Skip to comments.Casey Anthony Live Trial Thread: SENTENCING (7/07/11)
Posted on 07/07/2011 5:44:43 AM PDT by truthkeeper
Today is the day she may walk free. Prepare yourselves.
Call me Pollyanna, but the Judge did give FingerBoy 6 days. Hopefully he has scoured the law so she can cool her heels a little longer.
But Krystal Hollaway (complete with a long rap sheet and an alias) had no credibility either. Using one Big Fat Liar to impeach another Big Fat Liar is laughable. But with that jury it worked. Part of that is the prosecution’s fault. I think that they should have been tougher in cross examining her.
If you go to bed and sleep all night and never wake the whole time, and there is 5 inches of snow on the ground can you say that without a doubt it snow the night before? Are you capable of that? THe new standard is you have to assume the jury is mentally challenged and cannot reason or deduce anything. Scary.
Everything you said is not definitive, or proof, nor the only scenario.
You don’t know who the last person to see Caylee alive was. You don’t know it was Casey.
You assumed you know.
So from your assumption, you created a series of events which may or may not have happened, or happened in the way you surmised.
Will you convict on the basis of your reasoning, that may or may not be correct?
Or will you judge on the basis of the facts entered into the record?
Could someone Casey is covering for, have taken those things of Caylee’s from the house? Could Casey have retrieved them, and given them to the killer?
What was the sequence of events offered by the prosecution?
You have not eliminated possibilities—you have opened new possibilities. How do you know that what you described is the way it went down?
I agree. People will always believe sex stories faster than anything.
Can’t prove it. Reasonable doubt. For example, Casey Anthony could have escaped from jail, taken the water from the swimming pool and handcrafted each drop of water into a six-sided snowflake, stuffed it all into black garbage bags and gently laid the white stuff all over the ground while you slept. Doesn’t matter that it was 82º that night. She may have had an accomplice—Santa Claus and his reindeer.
Jackwagon the DEFENSE said there were only three people involved, Casey, Cindy and George. The defense said it was accidental, no kidnapping nothing like that. No other people were brought in as possible party or parties in the crime by the defense! Get it?
If you think it wasn't Casey then it was George or Cindy. Since George went around town hanging signs with the exact same roll of duct tape found on the body he is pretty stupid then
Yeah, it absolutely is definitive but you will never admit it.
I boxed you in a corner. It pretty much HAD to be Casey and NO ONE else and that is clear from the evidence but you don’t want it to be that way for reasons only known to you.
Maybe she reminds you of your daughter or sister or even your mother. Maybe you’re a young man and would like to get it on with a hot babe like this one or maybe you’re a woman who’d like to do the same. Casey swings both ways—something for everyone.
In any event I proved the point that it had to be Casey and now I’m done talking with you about it.
If a child is thrown in the woods and rots into a skeleton is it still a murder?
I noticed that too, but I just thought it was because we had seen SO MANY pictures of Caylee as a younger child and not so many of her when she was older. Most of th epictures were focused on her face. It was hard to tell how tall she was. However, you could see her face maturing and becoming what I call "wise". Her face is changing from an innocent, angel baby look to a defiant gaze in some of the photos as she gets older. I can see her becoming a handful, particularly if she doesn't get her way. There is a reason that they call that stage of development the "terrible twos". I wish that someone had put those photos in date order, and then you could see the subtle change in her look. Yes, Casey was the photographer. I'm sure that Cindy took pictures too. Your point about the bathing suit is well taken.
ReallyDairyland, people CAN disagree with you and NOT be evil. You’ve crossed some kind of line that doesn’t need crossing.
Apparently not if nobody sees her mother do it and her mother is a young hot babe.
Dairyland is correct here, this is shear stupidity and very callous. If you do not know the facts I would suggest not commenting further.
Where did I call anyone evil? I didn’t.
That’s YOUR strawman. Go play with it on your own time.
I agree the child looked older in that photo by the sliding glass door but the child was dressed in an outfit I’d seen Caylee wearing in other photos so I didn’t make much of it. Now I’m wondering if she could have been that tall at the age of 2 or younger.
Or did the defense stage the picture using a child wearing a similar outfit to one Caylee wore? The picture was very dark and after all, we could only see the child from behind. Thinking about it more closely, I never took any pictures of the back of my daughter’s head so this picture is raising questions with me now.
I didn’t comment on the case - I commented on your tactics.
And I commented on yours.
anyone know if it came out in the trial as to the fight Cindy and Casey had in which Cindy choked her?
This jury can not. You don’t understand sales. Jose Baez does.
I was just listening to HLN....they discussed how the prosecution could have had a mistrial declared, but missed the opportunity. first time I heard that.
Were there any big trucks seen heading toward my house loaded with snow? Were there any tracks of large trucks in the sand on our drive way? Did anyone see a snow making machine in my area anytime in the preceding days?
No. Bug evidence in and of itself is not enough. And secondly, nobody but you made any mention of a garbage can.
Obviously, no. Not unless there was a video of the murder act, viable dna and fingerprints, and 14 certified eye witnesses.
But indy...Casey also threaten to leave with Caley if Cindy didn’t back off with her demands straighten her act out....and she did do just that after their last arguement. So they both used Caley to barter their way with each other.
Remember also that though the family told Cindy she needed to kick Casey out for all the “stuff” she was pulling. Cindy told them she couldn’t fo that or she’d not see Caley again.
Looks like we pretty much agree with the main factors...Caley was a pawn between Casey and Cindy..and they both have major “issues” in dealing with life and relationships. And the men were basically useless in resolving any of it.
So you see this pull and tug, with Casey in the middle, could not possibly go on indefinately. Cindy got the upper hand by looking into how she could get legal custody of Caylee...and Casey knew Cindy could prove she wasn’t Caley’s primary caregiver,.. and that her lifestyle was more than questionable for a mother,... let alone her record of thefts etc. from the family. It wouldn’t have been hard to prove Casey neglected her roll. No job, etc. etc. etc.
The only thing Casey had in her life which was of value, and rightfully “hers” was Caley. The tension wire between them broke that night and off Casey went with her daughter.
Trouble is Casey did not have the monitary means to care for her daughter... without stealing. And she could only do that for so long. She certainly couldn’t provide a roof over their heads without references and some sort of credit history,, and that was zip. And we know she herself was staying with friends... So I don’t believe Caley was with her for very long before she put her out for good.
Casey was unfit to establish any sort of life for Caley outside of her parents home. And we know the rest of the story.
I didn’t see opening arguments but I don’t think the prosecution ever mentioned the backyard fight at all because they didn’t have anyone who could tell the story except the 4 Anthony’s and they never would have done it.
A mistrial over what?
statements from Baez made during opening......they should have protested claiming it won’t come in in evidence and retaining their claims for a mistrial if he never presents it....this was just one pundit...never heard anyone else say that, so I don’t know if it was possible.
I agree with you caww, that is pretty much what I think happened.
Probably a wise thing to do with all considered with The Anthony family. Outside family members have basically said the family wasn't functional in the normal sense of the word. But I do think how the Anthony's functioned was indeed 'Normal" for them.... And why it has self-destructed.
I don't think Caley was alive for very long after Casey left with her. She had no means to provide for her.
I’ve been thinking about those March computer searches and why nothing else showed up on the home computer after that. I’m wondering if she could’ve done incriminating searches on other people’s computers, like that boyfriend she was so desperate to get a hold of after she was arrested. Anyone know if the cops ever looked at any other computers Casey Anthony had access to?
I didn’t know that; but it sounds reasonable.
Jose Baez as I have said before knew better than anyone he had to sell this jury and he did. He controlled that courtroom. While everyone else was trying the case by the rule of law he was disrupting, saying anything he could to keep the limelight off his client even as Casey tried to get it back on he; so he took control of the situation and put the limelight on him while including the jurors. I suspect Mason had something to do with this; but Jose had to understand the only thing he had going was selling this jury. Casey is guilty; we all pretty much know that. You don’t let someone off when you think they are guilty and if what some of the jurors have said is true; they thought she was guilty too.
I understand American D., that the only way that could happen is if the Jury was somehow established as “not fit”...for want of the correct term.
They said that Casey was the type that latched on and was possessive. This Tony she claimed she was in love with. They said that for Tony it wasn't love and he told Casey that after he was done with school he was heading back to New York. Tony always thought Caylee was a cute little kid but he also didn't think a college guy apartment was the place for a little kid. They said that Caylee never slept there, They didn't know where Casey took her, but they figured the nanny business was BS because they knew that that would be more expensive than Casey could afford. They figured she always took her to her parents house in reality. Understand that it wasn't their problem what Casey did with Caylee.
I can see that Casey, on the outs with Cindy who was threatening to take Caylee, maybe saw that Caylee was the problem. Being rid of her spites Mom and frees me to follow Tony.
Who knows? I also think there my be an element here on the porn thing. Something is out there maybe not yet developed. Time will tell.
With a sociopath like Casey. It ain't over till it is over.
Casey wanted a ticket outa town....Tony was IT....and she was making it happen....but Cindy and the 911 call caught up with her before it came about. I think Tony would have dumped her.....he’s lucky the cops got ahold of her before that happened....as Caylee was not so lucky.....who knows how far she would have gone.
Did you see the body language lady on HLN today? She also consults for jurys.
She said River Cruz was lying. She thought Chrystal Holloway aka River Cruz, may have had a relationship in her own mind with George, but her testimony was deceptive.
I had to agree. I didn’t believe a word she said.
I think she is how people bought into Obama. LOL
Not surprising about the college kids...they are still very much lids in our world today. But it was said she took Caley to some of these late night parties and they made it clear it wasn’t a place for a kid...and they are right.
No matter how the picture is painted......the only person in that family who stood to gain by Caley’s death was Casey...just as the attorney said.
Tony’s friends sure think Tony lucked out. They said they couldn’t believe it themselves that her kid was gone 31 days. They said you could never know it by the way she acted. There were no clues. I think they all got used to the fact she fibbed alot, but never took it seriously.
Jerry Springer won’t have Casey either.
LOL No surprise here. I can’t imagine it wouldn’t reel in more than that million, but even riff raff turns these folks down.
yeah, they thought “nanny” was a euphemism for the grandparents.
Well, that is what they said. I believed them. I actually liked these guys. They seemed normal and their reactions were normal for guys their age living as they are.
Hell, from reading transcripts of various people, Cindy and George knew she was lying about the nanny and all. I guess they figured as long as there was no trouble, they could live with it.
They even knew she was lying about having jobs. Unreal.
I wonder if old Tony ever saw this look of love turned his way. If he would have, he would have left skid marks on his quick exit to Noo Yawk. LOL
Do you know if the cops ever examined Tony’s computer/s?
betcha that was the last thing Caylee ever saw...
I HOPE so...
I did like the guy...he was honest and forthright with his comments.
Aopparently a computer of Caseys was confiscated and the info is sealed. Mom and Dads was released.
I read that somewhere today. I would have to look for where.
I’m guessing a lot passes in the night for some.
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