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Apple scores broad patent on touch screens
CNet News ^ | June 23, 2011 | by Don Reisinger

Posted on 06/22/2011 2:17:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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CNet is being a bit disingenuous in this article when discussing Apple's patent troubles. It is not telling the entire story, implying that Apple is in the wrong in the cases it mentions.

The Nokia v. Apple dispute discussed in the article was actually a WIN for Apple in that Nokia was demanding that Apple pay triple the amount others members of the cell phone patent pool licensing consortium were being required to pay for Nokia's patents in the pool AND that Apple license the iPhone patents to Nokia in exchange for merely getting fair pricing for what Apple should have gotten by contract as a member of the pool. Apple refused to pay Nokia ANY royalties at all until the dispute was settled, instead putting the royalties into an escrow account. Last week, a settlement was reached in which Nokia gets the royalties they WOULD have received at the normal pool rates and NOTHING more! Nokia claimed a win... But they did not get what they wanted. They just got what they were entitled to by contract, what Apple had put in the escrow account and was willing to pay from day one as a member of the patent consortium! In fact, Apple was the winner...

The Samsung lawsuit is a countersuit in response to Apple suing Samsung for violating Apple's intellectual property by copying the look, feel, and user interfaces of iPhones and iPads. Samsung just lost a major ruling from the judge in the case when she ruled that Samsung has no justification to see Apple's future iPhone 5 and iPad 3 products before release or announcements but that Apple is justified and allowed because of Samsung's past behavior to see Samsung's upcoming phones and tablets to determine if they should be injuncted from sale!

1 posted on 06/22/2011 2:17:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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2 posted on 06/22/2011 2:24:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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Apple is using cherrypicked photos that make the Samsung Galaxy S look like something it’s not.

As far as the patent goes, Android does this as well, but I’m not sure Google would have to pay out because it’s open source and Google isn’t releasing it for profit.

Steve is afraid of reliving the early 1990’s, where Microsoft allowed Windows to be installed on any computer running it.


3 posted on 06/22/2011 2:32:00 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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-- I'm not sure Google would have to pay out because it's open source and Google isn't releasing it for profit. --

Those factors are irrelevant to a patent infringement action. The holder of a patent has the right to exclude others from making, using, or selling the claimed invention.

4 posted on 06/22/2011 2:35:52 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Swordmaker

The Wright brothers tried to patent flying.


5 posted on 06/22/2011 2:37:51 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: benjibrowder
Should Mercedes have sued Ford:

:-)

6 posted on 06/22/2011 2:40:02 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Swordmaker
Other than varying the image on the touchscreen, how is this different from the mousing areas on laptops that replaced the toggle in the middle of the keyboard?

And shouldn't this go all the way back to elevator buttons that activated by the heat of your fingers?

-PJ

7 posted on 06/22/2011 2:40:55 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Swordmaker

The way I read this, all touch screen device do what is covered under this patent: Software responds to your touch.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 2:41:47 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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sure sounds like they are trying to patent prior art, doesn’t it?


9 posted on 06/22/2011 2:48:22 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: Political Junkie Too

N and M fingers?


10 posted on 06/22/2011 2:48:53 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RobRoy

Touch screen tech is 40 years old...

Long before apple even existed...


11 posted on 06/22/2011 2:49:43 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: RobRoy

The way I understand the difference is on the Apple the gesture or movement of the finger on the screen can cause different things to happen not just the location


12 posted on 06/22/2011 2:50:38 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (I am still looking for that box I am supposed to think out of.)
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To: Swordmaker

What ramifications does this have on Samsung users???


13 posted on 06/22/2011 2:55:24 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman
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Touch screen tech is 40 years old...

Long before apple even existed...

Indeed.

This is slimy lawyer territory.

14 posted on 06/22/2011 2:57:06 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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-- N and M fingers? --

heh, mine are labeled "A", "B", and "C", etc.

But seriously, the disclosure uses "N" to represent some number of finger(tips), say 2, or 3, or 4. "M" is a number different from whatever "N" is. The part of the disclosure that is reproduced above has one action, which reads like scrolling the entire screen, on a gesture with "N" fingertips (say 2), but the same gesture with a different number of fingertips causes only part of the display to scroll.

15 posted on 06/22/2011 2:58:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: bvw
Not sure I follow your meaning. Are you saying the ability to track multiple simultaneous touches?

-PJ

16 posted on 06/22/2011 3:00:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Yes.


17 posted on 06/22/2011 3:04:07 PM PDT by bvw
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To: RobRoy

I was making systems with touch screen interfaces from Elographics in 1989. The POS terminal business has used them for over 20 years. The only thing unique here is the n-finger gesture vs single point gesture.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 3:07:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: RobRoy

I tried to patent the question mark.


19 posted on 06/22/2011 3:08:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bvw
Ok. Got it.

-PJ

20 posted on 06/22/2011 3:10:54 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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