Smoking Damages DNA Within Minutes, Research Shows, page 1

BLOOMBERG BUSINESS WEEK SOURCE:

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/648898.html

Hecht and his colleagues reported their observations in the current issue of the journal Chemical Research in Toxicology.

In their research, the investigators focused on a class of cancer-causing culprits found in cigarette smoke called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, or PAHs.

PAHs are known to inflict damage on DNA and are therefore thought to play a large role in the onset of lung cancer, a disease that the researchers pointed out has been linked to the loss of 3,000 lives a day worldwide, mostly as a consequence of smoking

CONTINUED AT source LINK

ATS THREAD—SOURCE LINK IS AT THE BEGINNING

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651575/pg1


THE DAY BEFORE ROSWELL

[QUIX: THIS IS A VERY EXCELLENT AND WELL RESEARCHED ARTICLE]

posted on 16/1/2011 @ 00:23 this post A while back Stanton Friedman told me that Roswell was not the beginning, but actually the end of a period when Flying Discs (as they were called back then) were buzzing the entire United States continuously for an entire 2 weeks BEFORE Roswell.

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He suggested I should go have a look through the newspaper microfiche archives in my area because the majority of these sightings were right in my area. I did so and... he turned out to be 100% correct. Every day front page headlines. I am attaching scans and text of those 2 weeks.

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Also our top brass were being grilled by reporters as to what the deal was. They denied any knowledge and thus were being made to look bad since these things ripped through our skies with impunity and basically laughed at any chase craft.

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As time has passed and I have done some traveling, I always make it a point to stop by the local library wherever I am and go through the microfiche archives for the summer/fall of 1947. Reason being, it has been a jackpot every time without fail, and the stories vary from state to state, town to town, paper to paper.

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Many stories are one of a kind not reprinted in other papers. One of THE most interesting facts to emerge from all of this is:

The vast majority of locations the Discs came to and “visited” were top secret military installations. The public did not know that at the time, but presently it is quite obvious why they would be visiting Hanford, WA (Kenneth Arnold and more) and of course Roswell, being the only nuclear air wing.

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Also White Sands, Los Alamos and more. So as I traced their movements during this 2 weeks leading up to “the crash”, I noted all the TS and black project areas they went straight for, as I’m sure the generals at the time did too. They traveled in a pack, ranging from as small as 3 up to as large as 9 usually, 11 on one occasion.

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They cut corners on a dime without slowing down. They were silver sports models, and could emit intense bright light even during the day but usually did not do so. The pattern of movement reminded me of a rock band on tour, day by day going to a different city, then moving on. The East Coast had a few days of big activity also.

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The biggest surprise was when I went to Hong Kong for a friends wedding, and of course went to their library. He came along with great interest and I started as usual a full month before Roswell to make sure I didn’t miss anything.

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Day by day the film rolls by and... nothing! I can’t believe my eyes because I had never come up empty before. The entire critical 2 weeks and -nada-. I keep going, and surprisingly not even the famous AAF captures flying disc story or the follow up balloon story was not run.

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But yet I keep going on sort of in stunned disbelief, then finally, a full 2 weeks AFTER Roswell, jackpot! The shiny fleet of 9 arrives during mid day as 100’s of Chinese dock workers, and various townspeople watch in amazement at their speed and sharp movements.

Here are the excerpts from what I found that first trip:

CONTINUED AT ATS THREAD LINK:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651611/pg1


2 TONS OF DEAD SARDINES WASH UP ON BEACH.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651427/pg1


200 COWS FOUND DEAD IN A FIELD:

An investigation is underway after 200 dead cows were found in a field in the Town of Stockton.
Posted: 5:20 PM Jan 14, 2011
Reporter: WSAW Staff

An investigation is underway after 200 dead cows were found in a field at 8055 4th Avenue in the Town of Stockton.

According to the Portage County Sheriff’s Department, the owner of the cattle has been working with a local vet and it’s believed the animals died from the IBR/BVD virus. The virus can cause respitory and reproductive problems.

Samples from the dead cows have been sent to Madison for testing.

Portage County authorities say there is no threat to humans or other animals.

SOURCE LINK:

http://www.wsaw.com/news/headlines/Dead_Cows_Found_in_Portage_County_113634654.html?ref=654

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651296/pg1


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Why the Elite Wants You to Think Judaism is Evil, page 1

There has never been a more revolutionary ideology or way of life or belief system or religion on this planet than Judaism. In its heart, Judaism is the absolute denial of any kind of man-made restrictions and constrictions on human consciousness, on human development, on human value. And it is therefore very frightening to all elites. So it makes sense then that the elites would want people to, instead of embracing this revolutionary - this subversive - way of thinking, they want you to believe that it’s evil.”

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651573/pg1


Peaceful Meeting On Hopi Reservation Raided By Hopi Rangers

From Jerome Longbottom

Dear Friends,
On Wednesday Jan.12, I participated in a meeting between the Plaintiffs and their Lawyer for Civil Case (Resolution H-053-210) To stop the proposed Constitution from being forced down the throats of the Hopi people. The plaintiffs in the case were attending a peacefully assembled meeting with their attorney via speaker phone when the Hopi Rangers forcebly removed several people including myself from the village office.

Hopi Federal Preliminary Injunction.pdf
325 kb View Download
Hopi Federal Complaint.pdf
287 kb View Download

PROPOSED HOPI CONSTITUTION

Flaws of the proposed Draft 24A.doc
34 kb View Download

According to the Chief Ranger, they were given their directions from the Tribal Council and the Tribes Legal Counsel. How disheartening that this atrocity occurred between the Tribal Government and its people.

It is incomprehensible that something like this can happen in the United States. There was no search warrant, eviction notice or criminal activity. It was a group that has met in the building before, having a Lawyer / Client discussion.

Even more amazing, the Bureau of Indian Affairs law enforcement officers were present and witnessed everything but never intervened. These Traditional Hopi have no recourse and are being bullied for being true to their heritage.

CONTINUED AT LINK

http://infoleaks.blogspot.com/2011/01/peacefull-meeting-on-hopi-reservation.html


UFO’s in Korea: Korea’s Battle of LA and splitting objects, page 1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651327/pg1


YES AMERICA, WE ARE FAILING OUR CHILDREN:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651897/pg1


HOW MUCH ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILLING TO TAKE?

How much more are the American people going to take before they’re willing to do something. The rich in this country are out of control and greed has taken over. The US last month created 100,000 jobs as a whole while one Iphone factory in China created 300,000 jobs. How is it a company such as Apple can pay people $0.50 an hour and charge $600 a phone. As far as I’m concerned if people like the CEO of Apple want to exploit the Chinese work force maybe they should go live there. Why should they continue to reap the rewards of living in America if all they’re gonna do is sell the American people out.

I sit back and watch the media conglomorates like Fox and MSNBC push they’re agendas while deviding people with politics. The average American is either ignorant or blind to whats going on. The French roit over such things as the retirement age being pushed back but we Americans keep bending over and taking it while the elite laugh all the way to the bank.

I’m sick of watching everything my grandparents faught and worked for being taken way so that the upper 1% can increase thier wealth.

Am I alone on this matter because no one I know seems to care?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651749/pg1


This is the future they want to implement, is it good for you?, page 1

I thought this was a hoax video. It is not.

According to the video they control how much water you use, control your transportation, your brain (”It makes so much sense, doesn’t it? Switch off brain and goto work!”), all your actions electronically (”I’m glad there is a mega-computer in charge”), what schools your children goto, what jobs you work at - thus how much money you can make which creates a two tiered society where you can never become rich, what foods are grown, what foods you can eat (you didn’t REALLY need meat but once a year did you?), your ability to buy automobiles (”the state knows it’s not practical anymore”), your ability to publicly assmeble.

If you don’t capitulate and live in these big-brother controlled cities you will be disconnected from the internet, forced to live in slum cities, can’t get a job that will sustain you, cut off access to essential services (health care, food, water, plumbing, who knows what else???). So the message is capitulate to this control or live in a fenced in hell.

What is this you ask? Is this another ATS conspiracy???

NO! It is a real video from the non-profit organization Forum for the Future (alliteration almost allows all evil envisionable)!

Who is this organization? It’s some of the biggest corporations on earth! Here is a full listt from their webpage, but a few examples include:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651802/pg1


Spot the Human NSA social engineering assets.,

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651422/pg1


There were 3867 more earthquakes in the USA than last year!, page 1

According to the US Geological Survey National Earthquake Information Center
earthquake.usgs.gov...
the USA had 8131 earthquakes. In 2009 we had 4264 earthquakes. That’s 3867 more earthquakes than last year. However in 2008 we had 3618 earthquakes, compared to 2791 earthquake in 2007.
From 1990 to 1999 there were only 3 years (1992,1994 and 1999) that the USA exceeded 3000 earthquakes.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

And in the years from 2000 to 2010, there were 6 years that exceeded 3000 earthquakes.
So fare this years, the USA has had 33 earthquakes.
These graphs are supplied from the USGS at

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Here is the predicted 2010 to 2011 USA earthquakes.

MORE AT THE LINK ON ATS

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651889/pg1


PARANORMAL STUDIES SECTION:

Dogs panicking, scent of some odor..., page 1

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread649618/pg1


“Oh, I don’t focus on negative things like that.” What? Blissful ignorance while everyone else , page

“Oh, I don’t focus on negative things like that.” What? Blissful ignorance while everyone else has to deal with it?

There is a new trend when it comes to being informed, and it’s a total cop-out. Any time you are asked about the news or current events, simply state that you don’t focus on negative things. It works every time! They will even feel guilty for being a pessimist, and change the subject. At least this is the tactic a lot of my friends and co-workers have been using lately. If I ask for an opinion or attempt to discuss something controversial, they’ll humor me. However, the second they realize how screwed up the implications of what I’m saying are, they throw out this argument.

No, you don’t have to watch graphic videos to know what is going on or even consider whats happening in other countries. You do need to have a general idea of what’s going on, and this doesn’t mean you are “focusing on the negatives.” In order for our society to work properly and fix itself, we need to be informed, have opinions, make decisions like voting, and turn off the TV!

So I challenge you to counter this notion, and tell your friends they are not allowed to just run and hide in their blissful cloud of ignorance, at least not while YOU are around them.

edit on 16-1-2011 by v1rtu0s0 because: (no reason given)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651843/pg1


Huge Triangular Craft Stationary over Chile 1-5-11 (update: video analysis), page 1

[THREAD HAS ABOUT 130 STARS AND 165 FLAGS—LEVELS OF APPLAUSE]

This video just went up today. It is long, but it does seem to show a huge triangular craft just hovering in the sky over a town in Chile.

As I mentioned, the video is long, but if you skip ahead to around the 9:26 mark, you will see another craft, (airplane or helicopter) come into the picture and pass it by.

Whatever this thing is, it is huge. Worth a look I think.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread647279/pg1


Middle School Student Behavior, page 1

I am a middle school building permanent substitute teacher. I am also a retired nurse. I have the opportunity to teach in many classrooms for grades 5 through 8.

While in past years the behavior of the students has been challenging, this current school year has presented challenges the likes of which none of my co-workers have ever experienced. Never before have I been faced with such disrespect, insubordination, and immature behavior. These students are defiant and they don’t seem to care and almost seem proud of their behavior. Their behavior almost serves as the focus of the classroom on some days. It is constant discipline issues. This leaves lost time for teaching. It is disruptive and unfair to those students who want to learn. There are days when I leave school totally exhausted just from the amount of discipline it takes to get through a day. These behaviors range anywhere from constant talking, to getting up out of their seats to talk to another student without permission, throwing things across the room; tipping desks, talking out of turn, laughing, yelling, arguing, throwing temper tantrums, name calling, to hitting another student. Some of this behavior is labeled ADHD.

There is protocol to follow for misbehavior. They are given verbal warnings. Sometimes the teachers change student seating to break up the “talkers”. The teacher may send an offending student to sit in the hall for a “time out”. After two or three verbal warnings, the student can be “written up” and sent to the vice principal. What follows is anywhere from a few hours in ISS (in school suspension), to OSS (out of school suspension), depending the severity of the offense. The vice principal makes phone calls to the parent (s) or guardian of the student to discuss the behavior and it’s consequences. Unfortunately, many parents either don’t care, or blame the teacher as “picking” on a particular student. If a school is cited for too many suspensions”, they are penalized by the school corporation, and worst case scenario, the vice principal could be terminated.

On any given day, the same students can be found sitting in the ISS room. They are repeat offenders. After so many OSS, the student can be brought up for expulsion, only to return the next semester of school. Again, too many suspensions or expulsions, and the school is penalized.

I fear that soon, teachers will just walk out of the classrooms; and maybe this is what needs to happen. One particular teacher, in her 30’s, is trying desperately to find different ways to manage these students behaviors. We have “lunch detention” which means that for less offensive behaviors, but still disruptive, the students are held during the first 20 minutes of their lunch, then they have 10 minutes to eat. The teacher also suspends her lunch time to oversee the lunch detention. Lately, there have been so many students on lunch detention that the hallway is filled on both sides. They are given a slip to be signed by their parent(s) that has to be returned the following day, or they receive another detention. Some do return the slips, most don’t. There have been no parental complaints about lunch detention. But again, it is usually the same students every day.

CONTINUED AT THE LINK ON ATS

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread651329/pg1



1,538 posted on 01/16/2011 9:30:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


1,539 posted on 01/16/2011 9:34:06 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: marbren; Quix

Source: Natural News: http://www.naturalnews.com/031041_animal_deaths_timeline.html

Here’s an updated timeline of the mysterious animal deaths now happening around the world. Conventional explanations for these deaths now border on the outlandish: A bird die-off event in Romania is now being blamed on “drunkenness,” for example.

Here’s the updated list through January 14, 2011, in reverse date order:

01.14.11 – 200 cows found dead in Wisconsin, allegedly caused by a virus

www.wsaw.com/news/headlines/…

01.14.11 – 100 dead carp found in U.K. pond, unknown causes

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag…

01.14.11 – 730 African grey parrots die during flight, blamed on possible exposure to carbon monoxide

www.mg.co.za/article/2011-01…

01.13.11 – 300 “grackles” birds found dead on highway in Alabama, blamed on blunt force trauma

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art…

01.11.11 – Thousands of gizzard shad fish float to the top of Lake Michigan and wash up on the shores near Chicago, blamed on cold weather
(www.hispanicallyspeakingnews…)

01.10.11 – Countless fish found dead in U.K. brook, unknown causes
(www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/…)

01.08.11 – 100 dead “starlings” birds found dead on highway in California, allegedly all hit by a truck www.pressdemocrat.com/articl…

01.08.11 – Dozens of dead “starlings” birds turn up in Romania, blamed on “drunkenness” (you can’t make this up…) arabnews.com/lifestyle/offbe…

01.07.11 – More than 1,000 dead turtle doves found in Italy, unknown causes
(www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor…)

01.06.11 – 40,000+ dead Devil crabs washed ashore in the U.K., unknown causes
(www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_…)

01.05.11 – Hundreds of dead birds found on highway in Texas, unknown causes
(www.ktre.com/global/story.as…)

01.05.11 – Large amount of dead fish wash up on New Zealand beaches, unknown causes
(www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a…)

01.05.11 – Up to 100 jackdaw birds found dead on road in Sweden, unknown causes
(www.thelocal.se/31262/20110105/)

01.04.11 – Several dead manatees found on Florida coast, unknown causes
(www.orlandosentinel.com/news…)

01.04.11 – Thousands of dead fish wash up on creek in Florida, unknown causes
(www.wftv.com/news/26367953/d…)

01.04.11 – Hundreds of dead fish was ashore on St. Clair River in Ontario, Can., unknown causes
(www.torontosun.com/news/cana…)

01.04.11 – Hundreds of dead black birds found on highway in Louisiana, suffering from internal injuries and blood clots (www.2theadvocate.com/news/11…)

01.03.11 – Dozens of dead birds show up in a woman’s backyard in Kentucky, unknown causes
(www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/loca…)

01.03.11 – Tens of thousands of dead fish wash ashore in Chesapeake Bay, Md., blamed on cold water
(www.wbaltv.com/r/26357581/de…)

01.03.11 – 100 tons of dead fish wash ashore in Brazil, unknown causes
(www.care2.com/greenliving/10…)

01.03.11 – 100,000+ dead drum fish found in Arkansas river, unknown causes
(www.todaysthv.com/news/local…)

12.31.10 – 5,000+ birds found dead in Arkansas, suffering from massive trauma and blood clots
(www.cnn.com/2011/US/01/03/ar…)

12.29.10 – Dozens of fish found dead in San Antonio, Texas, unknown causes
(www.ksat.com/news/26316464/d…)

12.28.10 – 70 bats found dead in Tucson, Ariz., unknown causes
(www.azcentral.com/news/artic…)

12.27.10 – Scores of dead fish wash ashore in a lake in Haiti, unknown causes
(www.france24.com/en/20101227…)

12.23.10 – Hundreds of dead sea creatures wash ashore in South Carolina, blamed on cold water
(www.abcnews4.com/Global/stor…)

12.23.10 – Ten tons of mostly dead fish found in fishing net in New Zealand, unknown causes
(www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/loc…)

12.22.10 – More than a hundred dead pelicans turn up in North Carolina, unknown causes
(www.carteretnewstimes.com/ar…)

12.18.10 – Thousands of dead fish turn up in bay in Philippines, unknown causes
(globalnation.inquirer.net/ce…)

12.17.10 – Dead fish wash ashore at lake beach in Indiana, blamed on winter storms
(www.wndu.com/localnews/headl…)

12.15.10 – Thousands of dead fish wash ashore on Florida beach, blamed on cold weather
(www.cfnews13.com/article/new…)

12.13.10 – Thousands of dead barramundi fish wash up in Australia, unknown causes
(www.themorningbulletin.com.a…)


1,540 posted on 01/18/2011 9:01:34 PM PST by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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