Posted on 04/28/2011 7:03:12 AM PDT by bjorn14
The real reason Øbama released his LFBC was not because of the noise created by Donald Trump or a rowdy bunch of FReepers (although I'd like to believe we had something to do with) The real reason he released the document is because the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals will hear 20 minutes (each side)of oral arguments in the case of Wiley Drake, et al v. Barack Obama, et al on Monday, May 2, 2011 in Pasadena, CA.
The case's primary claim is that (and as many fellow FReepers have) he is ineligible because his father was a British national at the time of his birth and thus in not an NBC. So he needed to give some cover to the 9th Circuit.
I hope that's what the plaintiffs push for is getting the court to rule on what constitutes NBC status. Even if they rule wrongly the case can at least be appealed to the USSC.
you are absolutely correct what a great post
I don’t buy this argument. She was a NBC regardless of her age. Are you sure that doesn’t just apply to naturalized citizens or citizens born outside America? If real, it is truly unjust.
Which can then decline without comment to hear the case, as they've done with every eligibility challenge so far that's made it to them.
Apologies for my pessimism on getting a meaningful ruling.
That’s what the Nationality Act of |952 says although I believe it was from the age of 14 (still too young) for her to solely pass on even “native” born status to Lil’ Barry.
No apologies needed. It depends how the 9th rules in its rejection or :-o acceptance (because I’m sure it will be appealed either way). My hope is that the USSC sees that there is no clearly defined definition of NBC and thus there ruling becomes law save a Contitutional Ammendment. In any case I’m not holding my breath....just praying.
Thanks for your input. I looked it up &, according to what I read, it was The Immigration & Nationality Act. If applied solely in the context of immigration it makes sense. We will have to disagree on interpretation because I still don’t buy it in Stanley Ann’s case. However, it sounds like a practical law that might be beneficial in these times. Yes, I know it could never be............
That’s the way the data base in Hawaii is set up. The output is simply a print job that’s been run through something like PhotoShop to fit it to one or another standard print formats ~ so it’ll look like the original document!
It only applied to foreign-born children. This law means nothing as Obama was born in Hawaii.
If she was out of the country before he was born, then Barry has a problem. It appears she went with her family from Washington to Hawaii right after she graduated high school. Putting her around 17 years old and Hawaii was a state by then.
If, and I repeat if, the above time-line is true, and the form released is real, then he is a NBC under the laws in force at the time of his birth.
One can argue that Obama has waived his right to privacy by releasing this information. If so, then we should do the following:
1) Publicly ask Obama to waive access to the information, since he has already publicly released it.
2) People can now request uncertified copies from the Hawaii Department of Health, now that the document has been made public (let's see if the office can reproduce the document).
3) The hospital no longer can hide behind the excuse of privacy because hospital information (including the doctor) has been released by Obama. They should now release corroborating information, such as shift reports or billing records.
If the document is real, the Hawaii Dept. of Health should have no problem turning out additional copies to those who pay the fee for one, now that it is public domain knowledge.
-PJ
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