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Posted on 11/02/2010 10:48:58 AM PDT by djf

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To: djf
Another radio question -

Is it kosher for a Jew to operate a ham radio?

41 posted on 11/02/2010 11:36:27 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: djf
20 amps? Really?

Well, I may have been exaggerating just a little. 20 amps would probably be a sort of "high-side" estimate.

42 posted on 11/02/2010 11:40:20 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: djf

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43 posted on 11/02/2010 11:45:41 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Raven6; djf

Another great brand of antique headphones was Brandes and they are common to find. In my experience, the old phones produce much better fidelity and louder sound on strong local stations, but are not as sensitive to faint stations as the cheapo piezo earpieces. When I had better hearing, I could pull in stations hundreds of miles away. In fact, I had a crystal set tuned to the low end of the shortwave band and heard stations in Europe.

The name of the game is experimentation. The single coil sets tend to be louder, but tune poorly. Multi-coil sets tune better, but often are not as loud. Try different lengths of antennas, mounted high and low. Drive a copper rod into the ground as far as you can and then water the ground around it until the ground is really soaked.


44 posted on 11/02/2010 11:49:24 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: djf

When I was a kid, my dad ran wire all the way around the house under the eaves for my antenna. I would say you need a better antenna or get it up high.


45 posted on 11/02/2010 11:56:20 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: djf
Are you logged in?

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46 posted on 11/02/2010 11:57:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: djf

You should probably be using a germanium rather than a silicon diode (e.g. 1N34)


47 posted on 11/02/2010 11:58:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: Steely Tom; djf
Loss is loss. The relative amount of loss is proportional to the surface area available for conduction. Using heavier wire will increase the surface area and lessen resistance at RF, actually more dramatically than it will at DC or low frequencies like 60 Hz. The issue isn't power handling capability, it's signal loss. You want more of the incident signal vibrating the speakers and less of it “heating” the coil. It is not uncommon for receivers to use LG6/UL to minimize loss, even though the signal level is less than a billionth of a Watt.
48 posted on 11/02/2010 12:04:06 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (If not Boston, then Texas. Go Rangers!)
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To: Fresh Wind

The kit calls it a Shottky diode. Not sure if that’s germanium or silicon.


49 posted on 11/02/2010 12:04:37 PM PDT by djf (The word "concise" is too big!)
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To: djf
(RF engineer here)

I agree with others who suggest a good ground. In modern houses, the cold water pipe does not usually go to ground. Instead, look right under your electric meter or gas meter outside. There should be a ground rod there you can connect on to.

Why is ground important at these low frequencies? Because your wire antenna, as long as it is, is really only half an antenna. The other half is made up by ground. The wavelength is really long on the AM band (>160 meters).

50 posted on 11/02/2010 12:09:44 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer
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To: Doogle

“Unless you’re in a city, the best time for listening is after sundown. AM wave propagation gets better as the night wears on.”

AM stations now have to reduce power from sunset to sunrise. AM radio becomes a ghost town after sunset, even in the city many stations become unlistenable.


51 posted on 11/02/2010 12:11:07 PM PDT by FreedomGuru
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To: djf

They’re silicon, but have very low forward voltage drop (generally better than germanium and much better than standard silicon diodes). That should be fine for a crystal set.


52 posted on 11/02/2010 12:12:47 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: djf

Crystal Set Society:
http://www.midnightscience.com/


53 posted on 11/02/2010 12:14:43 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: djf
The kit calls it a Shottky diode. Not sure if that’s germanium or silicon.

That's silicon. It is difficult to construct a reliable Schottky diode (metal-semiconductor junction) on germanium, because metal vapor deposition doesn't work that well on Ge. Anyway, a good Schottky is almost a good a choice as germanium, because the forward voltages are both under 0.5 volts. I've measured silicon Schottky diodes at under 0.4V at low currents like you're likely to experience in your crystal radio.

54 posted on 11/02/2010 12:17:04 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer
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To: 1066AD

Thanks! Good links.

I’m very interested in the formulas and calculations. Trying to calculate the inductance, capacitance, etc.
Seeing what happens if I add more coils. Different insulating materials on the capacitor. That sort of thing.


55 posted on 11/02/2010 12:21:44 PM PDT by djf (The word "concise" is too big!)
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To: steve86

Self-ping for later


56 posted on 11/02/2010 12:25:31 PM PDT by steve86
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To: backwoods-engineer

I’m going to be putting in a ground for a shortwave dx antenna in the next couple of weeks. Is it necessary that the wire between the antenna ground terminal and the actual ground is extremely low impedence/resistance? What type of wire would you suggest for a 15-ft run to a ground rod?


57 posted on 11/02/2010 12:30:05 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Diogenesis; djf
No. It will change the frequency.
Add a ground.

Dittos.

On the ground, preferably make a good connection to a ground rod driven into the earth. Sometimes wall socket grounds aren't all they should be, and with plastic pipes tthe water pipe isn't so great either.

You can buy the ground rod at a hardware store.

The idea of the coil and capacitor is to create a resonant circut. Changing the coil (more turns) will change the frequency away from the AM band.

The added ground is a much better idea.

58 posted on 11/02/2010 1:41:53 PM PDT by jimt
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To: steve86

“What type of wire would you suggest for a 15-ft run to a ground rod?”

For SW DX it is not critical at all. Multi-strand wire like a lamp cord or speaker wire or a single-strand solid copper wire will work fine. Just make sure both the wire and rod are clean and bright metal when you make a connection. You could use a clamp to fasten them together or even solder the wire to the rod.


59 posted on 11/02/2010 1:53:22 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic
Trimm brand headphones were made for use with xtal sets - very high impedance

photo here

60 posted on 11/02/2010 2:16:24 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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