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Recollections of John Lennon's Assassination (30 year anniversary today)

Posted on 12/08/2010 6:53:25 PM PST by SamAdams76

Not exactly in the league of Pearl Harbor and 9/11, or even the JFK assassination, but for those who are old enough to remember, it was a pretty big deal when John Lennon was assassinated in New York City exactly 30 years ago today, on December 8, 1980.

So I thought I'd put a post out there to see if anybody has any thoughts from that day, how they learned about it and how they felt about John Lennon and his music at the time and more importantly, how they feel about him today now that we have had 30 years to get older and wiser.

Not all Freepers were smart enough to be conservative their entire adult lives and I have no problem stating that I am one of those who started my adult life ignorant, stupid...and liberal to the core.

Not that it was all my fault. I was born and raised in Massachusetts just a few miles from JFK's birthplace in Brookline. Therefore I was raised to believe that Republicans were evil and if you didn't have the obligatory portrait of JFK hanging on your living room wall (usually over the fireplace), you were suspect.

Well anyway, I remember very clearly what I was doing on December 8, 1980 as it was a time of great transition for me and my conversion to a rock-solid conservative was just beginning to take root (but would still take several more years to complete).

I was 18 years old and working as a dishwasher at a local restaurant. I had graduated high school the previous spring and had enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. However, I delayed my entry into boot camp so that I could have some "partying" time now that I was finally out of school. My report date to Parris Island was still over two months away (February 10, 1981).

The night of December 8th, I was watching Monday Night Football as my New England Patriots were playing the Miami Dolphins. Now this was way before Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and so the New England teams were typically awful during that era, but this particular year, they had a winning record and were still in contention for the playoffs at the time of this game.

Late in the game, Howard Cosell made the announcement about John Lennon. I will never forget the shivers that ran up my spine as he told about how he was shot, rushed to the hospital and then pronounced dead-on-arrival in his characteristic deadpan style.

I immediately forgot about the game (Pats ended up losing anyhow), turned off the TV and turned on my radio, which already was playing nothing but Beatles and Lennon records up and down the dial. Remember that this was before 24-hr cable news stations so the only way to get breaking news was to turn on your radio.

Now I was too young to remember The Beatles when they were still together and in their prime but as I came of age in the 1970s, you couldn't escape being exposed to their music, which was still in heavy rotation on most rock stations. So I was a big fan of their music and always harbored hope that they would get back together again as a group now that I was old enough to appreciate it.

Obviously the assassination dashed that dream forever and over the next few days, I listened to tribute after tribute come over the radio. Almost every rock station out of Boston pretty much dedicated the next several days to nothing but Beatles/Lennon music, tributes and documentaries. It was almost a full week before they went back to regular programming.

Looking back at those times 30 years later, it is almost like I was a different person in a totally different life. Having gained three decades of maturity and wisdom, I wonder what I ever saw in John Lennon and how I could have been so stupid to think he was some kind of saint or messiah.

Before writing this post, I looked at some of his 1970s era interviews on YouTube and he comes across to me now as a long-haired doper without a clue, unable to speak even a coherent sentence. Well, not too unlike many of our entertainers today, that think their stardom gives them special insight on how the world should be run (and with whom our young people put so much stock in).

I also find Yoko Ono even more despicable. During most of those post-Beatle years, she was always pretty much up his butt, controlling his entire life. What he saw in that woman, I'll never know. During my YouTube session, I saw video of her (and John) standing proudly next to a poster that accused the United States of having committed Holocaust on a scale worse than Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia (in Vietnam). Now that is pure evil right there.

As anti-American as John Lennon was in those days, he certainly had no desire to leave our country and in fact, fought for years to stay here despite efforts by our immigration department to deport him. And despite all the phoney-baloney lyrics that made him such a liberal icon (such as "Imagine"), he lived in the most exclusive area of New York and traveled by limousine and private jet.

Yet 30 years ago, John Lennon was a hero to me and here, on the 30th anniversary of his death, I find it hard to reconcile the person I am today with the person I was 30 years ago.

As I mentioned earlier in this post, my conversion to conservatism was just starting to take root in December of 1980. Ronald Reagan had just been elected president and while I cast my vote for John Anderson that year (the first election I was old enough to vote), I was secretly glad that Reagan won instead of Carter, but still did not have the self-confidence to say so to my friends and family. I was just a few months away from becoming a US Marine, which would accelerate my political conversion all the more.

In closing, while I now despise the man John Lennon was and especially what he represented, I am still sad that he died at the hands of a demented assassin. He certainly did not deserve to go out that way. On the other hand, he also did not merit being the martyr that people made him out to be post-assassination.

December 1980 was definitely a turning point in my life and this anniversary definitely brought back some memories...


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To: Revolting cat!

Wellll, he’s no Eric Clapner.


101 posted on 12/09/2010 8:33:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: SamAdams76
I also find Yoko Ono even more despicable. During most of those post-Beatle years, she was always pretty much up his butt, controlling his entire life. What he saw in that woman, I'll never know. During my YouTube session, I saw video of her (and John) standing proudly next to a poster that accused the United States of having committed Holocaust on a scale worse than Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia (in Vietnam). Now that is pure evil right there.

Yes, she is an opportunist and quite offensive at times.

She declared that woman is the n***er of the world. Never mind that just isn't so or that it is racially insensitive to make such a remark.

John was already splitting off from Yoko and had an affair. He'd been married to Cynthia before that. I don't believe that 30 years later they would still have been together. And to think, her first target was to scope out Paul (who brushed her off on John).

She was in a movie before she became an "artist", it's called Satan's Bed and was a 60s "adults only" exploitation film.

She was also in the concert/documentary Tonight Let's All Make Love In London which filmed Pink Floyd's perfomance at the 14 Hour Technicolor Dream event. Yoko was a peformance artist cutting away at a woman's clothing and John can be seen in the crowd at this concert. Later he would meet her at a gallery installation.

102 posted on 12/09/2010 8:40:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: SamAdams76

And John played the persecuted victim (the US government worked to deny him residency) but he acknowledged his involvement in a plot to spike Richard Nixon’s coffee with a heavy dose of LSD (Grace Slick visited the White House once and tried the same sabotage on Nixon).

Lennon’s own heroin abuse gets glossed over. The man did hard drugs.

And for all of his talk of peace, he and Yoko couldn’t put aside their differences with Paul McCartney much (John and Paul did get back together a couple nights in a studio in 1975 with Harry Nilsson and others).


103 posted on 12/09/2010 8:45:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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PING


104 posted on 12/09/2010 8:47:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: SamAdams76

As everyone is remembering John Lennon with tears let’s remember what he thought about the men and women of the UK armed services, specifically the WW II vets.
On receiving his MBE Order of the British Empire honor he justified it saying: “Lots of people who complained about us receiving the MBE received theirs for heroism in the war – for killing people.” “We received ours for entertaining other people. I’d say we deserve ours more.”

What a guy John!


105 posted on 12/09/2010 12:34:33 PM PST by HarryCrowel
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Not exactly in the league of Pearl Harbor and 9/11, or even the JFK assassination, but for those who are old enough to remember, it was a pretty big deal when John Lennon was assassinated in New York City exactly 30 years ago today, on December 8, 1980.
Nice to think about how young I was at the time, didn't seem like it then. :') I want those years over! Thanks SamAdams76.


106 posted on 12/09/2010 4:33:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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