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Spain: bullfighter survives terrifying face goring
MSNBC ^ | 10/8/11 | Harold Heckle

Posted on 10/08/2011 5:35:28 PM PDT by Krankor

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To: TWohlford
That was bad but not as bad as seeing a member of a Mexican cartel cut 2 men's heads off. That was posted on FR a few days ago.
21 posted on 10/08/2011 5:59:58 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: TWohlford
That's nothing. Here's a really horrifying Face Goring:


22 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:07 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Krankor

That sounds brutal!


23 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:15 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Let Go and Let God - He IS In Control)
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To: Krankor

The matador is a craven coward. I’m only sorry he lost one eye

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Would you have preferred he be completely run through with a horn? Sounds to me as if you delight in seeing humans get their comeuppance [as you see fit]and don’t bemoan their pain, yet you moan and gnash your teeth over the bull’s plight.

Your attitude places you on a level plain with those who enjoy the bull’s suffering. I love animals but I love people more. Period.


24 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:23 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: Krankor

As the saying goes You mess with the Bull...you get the horns!


25 posted on 10/08/2011 6:05:44 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Krankor
I suggest you go kill a puppy- it takes about the same level of skill.

Really? Have you ever been around a bull?

Most farm animals you can take casually except two, the goose and the bull. Both will attack. Both can leave you with broken bones. But bulls kill. They ain't puppies.

Unless you refer to rabid wolverines on angel dust as puppies.

26 posted on 10/08/2011 6:06:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: calex59

Matador, picador, it’s still pointless brutality.

Any hunter worthy of the name tries for a quick, clean kill instead of prolonging the creatures agony simply to play to a crowd of blood thirsty animals.

El matador earned every moment of pain the bull was able to inflict and then some.


27 posted on 10/08/2011 6:07:36 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: WePledge

Let me see if I got this straight. The matador takes a dumb animal, torments and tortures it. And I’m the bad guy because I’m glad the scumbag who does this gets his just deserts? Go kill a puppy. I bet you’d love it.


28 posted on 10/08/2011 6:08:46 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

Punchline from one of my favorite jokes:

“Sometimes, Senor, the bull does not lose.”


29 posted on 10/08/2011 6:21:56 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: TWohlford

No slo-mo replay with John Madden and his commentary and electronic marker!


30 posted on 10/08/2011 6:33:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Let me tell you this, my friend. If you’re a farmer, and one of your bulls or cows or horses or enraged chickens attacks you, then more power to you. Fight back with a knife, gun, machete or nuclear device. By the same token, if you enjoy tormenting or torturing an animal before you kill it then....well...you can go to hell— without an eye, I hope.


31 posted on 10/08/2011 6:34:09 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Yup. you said it well.


32 posted on 10/08/2011 6:41:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

He was not the matador, he was a banderillero - the man who plants the “banderillas” - the barbs in the bulls shoulders. One of several specialists in the Spanish bullfight.


33 posted on 10/08/2011 6:51:35 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Krankor

I can guarantee you my compassion levels are much higher than yours. If you’d bothered to read my post instead of lashing out in defense of your ludicrous opinions and assumptions, you’d have seen I don’t condone the torture of animals or humans. The fact that I believe humans are more important than animals is religious based so I won’t even try to argue the fact with you. If you have to save a child or a dog which will you choose?


34 posted on 10/08/2011 6:55:52 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: Krankor
Any animal I have killed has been dispatched as quickly and as humanly as possible. I see no reason for an animal to suffer and I don't understand the so called blood sports.

However your statement that it takes the same level of skill to kill a bull as a puppy is simply not accurate.

Bulls are not easy to put down, just a fact. They were the defenders of the herd against bears, wolves, big cats and so forth so they had to be tough. They haven't gone that soft over the centuries.

35 posted on 10/08/2011 6:57:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Krankor

It actually takes immense skill and training to do what these guys do.

They spend their youth practicing the skills required, not only to do their part, but to do it with style and grace. The Spanish bullfight critics are brutal.


36 posted on 10/08/2011 6:58:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Krankor

The Spanish bull running and slaying are something I do not understand. Whatever floats their boat, I guess.

Perhaps those bulls are tormented, I really don’t know.

I kind of doubt it. Though I have known some mexican nationals that believe that animals are for amusement. Sick what they do in mexico.

The U.S. probably has the best record of actuall abuse. Something worth researching.

Wanna make a difference? Move to Iran and open a dog shelter. No joke!

The Angus bull is gentle and doglike. Though there are some cows in the herd with the bloodline of Santa Gertrudis. They are dangerous with calf. The Angus are freaking smart. They sell well. They calve well. They are hard to handle sometimes.

I hunt wild deer for meat, btw. Wild pigs too, oinky! Its bow season here in TX. Kill and Grill! Can I cook y’all a rabbit or something?

The wild things taste better!

Krankor, go have yourself an historical day! God Love It!Bless its Heart!

God Bless!

hunterdude


37 posted on 10/08/2011 7:04:38 PM PDT by waterhill (KAP( kill all pigs, feral pigs, that is....))
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To: Krankor

Not a matador. The matador generally just kills the bull.

The bull is put through a three-stage ritual, involving a play of capes combined with, first, lances, followed by the banderillas, and finally the sword.

The first two stages are actually necessary, for many often very subtle reasons, to make the final stage reasonably safe (relatively speaking, this is an extemely dangerous profession) and certain.


38 posted on 10/08/2011 7:09:27 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Krankor

These are not ordinary bulls.

They are bred specially for the bullring. You could say they are the pitbulls (yes, that amuses me too !) of the bovine race.


40 posted on 10/08/2011 7:23:10 PM PDT by buwaya
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