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Post melt down money.....gold not all it is cracked up to be.
Open Source Survival ^ | 10-7-2011 | Ronin Gael

Posted on 10/08/2011 8:32:15 AM PDT by Lowell1775

If you have planned, prepared, and trained well.....snip.....you can relax and enjoy the simpler life of time gone by where everyday is a satisfying accomplishment if you just live through it.

So what about the money? Where does it fit in? Money will be the insurance for what you have forgotten, lost, broke or had stolen from your list of essentials above. You will hopefully be able to use items of value (currency, goods, gold, silver) or some combination to trade for what you need at that moment when the local Wal-Mart has been looted and burned to the ground. I say hopefully, because there is a money trap which we all need to be aware of.

Money is only money, no matter what it is, if the other guy agrees it has value TO HIM at THAT TIME.

The money trap many “preppers” will fall into is only slightly less deep than the non-preps.

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The solution? Just like today…..have a balanced portfolio of currency to use as events unfold. In what you acquire, the more attributes of money it has, the better it will serve you. Those attributes are durability divisibility, portability, homogeneity, rarity, difficulty to forge or fake.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: gold; goldbugs; obamarecession; preparation
Interesting twist on money. Sell gold. Buy tobacco. Smoke them if you got them.
1 posted on 10/08/2011 8:32:20 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Lowell1775
Buy tobacco....

Heh, heh....I know smokers that don't have the sense to do that.

2 posted on 10/08/2011 8:47:43 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Lowell1775

Gold has its ups and downs like any other commodity. However, to paraphrase the ad, its never been worth nothing, which can’t be said about stocks. Same with land or anything tangible. If the thing in itself has intrinsic worth then it’s a solid investment, assuming you don’t try to get in at the top.


3 posted on 10/08/2011 8:50:20 AM PDT by Batrachian (Not every human problem deserves a law.)
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To: Batrachian
Yes, Bat, gold always has, and has had, some barter worth throughout the history of civilization, almost without cultural boundaries.

But, it's heavy. If the downfall descends into migratory or nomadic lifestyle, diamonds would be more desirable as a portable wealth.

Personally. I'm securing much brass and lead (in the .177 (Pellets), .17 and .223 calibers), and a good knife along with a handful of small diamonds, a water filter with hand pump, knowledge of salt deposits near the surface, fire starting tools...y'know small portable resources

4 posted on 10/08/2011 9:02:48 AM PDT by woofer
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To: Lowell1775

I have some gold and silver, but not under the assumption that it is my savior when TSHTF. I own it to store value and preserve my savings. I started buying gold at $335.00 / oz and silver at $7.23 / oz - ths far, I’m doing quite well.

With that said, I also prep and have no misconceptions about what it will take to survive long-term - beyond a short term ‘bump’ in our society. I invest heavily in ammunition, coffee, tobacco seed, and the like. When TSHTF, I will be able to pick up gold and silver by the wheelbarrow full while scavenging the property of all of those people who thought it would ensure their survival. Within the first year, at least 70% of the population will perish.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 9:09:11 AM PDT by RobertClark (It's better to look goofy with a rifle, than civilized with an exit wound.)
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To: Lowell1775

Buy alcohol too.


6 posted on 10/08/2011 9:14:11 AM PDT by tiki
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To: woofer
Gold is heavy, but in situations where gold is used as currency, it's worth a lot more than you might think, so you don't need all that much of it. For example, in ancient Rome, 4 gold pieces bought you a slave. In the American West in 1876, a gold coin would get you a horse, and another would get you a gun and a month's provisions. These are only some examples of the true value of gold in the right situation.

As for diamonds, they would be useless in a barter situation, unless you're bartering in the diamond district of New York or Amsterdam, and then all you would get for them is (a lot of) cash. Diamonds can not be thought of as a medium of exchange like gold.

As for small portable resources, it never hurts to have a bug out bag ready.

7 posted on 10/08/2011 9:21:11 AM PDT by Batrachian (Not every human problem deserves a law.)
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To: Lowell1775

Pat Frank, author of the 1958 atomic thriller “Alas Babylon” as well as a post-nuclear survival handbook, wrote in the latter that “the day may come when a pound of tobacco will be worth more than a pound of gold.”

JMHO, but unopened .22 LR bricks may become as fungible as currency in a one second later scenario. Junk silver would be easier to spend than gold, as well. Just sayin’.


8 posted on 10/08/2011 9:31:29 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Batrachian
However, to paraphrase the ad, its never been worth nothing

It has however had negative value.

9 posted on 10/08/2011 9:40:14 AM PDT by null and void (Day 990 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: elcid1970

I’ve always thought a few silver spoons would be better than a gold Eagle—flashing some gold at a barter lot would be like inviting a crew of looters to follow you home...


10 posted on 10/08/2011 10:28:48 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

“silver spoons”

Sometimes we really need Captain Obvious to the rescue. I had not thought of the family sterling as a barter asset.

Thanks for the tip! And the warning.


11 posted on 10/08/2011 11:36:05 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: Lowell1775
if the other guy agrees it has value TO HIM at THAT TIME

I think gold is unusually unappreciated here as money, but you cannot argue with that statement. It is the source of all value and all trade. Throughout history, though, gold has filled the role pretty well.

12 posted on 10/08/2011 2:41:37 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Batrachian

In the American West in 1876, a gold coin would get you a horse, and another would get you a gun and a month’s provisions.


It still will.


13 posted on 10/10/2011 11:02:24 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Mamzelle

I’ve always thought a few silver spoons would be better than a gold Eagle—flashing some gold at a barter lot would be like inviting a crew of looters to follow you home...


I don’t know why anyone would try “flashing” their gold in public, any more that waving stacks of hundred dollar bills around.

Large purchases (like a vehicle) might be done with gold, but common sense (which every gold owner knows) suggests that smaller transactions are best handled with silver.

Frankly, any display of any wealth (including openly possessing the thing you just bought) could lead to looters following you. The smell of food cooing from your residence, or a generator running can do the same. there is nothing especially dangerous about gold. It’s just another asset.


14 posted on 10/10/2011 11:06:20 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Your post is reasonable. However, I'd like to put forth the notion that gold is not like other assets. Gold is desired for its own sake, for its beauty and its primitive appeal.

IOW, gold can make people crazy in a way that other precious metals and assets do not and cannot.

15 posted on 10/10/2011 5:39:29 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: woofer

Just FYI, diamonds are a terrible store of wealth in both reality and a post-civilization fantasy. They’re largely indivisible, destroyable, very non-liquid, and extremely subjective in value. If you ever get around to selling them it’s unlikely you’ll get what you paid.


16 posted on 10/12/2011 3:24:54 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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