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Great Danes and other “attack dogs” would be euthanized under Cumberland County ban
Ohmidog! ^ | December 5, 2011 | jwoestendiek

Posted on 12/05/2011 11:45:43 AM PST by Altariel

Apparently gunning down stray dogs on the streets wasn’t enough for the dog unfriendly officials of Cumberland County, North Carolina.

Now they want to slay, within 72 hours, every dog that comes into the shelter who is, or appears to be a mix of:

American Staffordshire terrier, Rottweiller, Akita, chow chow, Doberman pinscher, German shepherd, Great Dane, Presa Canario, Siberian husky or mastiff. There’s a convenient catch-all pit bull category as well.

They’re not doing it yet, despite what you may be reading on the misinformation highway.

But they’re talking about it.

The county’s Animal Control Board is recommending that authorities limit the adoption of the above dog breeds, or, as one county official referred to them, ”attack animals.” (Clearly, they haven’t met many Great Danes.)

The idea is only in the discussion stages, but many websites are reporting –erroneously — that the new policy goes into effect today.

“I’ve probably had 1,500 emails,” said John Lauby, director of Cumberland County Animal Control. (Here’s hoping he gets about 150,000 more.)

Lauby told a Fayetteville Observer columnist that misinformation on the Internet led people to believe the county will ban adoption of pit bulls and other breeds starting Monday, and immediately euthanize any members of those breeds in the shelter.

In reality, the county hasn’t taken that medieval step, it’s just considering it.

“We’re looking at a list of animals used as attack animals,” County Commissioner Charles Evans said. “It has been suggested that something needs to be done about those.”

The recommendation would have to make its way through a committe and then require approval by the county commissioners before going into effect. But it’s scheduled to be introduced at a meeting tonight. (6 p.m., at Cumberland County Animal Services, 4704 Corporation Drive, Fayetteville).

Lauby said animal control constantly receives calls from residents complaining about dogs behaving aggressively or running loose, preventing people from getting into their cars.

“We have an inordinate number of pit bulls in the county that are chasing people, chasing dogs, they’re on school grounds and generally bother people,” he said. “The reality is that about 80 percent of our calls are related to that particular breed.”

Complaints from the public also led Cumberland County to hire an outside contractor to capture stray dogs in and around Fayetteville — a massive roundup that started in August and, at last report, led to more dogs being gunned down than caught alive.

Fayetteville doesn’t have its own animal control department, instead relying on the county office to handle dog-related issues.

As I’ve implied before, that might be part of the problem — the problem, in my view, being not just too many uncontrolled dogs, but too many unenlightened public servants, who see dogs as foes and death as a solution.

Maybe it’s the army base influence. In any event, someone needs to usher Cumberland County into modern times.

In a way, the proposed policy — while it it lists some new ”public enemy” breeds, like the husky, and some returning ones, like the shepherd — would only formalize what’s already common practice in the county.

Since April, Cumberland County Animal Control has taken in nearly 1,300 pit bulls, but only 124 have been adopted. The shelter has taken in 180 Rottweilers since then, only 26 of whom were adopted. Of 96 chow chows received at the shelter since April, 15 have been adopted, according to the Fayetteville Observer.

The rest are euthanized.

Now, some want to make it official, banning the adoption of any of those breeds and guaranteeing a death sentence for all of them, or any mixes thereof — all based on what will likely be, judging from the wisdom they’ve shown so far, an uneducated guess.

In addition to complaints, worries about liability issues are also behind the proposal. The county fears it might be held responsible for any damage done by dogs adopted from its shelter. Most shelters handle that with a simple waiver.

Petitions against the policy can be found on several websites, including our-compass.org and change.org.

If you’d like to give Cumberland County officials a piece of your mind — and it appears they could use it — continue reading for contact information.

Dr. Jeannette M. Council PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Home: 910-488-0691 jcouncil@co.cumberland.nc.us

Charles Evans PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Home: 910-978-6643 cevans@co.cumberland.nc.us

Jimmy Keefe PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Work: 910-323-1791 jkeefe@co.cumberland.nc.us

Billy R. King PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Work: 910-822-6676 bking@co.cumberland.nc.us

Edward Melvin PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Cell: 910-391-4028 emelvin@co.cumberland.nc.us

Kenneth S. Edge Chairman PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Home: 910-425-0918 kedge@co.cumberland.nc.us

Marshall Faircloth Vice Chairman PO Box 1829 Fayetteville, NC 28302 Office: 910-678-7771 Work: 910-323-1040 wmfaircloth@co.cumberland.nc.us

Mayor Anthony G. Chavonne 433 Hay Street Fayetteville, NC 28301 910-433-1992, 910-433-3401 Fax 433-1948 mayor@ci.fay.nc.us

Dr. John Lauby Director of Animal Services Cumberland County Animal Control 4704 Corporation Drive, Fayetteville, NC 28306 Animal Control Phone: 910-321-6845, 910-321-6844, 910-321-6826, 910-321-6827, 910-321-6945, 910-321-6965 910-321-6852 jlauby@co.cumberland.nc.us


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To: potlatch

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I guess the libs cannot take the Texas heat!

Recall the last scene in “GIANT”?

A Jag XK-120 passed the convertible that Rock Hudson (with Elizabeth Taylor) was driving back to the ranch - and Jag driver slowed and gave a grin to the daughter who had been smitten by James Dean - I’m trying to find a color still from that scene to check the paint color of that XK-120

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41 posted on 12/05/2011 9:11:04 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - maybe a little lobbying - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

[I guess the libs cannot take the Texas heat!]

The libs come down here in the winter to escape their bad winters.

Sorry devolve, I can’t remember much about Giant, haven’t watched movies in more years than you can even imagine - other than TV movies rarely.

If you have the image uploaded, I thought you had a ‘color picker’ site that you talked about waaaay back?

Getting late.


42 posted on 12/05/2011 9:17:34 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: Wildbill22

I have know a few people who have Great Danes and the biggest problem is they think they are lap dogs.


43 posted on 12/05/2011 9:24:09 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( If you can't laugh at your self, I will for you.)
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To: potlatch

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I once had a website that had stills of all the Bond and other movies - I could blow them up and/or make slideshows of any movie with that

I can’t remember where or how I found it

I don’t need a “color picker” tool
Just that last scene

I found another good close photo of Clark Gable in his Jaguar XK-120

Every big male actor in Hollywood was after a ‘48-’49 Jaguar XK-120

Clark Gable
Humphrey Bogart
Gary Cooper
Robert Stack

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Late

12:23am here

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44 posted on 12/05/2011 9:32:11 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - maybe a little lobbying - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

[I’m trying to find a color still from that scene to check the paint color of that XK-120]

OK, I misunderstood.


45 posted on 12/05/2011 9:42:51 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

For example?

I think I saw one episode of Dogs 101 awhile back, but nothing stood out to me as false in that episode, but I’m assuming you’re more familiar with the show than I am.


46 posted on 12/05/2011 9:52:24 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: potlatch

FRANKLY SCARLETT COOP AND BOGEY AND I
ARE GOING OUT FOR BURGERS TONIGHT






47 posted on 12/05/2011 10:02:10 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - - - maybe a little lobbying - - - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

It’s a crime these animals end up in the shelters.


48 posted on 12/05/2011 11:42:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: potlatch

It’s so good to “see” you! I hope all is well with you.


49 posted on 12/06/2011 12:53:52 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and, apparently, an evil Capitalist.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The “I was here first” argument is not a particularly effective one - ask the American Indians how it worked out for them. It may seem like injustice to you but no one else involved will view it that way.


50 posted on 12/06/2011 4:46:37 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Joe 6-pack

Bwahahahahahaha!

People are outraged. “Bu-bu-but, we never saw this coming!”


51 posted on 12/06/2011 7:18:55 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Use it up, wear it out, make it over or do without.)
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To: Altariel
I have two Great Danes. They are just big old couch potatoes who also think they are lap dogs. These people are just plain stupid.
52 posted on 12/06/2011 7:32:41 AM PST by bamafour
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To: Altariel

While I don’t personally agree with any kind of breed specific list of dogs to be destroyed, I think we need to look at this from a different perspective. Animal shelters have only two options in the disposition of the dogs they take in. They can put them up for adoption or they can euthanize them. If they adopt them out, they can and have been found liable if that dog subsequently injures someone. Most shelters don’t have the resources to hold a dog long enough to be able to determine whether or not his temperment poses a risk. They also can’t afford to pay for lawsuits or settlements. Unfortunately, a measure like this is just an expedient form of controlling costs.


53 posted on 12/06/2011 8:07:02 AM PST by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Altariel

Someone needs to do some breed research. The only thing in danger of being “attacked” by a Great Dane is the sofa. It belongs to the above mentioned lounge lizard for napping! lol


54 posted on 12/06/2011 8:09:41 AM PST by tob2 (Merry Christmas to all!)
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To: Altariel

Pushing the ridiculous notion - I thought long dropped - that wolves contributed to German Shepherds. Total BS. 1st they actually stated something about actually having wolf blood, then said something about Dutch breeders early on putting in wolves and it not working, but leaving the impression that all German Shepherds were based to some degree on wolf. Whatever Dutch people did, I don’t know, but even if they did, it has no bearing on the origin or today’s reality.

I think I heard some nonsense on some other dogs, too, but can’t remember which. Maybe Dachshund included (my husband likes them). Never mind it bugs me they include mutts in their shows now - all the retriever-poodles, etc.

A better show is “Breed All About It”. They had some nice thorough info as I recall, and it’s 1/2 hr each so there is more chance for depth, anyway.


55 posted on 12/06/2011 8:14:41 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

**It may seem like injustice to you but no one else involved will view it that way.**

I guess you are right, They set down and eat their dinner they bitch about the noise, the manure smell, the harvesting, the dust, the animals, all from the very farms that brought them their dinner.

Right now a local village is in a battle between farmers and city people who have moved to the country and bitch about the farmers agri practices.

As my kin used to say, If they (the city people) can’t stand the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

Or; If they don’t like my peaches, don’t shake my tree.


56 posted on 12/06/2011 8:14:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

While walking a friend’s shepherd with my young daughter (nearly 20 yrs ago), the neighbor’s loose dog attacked us - he was apparently also territorial about “his road”. My friend’s shepherd nearly killed the loose-running dog, and I wouldn’t hesitate to say he saved our lives.The GSD we were walking put himself between my kid & the attacking dog - and so the attacker went after ME. Luckily, I came out of it with only a torn out kneecap and puncture wounds on my arms.

The neighbor came out and yelled at ME for walking the shepherd past his house (mind you I was on the road, not his property), and complaining about the severe neck wounds to his dog.

What’s the point of this story?

Well, for one, your dogs need to learn that the road is the road. It’s your responsibility to teach & train them. Dogs are clever critters and a little thing like a fence won’t stop them from going after people. We have 3 shepherds and NO fencing - and we don’t need it. They don’t go near the property line unless I give the command and allow them to visit the neighbors (or send them after an intruder) That’s what training will do for you.

Time teaching/training every day will save you thousands in lawsuits later. Trust me, having been through it (plus 2 surgeries to repair my leg).

PS...not trying to pick a fight, but why on earth would you let your dogs think the road is their property? Seems like you are just asking for trouble, in my opinion (again, not trying to start a fight, just want to know the reasoning behind it)


57 posted on 12/06/2011 8:22:25 AM PST by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: muir_redwoods

English mastiffs are some of the most docile creatures on the planet, and bullmastiffs are famous for their affection for children. My bullmastiff Maggie is a 110 lb lap dog, that is scared of Japaness beetles, eats ice cubes for treats, and doesn’t have an aggressive bone in her body.

I hate this knee-jerk reaction by bureaucrats that know nothing about dogs, breeds, or animal psychology. Shame on you Cumberland County, SHAME!


58 posted on 12/06/2011 8:24:37 AM PST by Juana la Loca
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To: Altariel

Bad dogs are made not born. As to Great Danes, my parents had Danes before I was born and growing up they were wonderful, GENTLE loves of mine. My brother and I slept on them in the day and they slept by our beds at night. Because I adopted so many needy dogs and cats in my adulthood I never did get a dane of my own. And I never did have a bad dog of any kind.


59 posted on 12/06/2011 8:30:39 AM PST by Erda
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To: LadyBuck

***Seems like you are just asking for trouble, in my opinion ***

Never had a problem for the last 50 years till the county paved the road and joggers from over a mile away began take over it. None of the joggers live within a mile of me and they have four better roads that are closer to them, plus a free use high school track. Again, the dogs don’t bother people walking, or horseback riders. even people walking their dogs have no problem, only joggers.

It is NOT a good jogging road as some drivers like to FLY or drag race down it and there is NO place for a jogger to get out of the way of these racers. There is a 5 ft deep brush filled ditch on each side of the road.


60 posted on 12/06/2011 8:48:21 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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