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...Kanzi, the ape who HAS learned the secret of man's red fire and loves...a good fry-up
Daily Mail ^ | December 30, 2011 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 01/02/2012 2:07:38 PM PST by decimon

Eagerly he collects wood from the ground, snaps the branches into small pieces and carefully balances them in a pile. Then, taking care not to burn himself, he gently strikes a match and gets ready for a fry-up.

Like all red-blooded males, Kanzi loves messing around with a barbecue. But then, as these extraordinary pictures show, Kanzi is no man. He is a bonobo - pygmy chimpanzee - and his love of fire is challenging the way that we think about our closest relatives in the animal kingdom.

For although bonobo apes and larger chimpanzees use twigs and leaves as tools, none has ever shown such skill for cooking food.

Dr Savage-Rumbaugh, of the Great Ape Trust, in Des Moines, Iowa, adds: ‘Kanzi makes fire because he wants to. He used to watch the film Quest For Fire when he was very young which was about early man struggling to control fire. He watched it spellbound over and over hundreds of times.’

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: apemakesfire; apes; bonobo; bonobos; chimpanzee; chimpanzees; chimps; godsgravesglyphs; kanzi
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To: decimon
He used to watch the film Quest For Fire when he was very young which was about early man struggling to control fire. He watched it spellbound over and over hundreds of times.’

When I was very young, I too was struck spellbound by Daryl Hannah.

21 posted on 01/02/2012 2:57:49 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: decimon

The uplift wars by David Brin


22 posted on 01/02/2012 3:10:29 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Grizzled Bear
The actress in Quest for Fire was Rae Dawn Chong, Tommy's daughter. Petite brunette, and as far as I recall never overtly political. Daryl, on the other hand, is long and blonde with politics one could associate with countless blonde jokes. Given the choice I'd take the cute little Cro-Magnon girl every time.
23 posted on 01/02/2012 3:43:43 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana

You’re right. I was thinking of Clan of the Cave Bear.


24 posted on 01/02/2012 3:53:01 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: Clock King
Not gonna go there; like shooting fish in a barrel (another smoker wearing a straw hat).

...admit it, *you* thought about it too!

Cheers!

25 posted on 01/02/2012 3:58:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Neither film was especially good, although Ron Perlman's Neanderthal grunts and the confronting the cave bear scene in Clan of the Cave Bear were worth watching. Based on your Freeper name I'd bet you liked it too. Nothing like hot bear breath in your face to leave a stain in one's furry pants.
26 posted on 01/02/2012 4:08:45 PM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: decimon

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks decimon.
He used to watch the film Quest For Fire when he was very young which was about early man struggling to control fire. He watched it spellbound over and over hundreds of times.
Good thing it wasn't "Last Tango in Paris", eh? Not pingin', I want to get to bed at a decent hour. ;')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


27 posted on 01/02/2012 4:17:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
next thing you know, they’ll run for politics in the GOP

Are you sure about that? The party, I mean....

28 posted on 01/02/2012 4:22:47 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: marstegreg
kinda like the OWS-ers... they LOVE money but have no idea how to make it on their own
29 posted on 01/02/2012 4:27:58 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SunkenCiv
Good thing it wasn't "Last Tango in Paris"

Whatever you do, don't pass Kanzi the butter.

30 posted on 01/02/2012 4:28:34 PM PST by decimon
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To: Hot Tabasco
next thing you know, they’ll run for politics in the GOP

Given the way homo sapiens has screwed up even their own societies, I figure the apes would go third party and build new voting blocs.

31 posted on 01/02/2012 4:36:01 PM PST by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: decimon
Terry Bisson ping

Look it up, you'll be glad you did.

32 posted on 01/02/2012 4:45:03 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Apes or whatever: they can barbeque?, but more important, can they tailgate properly at your average bowl-eligible football team event? Are they potentially major donors? Would they be interested in marrying a celebrity for a few weeks? Can they join class-action lawsuits. Are they “outside kin” of humans who prefer not to acknowlege their no-account relatives. Can a good sitcom or reality tv show be made about a sizzler simian? Through DNA testing, can we figure out which VIP’s they are related to, not that anyone should give a shi’ite (unless the critter proves to be one), or is running for major political office where age is the only remaining initial qualification


33 posted on 01/02/2012 5:19:12 PM PST by mathurine
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To: decimon
Obviously you have never seen THIS !!
34 posted on 01/02/2012 5:25:23 PM PST by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: decimon

I don’t want to know about Kanzi’s past.


35 posted on 01/02/2012 5:29:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: grey_whiskers
Not gonna go there; like shooting fish in a barrel

If you're a LEO, I believe the modern metaphor is "like shooting dogs on a chain."

36 posted on 01/02/2012 6:29:42 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: Hot Tabasco
I don’t think teaching apes to do this stuff is such a good thing.......next thing you know, they’ll run for politics in the GOP and end up with a host of followers trashing everyone who doesn’t support him.........

Oh, my! That's all we need, another Kenyan in the White House!

37 posted on 01/02/2012 6:34:06 PM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: mathurine

Rest assured, if apes ever do learn to BBQ, and they make their own homemade BBQ sauce, I bet I know what the “secret ingredient” in it will be.(*)

(*) Beer. It is always beer. Though those who love to BBQ get unhappy when you tell them that you know what their “secret ingredient” is.


38 posted on 01/02/2012 7:04:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: marstegreg

You have a point but since the first human figured out how to make fire how many other humans figured it out on their own and how many just learned it from someone who learned it?


39 posted on 01/03/2012 4:54:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

You have a point but since the first human figured out how to make fire how many other humans figured it out on their own and how many just learned it from someone who learned it?

I was mostly trying to point out mans ingenuity. Even today, if there is a problem humans (some humans) need to solve it. That’s one of our best qualities. Even though only one came up with harassing fire, another came up with pottery, yet another came up with better shetlers and so on.


40 posted on 01/04/2012 4:54:43 AM PST by marstegreg
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