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LIMITATIONS ON AID BILL ARE FORECAST AS LEADERS CONFER WITH PRESIDENT (1/28/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 1/28/41 | Turner Catledge

Posted on 01/28/2011 4:53:25 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
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1 posted on 01/28/2011 4:53:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
North Africa, 1940: Graziani’s Advance and Wavell’s Offensive, 13 September 1940-7 February 1941 (Map 34a)
Marcks’ Plan, August 5, 1940
Operation Barbarossa (Dir. 21), December 18, 1940
The Mediterranean Basin (Map 33)
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939
2 posted on 01/28/2011 4:54:11 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

3 posted on 01/28/2011 4:54:42 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Here are the last of the Billboard Top Ten best selling records for the week of January 25, 1941.

#3 is “I Hear a Rhapsody,” by Jimmy Dorsey, with Bob Eberly on vocals. I couldn’t find a recording of that to link to. The good news is did find a link to -

#2 – “I hear a Rhapsody.” This version is by Charlie Barnet and Bob Carroll. It is not unusual to see different versions of the same song on the best seller lists in that era. Finally,

#1 – The Artie Shaw blockbuster “Frenesi.” This was one of the biggest songs of 1940 and still has legs in the new year. It has been #1 every week so far in January and will remain at the top spot into March.

4 posted on 01/28/2011 4:56:10 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Changes Discussed – 2-3
Fiscal Year Outlay Tops Six Billion Dollar Mark – 3
The International Situation – 3
Influenza Vaccine Lost in Sea War – 4
Hints Earl of Erroll was Murder Victim – 4
Texts of Day’s War Communiques – 5
5 posted on 01/28/2011 4:57:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/jan41/f28jan41.htm

British submarine mines Italian waters

Tuesday, January 28, 1941 www.onwar.com

In the Mediterranean... The British submarine Rorqual lays mines off the Adriatic coastal port of Ancona, Italy.


6 posted on 01/28/2011 5:17:15 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/28.htm

January 28th, 1941

UNITED KINGDOM: Westminster: In the House of Commons tonight, Herbert Morrison, the Home Secretary and Minister of Home Security, was given the overwhelming backing of MPs for his decision to shut down the Daily Worker, the newspaper of the Communist Party of Great Britain, because its anti-war stance was subversive and calculated to help the enemy.
Morrison, whose war responsibilities include censorship and the detention of potential enemies of the state, said the paper had conducted a sustained campaign of vilification, telling people that they were being killed and injured in enemy air-raids because the government wanted to make big profits for capitalists and imperialists. It was “cruel and cynical, sheer snivelling hypocrisy” to preach defeatism to people who were enduring great hardship.

Aneurin Bevan, the left-wing Labour MP, said that although he detested the Daily Worker’s propaganda, he believed the ban did a disservice to the cause of freedom. Despite his plea, MPs voted 297 to 11 to back the Home Secretary.

Corvettes HMS Mignonette and Myosotis launched.
Submarine HMS P-33 launched.

Destroyer HMS Pakenham launched.

Submarine HMS Urchin commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

GERMANY: Hitler orders that the entry into Bulgaria must be delayed until the last possible moment.

U-411 laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

ITALY: The British submarine HMS Rorqual lays mines off the Adriatic coastal port of Ancona. (Jack McKillop)

LIBYA: Bad going, heavy rain, numerous mechanical breakdowns and a shortage of petrol have brought the advancing troops of O’Connor’s force to a halt, allowing the Italians under General Babini to escape from Mechili.

ALASKA: A survey of the eight proposed radar sites in Alaska determines that only three are acceptable and additional surveys are required for the other five. Continuing an effort to increase the defence of the territory, U.S. Secretary of War Henry Stimson approves the establishment of 12 radar stations. (Jack McKillop)

CANADA:

Minesweeper HMCS Courtenay laid down Prince Rupert, British Columbia.
Minesweeper HMCS Georgian launched Toronto, Ontario. (Dave Shirlaw)

ATLANTIC OCEAN: Scharnhorst and Gneisenau sight the British cruiser Naiad in the Iceland-Faroe strait and turn around. (Navy News)


7 posted on 01/28/2011 5:19:20 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://worldwar2daybyday.blogspot.com/

Day 516 January 28, 1941

At 6.49 AM, British cruiser HMS Naiad (part of Admiral Tovey’s task force searching for Scharnhorst and Gneisenau) spots the German warships in the Iceland-Faroes passage, heading for the Atlantic. Under strict orders not to engage superior British forces, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau turn around to go North of Iceland through the Denmark Strait.

Operation Compass. Italian artillery on top of Wadi Derna keep Australian 6th Division pinned down outside the coastal town of Derna, 100 miles Northwest of Tobruk.

250 miles West of Ireland, Italian submarine Luigi Torelli sinks British SS Urla (all 42 crew rescued). In the same area, British corvette HMS Bluebell and destroyer HMS Westcott collide (HMS Bluebell under repair at Liverpool until March 4).

Off Cape Bon, Tunisia, British submarine HMS Upholder damages German steamer Duisberg, which is towed into Tripoli and repaired. Italian torpedo boat Orione, carrying survivors from steamer Ingo, stands by.


8 posted on 01/28/2011 5:21:02 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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“America First Committee”

Got this tidbit from wikipedia

Started in 1940, it became defunct after the attack upon Pearl Harbor in December 1941. Recent organizations with similar names are not in any way connected to this historic group.

9 posted on 01/28/2011 6:27:38 AM PST by Tank-FL (Keep the Faith - Congratulations - Albert - your Old Corps Now!-)
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I was trying to figure out who this Colonel Theodore Roosevelt is, but cant really find much on him. It doesn’t appear he is related to the current President or the former one either.


10 posted on 01/28/2011 7:13:20 AM PST by CougarGA7 (GET OFF MY LAWN!!)
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Col. Theodore Roosevelt was the son of President Theodore Roosevelt, and thus distant cousin of FDR. Promoted to Brigadier General, he went ashore on D-Day and died a month later of a heart attack. Portrayed by Henry Fonda in "The Longest Day" movie.

Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.
""Roosevelt would be the only general on D-Day to land by sea with the first wave of troops...

""...Theodore Roosevelt, Sr., and Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., are one of only two sets of fathers and sons to have been awarded the Medal of Honor. The other set is Arthur and Douglas MacArthur.""


11 posted on 01/28/2011 7:48:08 AM PST by iowamark
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No, from what I can tell this is not Teddy Roosevelt Jr. This is a different one than the one who served with II Corps in North Africa and then onto France. That’s why I’m having trouble locking down if this guy is of any significance.


12 posted on 01/28/2011 8:42:36 AM PST by CougarGA7 (GET OFF MY LAWN!!)
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And just for the record, Teddy and Teddy Jr were the only father son pairing to LEGITIMATELY receive the Congressional Medal of Honor. Doug’s was a complete sham.


13 posted on 01/28/2011 8:47:33 AM PST by CougarGA7 (GET OFF MY LAWN!!)
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It took some real digging, but it turns out this is indeed Theodore Roosevelt Jr. Finding his connection with the America First Committee is difficult and seems to be somewhat buried. But here's what I found:

When war broke out in Europe, Ted's older sister, Alice Roosevelt, wife of Congressman Nicholas Longworth, helped organize and found the America First Committee. Rallies were held across the country with Ted Roosevelt, second only to Charles Lindbergh, as a favorite speaker. Advocating neutrality was a paradoxical role for the children of Theodore Roosevelt and it would not last long. Kermit maintained the tradition of early involvement by joining British forces in 1939, already at war with Hitler, two years before the attack on Pearl Harbor. Ted asked to be reactivated and was assigned to his old 26th Infantry. Four days after the Japanese attack, FDR promoted him to brigadier general. - All the Presidents' Children by Doug Wead

Interesting, and I didn't know that General Roosevelt had these America First connections. Also of interest was that Ted and his younger brother Kermit were the first Westerners to confirm the existence of the Giant Panda.

14 posted on 01/28/2011 9:11:05 AM PST by CougarGA7 (GET OFF MY LAWN!!)
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Sorry, a day late with this one:

On Jan 27th, 1941 Ambassador Grew telegraphed from Tokyo:"A member of the Embassy was told by my . . . colleague that from many quarters, including a Japanese one, he had heard a surprise mass attack on Pearl Harbor was planned by the Japanese military forces, in case of `trouble' between Japan and the United States; that the attack would involve the use of all the Japanese military facilities. My colleague said that he was prompted to pass this on because it had come to him from many, sources, although the plan seemed fantastic"

15 posted on 01/28/2011 10:12:40 AM PST by Larry381 (Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare)
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The "Tafleburg" was a ship that ran aground in Whitmore Bay in Barry Island in south Wales on 28 January 1941. The Whale Factory Ship struck a mine in the channel and was beached to the West of Cold Knap Point. On 28 March she was refloated and moved to Whitmore Bay. She landed on a sand bar and broke into 2 sections. She was later repaired.
16 posted on 01/28/2011 10:23:10 AM PST by Larry381 (Sentio aliquos togatos contra me conspirare)
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To: CougarGA7

Porbably refers to TR’s son, Deputy CG of 1st ID with Terry de la Mesa Allen Div CG. Both rain afoul of Omar Bradley in Sicily. Roosevelt landed on the beaches with another unit on D-Day, where he died, either then, or shortly after.


17 posted on 01/28/2011 10:34:21 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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". . . My colleague said that he was prompted to pass this on because it had come to him from many, sources, although the plan seemed fantastic"

The plan was indeed fantastic. This rumor appears to have originated from a source other than Yamamoto. Another officer high in Japanese naval aviation proposed using land-based six or eight engined bombers to strike Pearl Harbor. The U.S. Navy decided that, based on available intelligence no such strike was planned or imminent. Which was true at that time. (See reply #4 on yesterday's thread.)

18 posted on 01/28/2011 11:02:32 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: CougarGA7

Remember that the Teddy Roosevelt’s family was Republican and never supported FDR politically. They did generally remain on social terms with their first cousin Eleanor Roosevelt. The one exception was Alice Roosevelt Longworth, who was barred from the FDR White House because of her malicious gossip.

Regarding the America First Committee, they were very much mainstream and respectable. Charles Lindbergh, with his Nazi sympathies, was the exception, not the rule. America First was led by retired General Robert Wood, the chairman of Sears, then the nation’s largest retailer. Members included future Presidents JFK and Gerald Ford.


19 posted on 01/28/2011 11:07:36 AM PST by iowamark
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To: CougarGA7

you like to dig up stuff —


20 posted on 01/28/2011 11:54:26 AM PST by Tank-FL (Keep the Faith - Congratulations - Albert - your Old Corps Now!-)
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