Cut down on 'carbs' to reduce body fat, study authors say (diabetes?)

The Endocrine Society ^ | June 5, 2011 | Unknown

[PA Engineer]

Now you are outright lying. You first posted a quack. When I pointed this out you diverted away to Dr. Cully.

Dr. McCully was one of the physicians who led the charge for treatment of homocysteine with folic acid, B6 and B12.

Even you own "diversionary" post contradicts your quack doctor passwater and you on "chickens" causing elevated homocysteine levels.

Ok dude. You can keep up with ad hominem attacks now. That is all you have.

[Sprite518]

Hey “Dude” you need help if you are over twenty. I suspect you are a teenager.

At any rate, do me a favor and NEVER reply to me again.

[neverdem]

FReepmail me if you want on or off the diabetes ping list.

Thanks decimon.

[metmom]

It’s the wheat.

I HAD to switch to oats from wheat due to food reactions and the weight just fell off and I actually increased how much I was eating.

Every time before that that I tried a lower carb diet, it never worked until I cut the wheat out. I ate everything else I wanted and still lost weight.

[metmom]

The downfall with the high carb diets is that it boosts your insulin levels.

Any extra sugars that your body doesn’t need or use gets converted to fat by the insulin.

I was shocked when I learned that. I couldn’t believe it at first but have read it in several places.

That’s why putting diabetics on high carb diets and then boosting their insulin to meet the demand is going to fail. Whoever thought that giving diabetics lots of carbs was a good idea in the first place .........

[metmom]

People just aren’t going to go on that kind of restrictive diet and stay on it.

For one thing, fat in your food is what satiates you.

A better way to manage the diet is to eat your protein and vegetables first, then fruits, and THEN the high carb foods last when you’re pretty full anyway. That way you’ll automatically limit how much you eat.

If you eat the carbs first, you’ll way overdo what you need.

So a 150 pound person is supposed to drink 75 POUNDS of water a day? At 8.33 pounds per gallon, you’re saying about nine gallons of water a day.

You’d kill yourself.

[metmom]

I cut out wheat and replaced it with oats and my weight dropped like a rock, as did my cholesterol and my BP, which was edging up, is down to its youthful mid-20’s range again.

[metmom]

Eat less exercise more - works every time it’s been tried. The dirty little secret I think about weight loss is that it hurts - you *will* feel hungry off and on. Deal with it.

No it doesn't. I tried that and about walked my feet off for a whole summer and only dropped 4 pounds.

It wasn't until I eliminated the wheat that the weight fell off effortlessly, without the exercise.

It's not necessarily how much you eat as what you eat.

[irishtenor]

See my tagline...

[irishtenor]

MEAT! And more MEAT!

[raygun]

http://www.dlife.com/dlife_media/diabetes_slideshows/7-best-weight-loss-tips?utm_source=dLife&utm_medium=dLifeWebSite&utm_content=HomePageFlipper&utm_campaign=HPFlash-WeightLossTips

BTW: very good recipes there (very healthy for non-diabetics) and yummy too. The deserts are positively scrumptioous.

[PA Engineer]

No it doesn't. I tried that and about walked my feet off for a whole summer and only dropped 4 pounds.

You are correct. All the exercise in the world will not reverse Metabolic Syndrome unless the underlying diet changes.

I have had a few years to look at the calories I'm burning. When doing a complete swim workout (heavy on anaerobic sets) for about 1.5 hours, the most I burn is 400 calories, period and can do no better.

By reducing carbohydrates (sugars) to very low levels (ketogenic), I burn excess fat calories at a rate of 800 to a 1000 per day without hunger. I have to watch my weight and eat accordingly. If I have to increase my carbs (still low intake) and fats for a few days that is what it takes to stay at my ideal weight.

I have watched for almost a decade the grudging acceptance of Dr. Atkins. I am weighting for the day when the ADA finally accepts totally his recommendations, rather than the slow nudging in that direction that is happening now.

[MHGinTN]

Bravo, Excellent post. We have evolved to what we are now. In our primitive past we ate like the Atkins diet describes. If and when the science figures out how to change our genetic makeup we've inherited, THEN we will have doors open to way of maintaining svelte figures into old age. But until then, we ought eat as our genes dictate to avoid diabetes, etc.

[Praxeologue]

I am surprised that the NIH would sponsor this study. Carbs come in many forms, but the variety that causes the creation and retention of fat cells is high GI carbs, such as all the “-oses”, to include sugar. Low GI carbs, such as whole grain pasta and whole apples, are beneficial, within reason. They break down over hours, not minutes. As long as we get a moderate amount of exercise, we will metabolize these foods, preventing the body from turning them into fat Comparing the intake of “carbs” and “fat”, without specifying whether they are low or high GI or saturated, poly-unsaturated or unsatured, produces, in my view, a meaningless result.

[PA Engineer]

I am weighting

That was somewhat freudian. "WAITING"

[PA Engineer]

Thanks.

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link.

[PA Engineer]

Finally found the link you might enjoy.

Wood Aged Spirits (particularly Whiskey, Brandy, Scotch and Cognac)

An underappreciated class, we’d say. Unflavored distilled spirits in general are a low-carbers dream. What could be better than zero carbs? Well, how about zero carbs with a kick of antioxidants? Research has found impressive antioxidant activity in Bourbon whiskey, Armagnac brandy and cognac. In fact, whiskey contains more ellagic acid, a free radical fighter, than red wine. Wood aging, researchers believe, confer the benefits of high phenol and furan concentration.

[irishtenor]

I was thinking on inbibing in a glass of Glenmorangie (12 year old) tonight after my bike ride. Thanks for the added incentive.

[raygun]

If you're ever at a loss what to cook, go check it out at dLife. TONS of ideas. And they are yummy too. Did I mention the deserts? Delectable.

I can vouch for it despite my not being diabetic. Mom is and feeds me that stuff when I'm visting. Its good.