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JimRob's Imperious Pronouncement (Vanity)
Friday, May 21, 2011 | Dr. Zzyzx

Posted on 05/27/2011 10:36:25 AM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx

Freeper Friends,

I was saddened by JimRob's imperious pronouncement yesterday, and the ensuing comments & zots. Here's why. One of this site's primary pillars is the Bill of Rights which calls for Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Right to a trial by jury. We believe in those things. We believe in them to the point of being willing to sacrifice our lives for them. And yet on this site, when a JimRob cuts people off for what they say or believe Freepers cheer him like Baghdad Bob would cheer Saddam Hussein! That's not America folks!

"He owns the site!" you say. Tell that to Steven Jobs who got dumped a few years ago from the company he started because he created an IPO to get financial support from others. Once JimRob started taking YOUR money, it became YOUR site. YOU provide the content, YOU provide the financing. Without YOU, Jim would be a lonely guy staring at a monitor in his den.

How can we say we want freedoms out one side of our mouths, and stand by and cheer as Jim zots dissenters in a way that would make medieval Europe's most dictatorial tyrants proud?

John Stuart Mill had the right approach--let all the ideas fight it out in the arena. If they're foolish ideas, they will eventually be seen as such. We don't have anything to fear from hearing someone else's point of view.

Now. In case you're wondering:

My membership date is actually one and a half years earlier than the November 1999 date shown. (Had to re-enlist because of computer and email trouble)

I was raised in Arizona but live in Utah. I fly the Arizona flag on my profile because I'm proud of their stance on immigration.

I’ve told anyone that will listen that I think Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are shifty weasels.

I served on the city council and as the mayor of my community.

I played a part in the grassroots effort to throw Bob Bennett out of office, and hope soon to do the same to Orrin Hatch.

I waged a pitched battle in the newspapers and amongst my fellow teachers against the president, officers, and organization of the Utah Education Association, an arm of the NEA.

I became disenchanted with the Republican party after some of the things George Bush (though I admire his courage and determination) did that I felt were harmful to the financial well-being of America.

In other words, I'm not a newbie troll. I just have a genuine concern with how members are treated here, and you should too.

To save you the electrons of posting replies, I'll post them for you:

Jim owns the site, he can do what he wants.

ZOT!

Put on your asbestos suit.

Put on your tin foil hat.

Viking Kitties!

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!

A cheese-eating moose bit my sister.


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: buhbye; freelazamataz; ibtz; opus; waaambulancer; zot
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To: Hulka

But is it hugh?


161 posted on 05/27/2011 1:23:51 PM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: TheOldLady
;-P

:-D

162 posted on 05/27/2011 1:25:00 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; TheOldLady
That's nothing! I own Busch Gardens, First Landing State Park, Farm Fresh and Colonial Williamsburg!!

...by that logic, I own the entire Fricking GOVERNMENT!

...I want a refund...

Cheers!

163 posted on 05/27/2011 1:26:47 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I just skimmed both threads..Now the Guiliani’s gonna enter the race, and actually, is leading in one poll...well..it’ll be interesting aroudn here. Remember when all the Rudy supporters got sent packing?


164 posted on 05/27/2011 1:30:23 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: ken5050

Cheers!

165 posted on 05/27/2011 1:36:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rzn_republicans

That zot had to hurt!


166 posted on 05/27/2011 1:37:20 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Avoid arguments with your wife about lifting the toilet seat by simply using the sink.)
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To: ken5050

Now the Guiliani’s gonna enter the race, and actually, is leading in one poll


This is beginning to become the biggest sideshow in town it seems.

Guiliani, Pataki and Perry all making noise. I wonder who will be next?


167 posted on 05/27/2011 1:39:04 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport

You know, if the GOP has about 50 candidates, they could say it’s their “jobs program”


168 posted on 05/27/2011 1:41:29 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: La Lydia
2) Large groups of people cannot peaceably assemble, for instance, on the pitcher's mound during the 5th inning of the last game of the World Series just because they feel like it.

well, now....it might depend on who is playing....

:) good post.

169 posted on 05/27/2011 1:41:55 PM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: MHGinTN; Dr. Zzyzx

Might I ask what particular zotting situation was upsetting?


170 posted on 05/27/2011 1:45:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: grey_whiskers; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Yes, all of us who pay taxes own the government, and we all want refunds at this point.

I like your posts, grey_whiskers.


171 posted on 05/27/2011 1:50:02 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: rob777

Well, Mr Rob, FR does not claim to be a liberal debating society. We are conservative activists fighting for our God-given unalienable rights. We already know where we stand on these issues. We don’t retreat, we reload. Our God-given unalienable rights are not subject to debate, negotiation, compromise or surrender. Those who wish to entertain sodomites, abortionists and big government statists are certainly free to do so... elsewhere. Take it or leave it. I have no intention to change.


172 posted on 05/27/2011 2:03:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

Well, bye.


173 posted on 05/27/2011 2:04:10 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Once JimRob started taking YOUR money, it became YOUR site.

By that same "logic," I am the happy owner of numerous Taco Bells.

So I'm a part owner of Steak and Shake? That's sooooo cool.

174 posted on 05/27/2011 2:11:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Over 170 responses to your ill-conceived vanity ... you're still here (but you induced Laz' suspension) ... and yet no response, defense, anything?!


Well .... we're waiting!

175 posted on 05/27/2011 2:11:38 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: grey_whiskers
It does matter a lot, not that I agree with you, but why do you libertarians and liberals always choose Luciferian rebellion and couch it in the language of intellectual superiority?

And why do you autofellating libertarian moonbats always defend yourself by insisting (with liberals) that all opposition to you is rooted in either fear or hatred?

WELL SAID! And funny!! You're a genius.

176 posted on 05/27/2011 2:27:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jim Robinson
The question is which is a more effective way of "fighting for our God-given unalienable rights"? Confining our conversations to an "amen corner" who already agree with us, or engaging in debate with those who do not? It is not a matter of "entertaining" those who hold such views, but engaging them in an argument. As it stands, a poster does not even have to hold such positions to get zotted, but merely to say positive things about a candidate who does hold to some of these views.

As for expecting this to change, where have I ever expressed such expectations? I have learned to live with it.
177 posted on 05/27/2011 2:30:28 PM PDT by rob777
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To: Cyber Liberty
Looks like Laz got the zot again.

Is outrage. After letting his name be shamelessly platered all over the board in the last Freepathon!

Tag change

178 posted on 05/27/2011 2:33:27 PM PDT by don-o (Free Lazamataz!)
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To: rob777

Look, I’m not going to argue with you about this. If FR is not your cup of tea, just leave. Thanks!


179 posted on 05/27/2011 2:35:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

Here ya go:

http://excoboard.com/

Start your own site.

Have fun!


180 posted on 05/27/2011 2:36:56 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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