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Is NASA Covering Up the 100-Year Starship?
Fox News ^ | 10/29/2010 | Fox News

Posted on 10/29/2010 2:27:01 PM PDT by Dallas59



A NASA official may have made a 35-million-mile slip of the tongue.

The director of NASA's Ames Research Center in California casually let slip mention of the 100-Year Starship recently, a new program funded by the super-secret government agency, DARPA. In a talk at San Francisco's Long Conversation conference, Simon “Pete” Worden said DARPA has $1M to spend, plus another $100,000 from NASA itself, for the program, which will initially develop a new kind of propulsion engine that will take us to Mars or beyond.

There's only one problem: The astronauts won't come back.

The 100-year ship would leave Earth with the intention of colonizing a planet, but it would likely be a one-way trip because of the time it takes to travel 35 million miles. That’s a daunting prospect, partly because of the ethical dilemma, and partly because it may be the only recourse.

"What psychological challenges should we anticipate in those who volunteer in good faith and with great courage, yet find themselves confronting misgivings or loneliness or feelings of rage or beset with mental illness?" asked Dr. Keith Ablow, a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: coverup; nasa; starship
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1 posted on 10/29/2010 2:27:03 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

If there are no political ads on Mars, where can I sign up?


2 posted on 10/29/2010 2:29:06 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Dallas59

By the time this thing is ready they could send smart robots.


3 posted on 10/29/2010 2:30:00 PM PDT by stumptalker
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To: Dallas59

Give them a World of Warcraft account and they won’t even notice they’re on Mars.


4 posted on 10/29/2010 2:30:32 PM PDT by marron
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To: DManA

can you imagine being stuck on a starship for your entire life with your ex-wife.

*shiver*


5 posted on 10/29/2010 2:31:04 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Dallas59
DARPA has $1M to spend, plus another $100,000 from NASA itself

Which would probably buy just the toilet paper for a space mission. They are going to have to add a lot of zeros to those numbers to get anything like what is implied here.

6 posted on 10/29/2010 2:31:06 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Dallas59

100 years to travel 35 million miles? It takes just a few months to get to Mars. I think they mean nearest star.


7 posted on 10/29/2010 2:31:15 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

All my Exs live in Texas. That’s why I live on Mars.


8 posted on 10/29/2010 2:32:56 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Dallas59
for the program, which will initially develop a new kind of propulsion engine that will take us to Mars or beyond.

Whut?

If they were building a new super-secret propulsion system that could far surpass current chemical rocket designs, then it would take them about 1 week to get to Mars.

An "advanced" propulsion system that gives us the ability to make one-way trips to Mars? What are they talking about? Using squirrel farts so it takes 10x longer to get there?

9 posted on 10/29/2010 2:34:52 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Dallas59

Mars at its closest to Earth is around 55M, not 35M miles.

Must be the new Muslim math.


10 posted on 10/29/2010 2:36:09 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: Dallas59

Famed NASA Astronaut confirms Extraterrestrials are here


11 posted on 10/29/2010 2:36:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: battlecry

So sorry, that was 55M km....


12 posted on 10/29/2010 2:36:58 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: Dallas59

Can we send the DUmmies back to their home planet?


13 posted on 10/29/2010 2:37:40 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Truman: The buck stops here. Obama: Buck? What buck? Did I tell you how it's all Bush's fault?)
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To: Dallas59

Heh, and they’re hiding space aliens in area 51. When friends asked me whether I knew where to find the aliens I always told them that the aliens were hidden along the Texas border. For some reason they took a long time to catch on that I wasn’t talking about space aliens.


14 posted on 10/29/2010 2:38:18 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

My recent lying, cheating, pompous, arrogant, and more-than-mildly-sociopathic ex-girlfriend would be bad enough...


15 posted on 10/29/2010 2:39:03 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
can you imagine being stuck on a starship for your entire life with your ex-wife.

No, but I can imagine a tragic life-support accident.

/johnny

16 posted on 10/29/2010 2:39:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
This is a perfect place for fembots...




Unarmed fembots of course....
17 posted on 10/29/2010 2:39:35 PM PDT by GQuagmire (Hey now!)
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To: Free Vulcan

Don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel about her...:)


18 posted on 10/29/2010 2:40:16 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Truman: The buck stops here. Obama: Buck? What buck? Did I tell you how it's all Bush's fault?)
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To: GQuagmire
This is a perfect place for fembots...

... and home schooling! Otherwise the 100 year ship will be full of corpses for the last half of the voyage.

19 posted on 10/29/2010 2:41:36 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Dallas59

No offense, I think it probably won’t work. Too small of a group, one or two people die and there’s not enough expertise left. Too many people, greater the chances of personality clash and factions developing. Leading to deaths and we’re back to scenario one (not enough expertise left).


20 posted on 10/29/2010 2:43:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GQuagmire
That would be preferable to these three:


21 posted on 10/29/2010 2:43:55 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: Dallas59
Obama astronaut Pictures, Images and Photos

Is NASA open to candidate suggestions?

22 posted on 10/29/2010 2:44:43 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Dallas59

They’re not going to get very far on $1.1 million.


23 posted on 10/29/2010 2:45:13 PM PDT by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave - Vote Nov 2)
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To: Dallas59
Since liberals are supposed to be smarter than us let's send all of them on the one way trip.
24 posted on 10/29/2010 2:45:35 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Secret Agent Man

Didn’t Heinlein or Clark write a book about it....”The Ark” or something like it.


25 posted on 10/29/2010 2:45:56 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Dallas59
Kind of disappointing realizing this wasn't about NASA covering up a 100-year-old spaceship.

That would have been a story!

26 posted on 10/29/2010 2:47:40 PM PDT by x
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Reminds me that the New Horizons project team was partially selected on age - they had to be around (as in “not retired”) when the spacecraft whizzes by Pluto in 2015.


27 posted on 10/29/2010 2:47:54 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Dallas59

Must be some misunderstanding. Unless we KNOW that there is a habitable planet at Alpha Centauri or another nearby star, it would be a suicide mission.


28 posted on 10/29/2010 2:51:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Dallas59

Have these idiots ever heard of the moon? If you want to develop and test equipment to colonize another world, it makes sense to do it where you can rescue the test subjects if things go wrong. It’s also much easier to resupply them and change personell if needed.


29 posted on 10/29/2010 2:51:56 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Note to Leftists- We Will Bury You (politically)
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To: Dallas59

Heinlein’s Orphans of the Sky was a generation starship novel, as was Aldis’s Starship (kinda dumb US title, revealing the big secret in the title). And then there was the TV show The Starlost.

I liked the Space: 1999 episode with Joan Collins on the generation starship that suffered an accident and the survivors turned to cannibalism to survive.


30 posted on 10/29/2010 2:53:03 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist, conservative Bostonian)
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To: Dallas59
The basic idea would have to be a search of the near stars for refugees from our ancient system. People living in our system just prior to the great catastrophes would not have known if anything here would remain habitable and there is abundant evidence that many of them tried to get out.

Other than that, we can get to Mars with current technology and you'd have to assume that if Germany had won WW-II, human feet would have been on Mars again no later than around 1990.

31 posted on 10/29/2010 2:56:05 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Free Vulcan

so, we were dating the same woman I hear


32 posted on 10/29/2010 2:57:13 PM PDT by NativeSon
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To: Dallas59

“The 100-year ship would leave Earth with the intention of colonizing a planet, but it would likely be a one-way trip because of the time it takes to travel 35 million miles.”

Um, at only 1,000 mph, you can go 876,000,000 miles in 100 years. Wow “journalists” suck at math. Or at English. Or both.

Now, at “space shuttle” speed of about 17,500 mph, you’d go 15,330,000,000 miles in 100 years, or about 0.26% of a light year. The closest star is about 4 light years away, and the closest known exoplanet is about 10.5 light years away. Even ion engines used on exploratory satellites aren’t nearly fast enough to reach those, so yeah, they definitely need a faster engine than existing ones.

PS Incidentally, at “space shuttle” speed, you could reach Mars in about 5 months if you timed the launch properly with respect to the Earth’s and Mar’s orbits. Of course, the shuttle isn’t designed for that kind of trip.


33 posted on 10/29/2010 2:59:10 PM PDT by piytar (There is evil. There is no such thing as moderate evil. Never forget.)
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To: mnehring
"Which would probably buy just the toilet paper for a space mission."

Real astronauts use diapers...


34 posted on 10/29/2010 3:02:32 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Darkwolf377; Dallas59

There’s a 30 min. audio transcribed adaptation from the 1950s “X Minus One” radio show called, surprise, “Universe”.


35 posted on 10/29/2010 3:05:39 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Dallas59

Can we volunteer people for this one way mission..maybe like the entire cast of The View, Jersey Shore and the Daily Show?


36 posted on 10/29/2010 3:09:09 PM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: piytar
Wow “journalists” suck.

Just stop there and cover all the bases.

/johnny

37 posted on 10/29/2010 3:09:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dallas59

bump


38 posted on 10/29/2010 3:10:35 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Dallas59

These long distance space travels have been considered since the 1950’s by scientists and science fiction writers. Gerard O’Neill was a big advocate of them, and I remember attending a lecture of his that included multi-generational travel. I asked if “technological atrophy” in the culture would be a problem, since folks on the ship don;t have ‘real’ jobs that push their mental limits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_K._O%27Neill


39 posted on 10/29/2010 3:12:34 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Calvin Locke

“Universe” and its sequel, “Common Sense,” make up the novel Orphans in the Sky. If you enjoyed “Universe,” check out the novel, the second half works well.


40 posted on 10/29/2010 3:12:57 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist, conservative Bostonian)
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To: Dallas59
100 years to travel 35 million miles? It takes just a few months to get to Mars. I think they mean nearest star.

It might take up to 2 years to get to Mars. The mission would continue as long as the astronaut was alive, which could be 100 years. The trek would only be a small part of the mission.... maybe...

41 posted on 10/29/2010 3:13:59 PM PDT by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: The Great RJ

“Can we volunteer people for this one way mission..maybe like the entire cast of The View, Jersey Shore and the Daily Show?

I believe a sizable contingent of WH czars and staff, not to mention an ex-POTUS, will be seeking work in about 2 years.


42 posted on 10/29/2010 3:14:08 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I am pretty sure that Proxima Centuri (Alpha Centauri C) is red dwarf
that has lots of massive CMEs.

Cool, um, neato to observe, I probably wouldn't want to be any where
near it, especially on any planets.

43 posted on 10/29/2010 3:17:55 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: piytar

There is one contmeplated means of traveling between the stars that might work at present. Using a pusher plate secured to the rear of the ship you drop nuclear warheads out the back and set them off at say several minute intervals. Theoretically you could reach about 10% of the speed of light. Of course radiation is a problem and shockwave absorption.

There was a pilot for a new TV series, that didn’t get picked up a while back in 2008 maybe, where they used this type of propulsion after they had started to leave the solar system.

On a pop culture aside, I would like to see a scifi series based on near future technology. A generational ship to a distant star system, where the ship carried a small cities worth of people and stories revolved around human interaction in such a circumstance. Say a five season arch with multiple generations of characters. Please no lame excuses for leaving like global warming, the suns to hot, pollution!!! How about mankind wants to explore and colonize the universe, for adventure and profit like Christopher Columbus, Megellan.


44 posted on 10/29/2010 3:24:53 PM PDT by qman
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To: Darkwolf377

The Starlost....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMAi6u4Ps5A


45 posted on 10/29/2010 3:26:59 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: GQuagmire

Does anyone here remember how Harcourt Fenton Mudd dealt with his space bride?


46 posted on 10/29/2010 3:29:32 PM PDT by printhead
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To: DManA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxteYKGGcV0


47 posted on 10/29/2010 3:34:04 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Snickering Hound

You mean he might actualy end up doing something positive with his life?


48 posted on 10/29/2010 3:35:59 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: Dallas59

"The historical records indicate that your elapsed time calculation is in error."

49 posted on 10/29/2010 3:38:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Dallas59

Imagine one Muslim on the crew.

By the time they get to Mars, either everyone has converted, or all but one crew member has had their throats slit.

That’s 0bama’s “Muslim outreach” in action.


50 posted on 10/29/2010 3:39:20 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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