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Inalienable Rights: Is the U.S. 'Coming Apart'
The Aspen Times ^ | February 23, 2012 | Charlie Leonard

Posted on 02/23/2012 9:13:48 AM PST by Aspenhuskerette

For more than 200 years, the United States has embraced a set of beliefs that set us apart from the rest of the world. We almost universally put faith, family and community at the center of our lives. And we believed that if we lived by the twin values of hard work and determination, anything was possible.

Our American virtues became a defining characteristic of our culture and permeated all facets of our lives, beyond just family and work, and included scholarship, the arts, athletics and more.

On the smallest scale, we saw these virtues propel immigrant farmers and shopkeepers into the ranks of the American middle class within a single generation. On a larger scale, virtually all of our heroes and icons were people who persevered against tremendous odds to triumph over adversity, obstacles and competition. Horatio Alger's stories of “rags to riches” not only symbolized the American experience — it often factually portrayed it, as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at aspentimes.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: countdown2war; usvaluesvirtues
Charles Murray has written an important book on which this column is based.
1 posted on 02/23/2012 9:13:54 AM PST by Aspenhuskerette
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To: Aspenhuskerette
Is America coming apart? I would say yes.

"And with what execration should the statesman be loaded, who permitting one half the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other, transforms those into despots, and these into enemies, destroys the morals of the one part, and the amor patriae of the other. For if a slave can have a country in this world, it must be any other in preference to that in which he is born to live and labour for another: in which he must lock up the faculties of his nature, contribute as far as depends on his individual endeavours to the evanishment of the human race, or entail his own miserable condition on the endless generations proceeding from him. With the morals of the people, their industry also is destroyed. For in a warm climate, no man will labour for himself who can make another labour for him. This is so true, that of the proprietors of slaves a very small proportion indeed are ever seen to labour." - Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 18, 1781, Thomas Jefferson.

As true now as it was then...

2 posted on 02/23/2012 9:20:54 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse
Some things never change. Titus Livy, in the introduction to his monumental history of Rome remarked that his purpose in writing was ...

"...to trace the progress of our moral decline, to watch, first, the sinking of the foundations of morality as the old teaching was allowed to lapse, then the rapidly increasing disintegration, then the final collapse of the whole edifice, and the dark dawning of our modern day when we can neither endure our vices nor face the remedies needed to cure them."

The people of Rome could do neither and night fell in the Western world for a thousand years. What remedies do we face in order to rid ourselves of the will-to-power driven monsters who have gained more and more control of the apparatus of the State? I think we know the answer to that question.

3 posted on 02/23/2012 9:57:36 AM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Dead Corpse

The more the family unit is destroyed—their offspring will be emotionally crippled, weak and prone to immorality since it was modeled behavior unless they have a moral adult who will pick up their lives. Immature people/selfish/immoral weak people have children out of wedlock for the most part.

The rate is now at least 50%. Gramsci, Marcuse and those who infested our universities in the early 1900s, stated in their manifesto—to bring down Western Civilization, we need to destroy the two pillars of the Civilization: The Natural Family and Christianity.

Their tool: The media and the schools—to sexualize children and destroy all Christian Ethics. Promote evil and dysfunction and immorality. Introduce Tolerance as the only virtue—so evil will not be judged—therefore, it will become widespread and popular. Evil always gives the illusion of fun and pleasure but ruins all relationships in the end—which destroys the children who fall for their lies.


4 posted on 02/23/2012 10:04:47 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Noumenon
The Greeks warned us. The Romans warned us. The Founding Fathers warned us...

And yet, here we are.

5 posted on 02/23/2012 10:06:57 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse; Aspenhuskerette
Is America coming apart? I would say yes.

What about secession?

Can it be done peacefully?

6 posted on 02/23/2012 10:07:33 AM PST by wmfights
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To: wmfights
What about secession?

Can it be done peacefully?


Our nearest example in time is USSR. Surprisingly the satellite countries did secede but only when USSR went broke. Things will change here ONLY when the cashfow stops...............
7 posted on 02/23/2012 10:12:34 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: wmfights
How'd that work out last time? The same kinds of arguments would be levied today.

Anyone trying to secede would be painted with the "Confederate"/"Racist" label. There doesn't need to be truth behind such accusations, they just need to repeat it ad nauseum.

8 posted on 02/23/2012 10:18:41 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Our nearest example in time is USSR. Surprisingly the satellite countries did secede but only when USSR went broke. Things will change here ONLY when the cashfow stops...............

Great example!

Clearly we have 2 America's, the liberal north and the conservative south. obama and the Rats have set us on a course to bankruptcy. Our military is being diminished and our role as a super power is being diminished. Why not look for a peaceful resolution and go our separate ways?

9 posted on 02/23/2012 10:19:26 AM PST by wmfights
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To: Dead Corpse
How'd that work out last time? The same kinds of arguments would be levied today.

They would be false. The underlying impetus the last time was the moral imperative of ending slavery. It no longer exists.

Was the right to secede ever resolved in court?

I don't believe it can be done by force, but why would a predominantly liberal north want to stay with a predominantly conservative south?

10 posted on 02/23/2012 10:23:52 AM PST by wmfights
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To: wmfights
Control. It doesn't matter if their accusations make sense or have any truth behind them. All that matters these days is the seriousness of the charge.

I think Lincoln's actions would be used as amicus in any legal venue to torpedo any attempt at secession via the Courts. If it was done anyway... Expect the tanks to roll in.

11 posted on 02/23/2012 10:28:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Noumenon

“night fell in the Western world for a thousand years”

Not true...not even close.


12 posted on 02/23/2012 10:30:46 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Dead Corpse; DuncanWaring
Time for a bit of Rudyard Kipling:

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

The Gods of the Copybook Headings - 1919

13 posted on 02/23/2012 10:34:31 AM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: wmfights
How'd that work out last time? The same kinds of arguments would be levied today.

They would be false. The underlying impetus the last time was the moral imperative of ending slavery. It no longer exists.

Of course it does. The Liberal elites have enslaved American blacks even more firmly then did the old south.

14 posted on 02/23/2012 11:16:05 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: Noumenon; Dead Corpse

From the vantage point of 1919, Kipling predicted the next century.

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return indeed.


15 posted on 02/23/2012 11:43:24 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: achilles2000

Then why is that period referred to as the “Dark Ages”?


16 posted on 02/23/2012 11:48:18 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wmfights; Travis McGee
Clearly we have 2 America's, the liberal north and the conservative south.

More like liberal urban and conservative rural.


17 posted on 02/23/2012 11:53:08 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

“Then why is that period referred to as the “Dark Ages”?”

Because Petrarch coined the phrase and subsequent humanists found it useful for advancing their views...


18 posted on 02/23/2012 1:11:56 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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