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Vanity: Dealing with rude or arrogant police
flintsilver7

Posted on 09/09/2011 11:28:52 AM PDT by flintsilver7

OK, so we've had a lot of rain recently in Northern Virginia. Yesterday into today accounted for about 8 inches, with another four inches earlier in the week. There is a small stream down the road which flooded badly, bringing down some trees around the bridge. It's marginally passable if you were to take one car at a time. In any case, the bridge is closed. Fairfax County Police, in their infinite wisdom, chose to block entry to the road at the nearest intersection. What they didn't consider was that they were blocking access to several hundred homes as well.

When I came upon an officer at this intersection, I asked him what I should do because I lived there. His very rude reply was to yell "the road's closed." Thanks, asshole, I can see that, so I replied "Yes, but I live here and I'm returning home." He then yelled, rudely again, "Can't you see the road's closed? Go up the road." I asked him where, saying again that I lived there and you can't just block almost 400 homes off without telling the residents where to go. I suggested a sign that said "local traffic only" or "residents only" and his response was "too bad."

Seriously, why does it seem like the only people who like cops have never had an experience with them? Are they all this obnoxious? (In my experience, yes, but that's another story.)


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; lawenforcement; virginia
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To: flintsilver7

oh I see now. nevermind.


61 posted on 09/09/2011 1:08:39 PM PDT by lwd
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To: flintsilver7

I know how you are feeling.

The issue is that they are trained to act and speak in a way that is intimidating and “commanding.” They also have a feeling that you are a civilian, and you have to right to question their authority.

Its funny, in my suburban town, the cops that have had “real” experience in the military or the real world (read urban police department) are the best ones to deal with. They take it easy when being a jerk is not necessary. They are the best ones to be on hand when your relative is having a heart attack and they are the first responder.

That said, I think the best way to deal with these guys is to try to let them know you respect the fact that they are cops, and you just want to get home. Usually they will break the mold and be real people. If that doesn’t work, shake your head, whisper something about them being Aholes, and figure it out on your own.

Confrontation never, ever works with these guys.


62 posted on 09/09/2011 1:14:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ok, just to review. Here is a list of things that are NOT rights: A home, Health care, and a job.)
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To: walkingdead

You want to know what’s really sad? There is a true roadblock at the last intersection before the bridge. The bridge is within sight of that, so you know exactly why the road is blocked. There is ample turnaround space for any vehicle short of a semi, and I’ve never even seen a semi on that road.

The roadblock I was stuck at served absolutely no purpose besides preventing the people who live in the two developments along the way from getting home. It was really not hard to figure out.


63 posted on 09/09/2011 1:28:42 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I see this at work all the time. We have a mix of civilian police and military police controlling access to the base where I work. Guess which group causes all of the problems?


64 posted on 09/09/2011 1:31:57 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

You are a liar. You didn’t politely ask anything. You demanded that you have access to a place because you thought you were entitled. By the way YOUR taxes don’t pay crap. Your contribution to a police salary is probably less than a cent. The police don’t work for any one particular person. They certainly don’t work for you, and your contribution to any salary is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. You see, in a republic the police work for the public at large, who speak through their elected representatives. Thus, if you don’t like a road being closed, you got to convince enough of your fellow citizens to elect representatives who will forbid the practice. You don’t get to change the rules on the fly because you think you are king.

Anyway, your response here is more than evident as to who the blame lays with.

You just wanted to be in charge, and now you are taking a fit like a petulent child because you didn’t get your way.

Get a life Captain entitlement.


65 posted on 09/09/2011 1:43:49 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Joe Brower

Screaming out a window and demanding entry past a police barrier is not the same as “needing to return to ones house.”


66 posted on 09/09/2011 1:45:27 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998

Wow.

You’re insane.

That is all.


67 posted on 09/09/2011 1:47:32 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7
I agree that most cops are not here to help the citizens, although I am close friends with some at my church and they are great guys so not all are bad. Now I'm a “prepper” and may have to deal with the police in a TEOTWAWKI situation so I've taken CERT (Community Emergency Response Training) and I carry a hard hat, safety vest, ID card and emergency response kit at all times. I'll help in an emergency situation whenever necessary and I figure it might also allow me to talk my way through situations like this. I'm also looking at going through the Citizen Police Academy program as it doesn't hurt to have some connections inside the police department.
68 posted on 09/09/2011 1:56:35 PM PDT by Teotwawki (To Him be the glory throughout all generations.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

If you honestly believe what you wrote, then you are nothing more than a slave. The police are your masters, and you live at their beck and call. They control where you can go and when you can go there, and you have no property rights that aren’t directly controlled by the police.

Well, either that or you’re one of the cops with an insecurity complex.


69 posted on 09/09/2011 2:01:40 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: freedomwarrior998; flintsilver7
You are a liar. You didn’t politely ask anything. You demanded that you have access to a place because you thought you were entitled.

Since you were there why don't you just post the video?

Or since you weren't blow it out of your badge bunny ass?

70 posted on 09/09/2011 2:15:10 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: freedomwarrior998
"Screaming out a window"

Where is that described in the original poster's description of events?

71 posted on 09/09/2011 2:26:05 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: flintsilver7

Actually I’m kind of surprised the cop hasn’t shot your dog yet..... wait did you make it home? May want to check on the dog when you get there!


72 posted on 09/09/2011 2:46:44 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: walkingdead

They only shoot dogs when they illegally break into the wrong house.


73 posted on 09/09/2011 2:58:28 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: walkingdead

Fortunately, I don’t have a dog.

I did make it home, and I had to drive around another roadblock that “somebody” decided didn’t need to be there. That actually wasn’t me. If that roadblock was intended to be blocking the whole street (and it sure looked like it) then the only way I could get in (to my perfectly fine neighborhood roads) without driving through a roadblock would’ve been to drive on the wrong side of a divided road.


74 posted on 09/09/2011 3:04:20 PM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

Sometimes a road is closed because it’s simply impassable. It’s your neighborhood, if you know other ways to get in try them.


75 posted on 09/09/2011 3:12:01 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: flintsilver7

Well, glad to hear you made it home, sorry to hear you don’t have a dog anymore....... but with LEO these days, nobody owns a dog for long :-)


76 posted on 09/09/2011 3:14:11 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: flintsilver7

Get the badge number and name of the officer. Then call the department and lodge a formal complaint both regarding HOW the road was closed - prohibiting locals from getting home - as well as the unprofessional attitude of the officer. Remind the department that you can contact the local TV station and other media to the lack of unprofessional behavior as well if you are not favorably received.


77 posted on 09/09/2011 3:15:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Get the badge number and name of the officer. Then call the department and lodge a formal complaint both regarding HOW the road was closed - prohibiting locals from getting home - as well as the unprofessional attitude of the officer. Remind the department that you can contact the local TV station and other media to the lack of unprofessional behavior as well if you are not favorably received.

Do not do this. Never get the local or county mountie mad at you. Life will be hell. Instead, save this for when you really need it. No sense of gaining harassment for something so small.


78 posted on 09/09/2011 3:17:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: freedomwarrior998; flintsilver7; null and void

Flintsilver, try to just ignore him. He thinks he was in the shrubs, watching the situation and he’s trying to make this all your fault. He’s also got the WRONG username, considering his attitude.


79 posted on 09/09/2011 3:39:24 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Think. It isn't illegal yet.)
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To: yarddog
The only problem was if I had driven any slower I would have held up traffic. No one was driving 55 and a fair number were doing a bit faster than me.

I mentioned that to a state trooper. He said "Do you fish?"

"Um, yes."

"When you go fishing, do you catch all the fish?"

I left with a verbal.

80 posted on 09/09/2011 3:41:50 PM PDT by glock rocks ( I like Palin, but < insert PDS here >. Wait, what?)
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