Posted on 08/03/2011 4:19:12 PM PDT by trekdown
“You ignorant little penis slurper...you know nothing about which you ignorantly speak....America never lost that war”
America did lose that war. 0-1. The only war that was the Boomer’s obligation to win, America lost. Every other generation of Americans fought and won.
Did they lose on the field of battle? No. But they lost in the hearts and minds of Americans, when they pulled out in ‘75. Look at what happened to the South Vietnamese. Vietnam could have been like Korea. But the Boomers are not like their fathers. They failed where their fathers succeeded and saved a nation of people from the crushing weight of communism.
“You are a despicable human piece of dreck”
I call a spade a spade. I know some great men and women out there serving their country, so that people like you can call them the ‘stupid generation’. Typical. Spit on your own peers who serve and now you spit on us.
Evidently you are a media sponge who learns his history from TV.
Did you know that the under 30s were the strongest supporters of the Vietnam War?
Which generation was asleep at the switch for 9-11? Could it be the one that had just spent most of the previous decade in power and cared little permitting the intelligence agencies to atrophy?
The ones who all voted for Bubba Clinton in droves? Thanks for that, btw.
As for my generation, the facts and the trend don’t bear it out. In 2012, if the trends all hold, no generation will vote for Obama, and his largest supporters will be the same generation now as then, the boomers.
You do know that Nixon promised to end the war in Vietnam?
Gosh. That was easy.
So even though the age group was the strongest supporters for the war, and they voted for Nixon instead of the guy that would have ended the war for sure, and instantly, you see those facts as just the opposite.
For a guy that never served you sure are weird about war, does it occur to you to ask why the older generations were so against the war after more than 1.4 million military deaths and more than a million civilian deaths, and American involvement for almost a generation, and heavy combat for 8 years, and an American political leadership of WWII vets that seemed to have no goal or interest in winning a victory, or taking the war to the enemy?
z I never called anyone a "stupid generation"...I called you a stupid penis slurper...you haven't done squat...except run your mouth...typical liberal fool...
Bommers are responsible for the mess we are in. No two ways about it. This mess started way before Obama. He just pushed it over the cliff sooner than expected.
Your generation was raised by boomers, so you probably ought to dismount your high horse before you hurt yourself.:)
“Then why were they [the young] voting Republican?”
They weren’t! The few who actually bothered to vote (being more responsible citizens) may have voted more Republican than Democrat, but that demographic’s turnout was pathetic until ‘08.
We have a different understanding of ‘young’ as regards voting habits. The XXVI Amendment was only adopted in 1971; ‘72 was the first national election after its ratification when the 18-21 group could vote at all, and Nixon was the incumbent. So he got slightly more than half the ‘youth’ vote.
I would differentiate that 18-21 group from the 25-29 in any case. The latter have generally entered the ‘real,’ i.e., working world while the former are still in school and dependent with little to no grasp of reality. That does affect one’s voting tendencies.
The turn out of the 18 to 29 year old vote in 1972, was the highest that it has ever been! It exceeded the overall national turnout that year of 55.2%
The democrats got 47% of the 21 to 29 year old vote in 1968, and 46% of the 18 to 29 year old vote in 1972.
I’m a convert to Christianity.
Believe me, I’ve had a hard enough road to get to where I’ve gotten and plenty far enough left to go.
I’ve been fortunate enough to meet some bright and kind Christians who got me on the right road. We aren’t all wastrels.
Calling me a ‘liberal fool’, isn’t going to convince me of anything.
I know that about your generation.
You’re still using the 18-29 figures. It’s possible that the year after the <21 were allowed to vote they actually came out, but historically it’s been the worst age group on turnout. That decline after the initial burst may be attributable to the end of the Vietnam conflict and draft. Not having any skin in the game does that to people.
So having "skin in the game" made the draft age people vote pro-war, and pro-Republican? Did you take note that the under 30 age group was always the most pro-Vietnam?
You keep talking about 18 to 21, why is that, you don't have any numbers for them, that is an incredibly thin slice to find numbers for, and you were totally wrong about the youth vote turn out in 1972, it was the highest in history, contrary to you thinking they did not show up.
The 18 to 24 year old vote (which we do have data for)in 1972 was over 50% also, again, the highest for that age group in our history.
One more time: 1972 was an anomaly. It was one year after ratification of the XXVI Amendment, the Vietnam conflict was hot, and the draft was quite alive.
McGovern’s one-note campaign made McCain ‘08 look like the textbook model for electoral success. Not to mention that his chosen VP candidate had to withdraw late in the game. That election, in fact, marked a massive shift in the Democrat party from merely liberal to the radical left we see today.
Your definition of the ‘youth’ vote and mine seems to be creating a difference of opinion. In my view, until @ 25, that’s the ‘youth’ vote. By 25, most have gotten a job, are paying taxes, and many then were married. Those circumstances make one look at politics entirely differently than an 18-22 year old who’s still a student with dad and mom picking up the tab. So putting an 18 year old and a 29 year old in the same category makes no sense to me. A working 27 year old has more in common with a 40 year old than an 18 year old.
You keep posting all these figures for the 18-29 set without citing a source. For all anyone knows, the information was gathered using the same methodology as exit polling done in Florida in 2000. Viz. your post was the first time I’d ever heard of the 60s-70s youth favoring the Vietnam conflict. By ‘72, as I recall, it enjoyed precious little support from any demographic and Nixon/Kissinger were making it clear that if reelected he would end that conflict.
I supply you with all this information and it doesn’t seem to matter with you, you just want to claim what you claim and ignore any facts that tell you different.
Actually the under 30 vote turnout used to be higher before the 1988 election than since, and 1972 was the all-time record for the under 30 turn out, an age group that was very politicized at the time, more so than at any time since for that age group.
In 1972 the democrats won 46% to Nixon’s 52% of the under 30 vote, in 1968 the democrats won 47% of the under 30 vote.
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