Skip to comments.Drop Out Mitt Romney
Posted on 03/26/2012 10:57:00 AM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstance in November. The fact that he is the frontrunner is a disgrace and those that endorse him, those delegates that vote for him, and the establishment have my full contempt. He is the John Kerry of the Republican Party. His record is very liberal on virtually every issue. He is a shameless opportuntist..the etch sketch will reset for the general election. If you support the second amendment, marriage, pro-life cause, etc., how can you justify voting for Mitt Romney? He's treating republicans, or at least conservatives, like idiots while his surrogates plan to dump the weak, phony campaign of faux conservatism at the next step. He will lose worse than Ford, Dole, and McCain.
Both of you are quite obviously correct.
The mistake you’re making is in thinking that the vast bulk of the American electorate is going to make a decision based on logic and some sort of a real analysis the way you or I would. I believe there are a lot of people out there who are going to vote for the person they feel has the bigger Johnson, and the thing which is really hard to get your head around is that those people’s votes count for exactly as much as ours do. The one thing we know about Romney is that he is the only one of the remaining candidates ever to win an election outside of solid red territory. He does seem to believe in American exceptionalism and he would not keep the present damper on American energy policy. I know that isn’t much, but it’s better than all numbers coming in negative which is what we have now.
Right now I am not voting for President, either for Etch-a-sketch or O-Bomb-Us. If Etch-a-sketch starts to run towards the middle and really pisses me off I may actually do the unthinkable. Screw the NeoWhig Party.
Yes, Romney’s most atrocious action was with regard to marriage. He supports the homosexual agenda as rabidly as any leftist I’ve seen..he destroyed the institution of marriage, he supported companies with radical social agendas, he supports homosrxuals in the military, he appointed homosexual activists to the bench, he endorsed youth gay pride parades, and the list goes on and on.
We MUST vote Republican, regardless of who it is. We MUST show solidarity, hold the line shoulder to shoulder, urge everyone you know to vote not for Romney, but AGAINST OBAMA.
This will buy us enough time to take the Republican party back to it's constitutional roots.
Got a fortune cookie yesterday with my lunch, that reminds me of this thread. The fortune said, Dont argue with vain people with empty minds.
No matter how much logic we use, to convince people we MUST vote for the Republican ticket in November Americas survival depends on it, - there are some who will never ever listen. Fortunately they are a very tiny percentage. And notice, we here very little from Paulbots anymore, I suspect most of them come from that camp, masking themselves as something else, to divide us.
So teach me.
I thought his main private sector experience was Bain Capital and Bain Capital shining star was Staples. If Staples' success was due to government intervention then I'll probably join you (though there still would be the atrocities thing) but if Staples' success was just due to doing it better for all of us who buy pens and paper then maybe you'll agree to hold your nose if that's what it comes down to.
Santorum? Hilarious. Now there’s a recipe for an Obama-stacked supreme court.
I disagree. I have faith in the voting public, whereas you do not. Rather, it is a case of people not voting to vote for a candidate who doesn’t represent them and fails to offer any alternative. As for the two vague reasons you offer, let me point out Romney still believes in global warming and implemented his own cap and trade. Romney did become govenor in 2002, but Reagan won his state with 200,000 more votes in the 80s, Romney didn’t run for re-election because he was going to lose and the republicans were broken after 2006. And I could argue by that logic for Santorum winning a blue state.
You know something. I didn't read far enough into your post.
I already picked two issues, and you dodged one and ignored the other. (I know it was just a little thing like John Kerry's Winter Soldier thing, but still!)
Whose side are you on?
Very sage advice.
I should know better by now than to jump into these threads. I’d be better off dropping a hammer on my toe.
“No, what’s dumb is voting for somone that doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning against Obama.”
Which is why Santorum is not my first choice.
Your delusional to the point of absurdity..do you really want take a look at judicial nominees appointed by Romney as govenor? You know, maybe your right, only solidly liberal republicans will guaruntee a defeat of Obama and bring forth conservative appointments to the bench.
Then don’t make Romney the GOP nominee.
Interesting, you invoke Joe McCarthy who warned about Soviet Penetration of our government as a defense of Romney penetrating the Republican Party and call on us to vote for “anyone” regardless of who they are or what they stand for..amazing twists and turns.
Do you seriously think Romney would appoint another "wise Latina" to the Court?
Watch the Brietbart 2012 CPAC Speech, all the way to the end and get back to me.
Dictator Baby-Doc Barack has ALWAYS ignored The US Constitution, ESPECIALLY with Obamacare.
The cancer of Obamacare now has invaded World Finances as Obama last week choose a Public health expert for the World Bank Presidency.
Romney has promised to “Repeal and REPLACE” Obama”care.”
Senator (R Tn) Son-of-a-Mitch McConnell has promised to “Repeal and REPLACE” Obama”care.”
The major problem with THE NINE SUPREMES is that they are chosen for political reasons by the POTUS, and then they vote as an un-accountable democracy, for a Nation that is NOT a Democracy, but a REPUBLIC.
As a result, THE NINE SUPREMES commonly vote 5 to 4 on most issues. Constitutionality is seldom a consideration, and their up-coming ruling on Obamacare will prove my point.
Now is the time to stand and deliver to address our grievances to the dictates of the Left.
Oppose the dictates of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack!
Our ONLY chance to ABOLISH Obamacare rests with THE NINE SUPREMES, because Romney will be defeated by Obama.
IMHO, if Romney is anointed as the RNC Nominee, THE main issue in the National Election, Obamacare, will be taken off the campaign table. Hence, Romney will not only lose, but suffer another crushing, and sadly typical, RINO defeat.
To those who want poster ideas, here are a few ideas for demonstration posters:
Obamacare was robo-signed by Congress, and is therefore illegal.
Obamacare was 2700 pages long, and is still being written, but not by Congress: witness the forced contraception coverage recently added by HHS Regulators.
Obamacare has caused The Catholic Spring.
Obamacare reduces competition, and therefore is illegal by the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.
Obamacare is designed to be a US Federal Government monopoly, with no competition.
Obamacare also is illegal according to the US Constitution, because it violates our freedom of choice.
Will THE NINE SUPREMES notice any of these three violations? I seriously doubt it.
Impeached Bill Clinton proved that the US President is above US Federal Law, so anything that the President wants he gets, regardless of the Federal Laws that he has violated.
Whether he is elected or loses to Obama, which is most probable, the effect of allowing a two-way race Obama vs. wObama (white-Obama, a/k/a Romney) will be to ratify fundamental transformation. This cannot be permitted to occur.
It is essential that there be a third option. In a country that is 40% conservative, to have a race with no conservative is ridiculous.
Since nobody cares how you vote, or whether you vote, you must be trying to change the minds of people who are planning on voting for Romney.
You are going about this backwards. I already know all the bad news about Romney. That’s not the central question of the election.
The central question you must answer is, “How will Obama be a better president than Romney?”
Please, by all means, because you haven’t shown any logic, you can’t dispute that Romney is a wasted vote, and while we agree on how destructive Obama is..we differ in that in your desperation you will abandon conservatism for a false hope ultimately dooming us to the same fate. Make a case or quit pretending to be so reasonable.
He has earned the majority of delegates so far and is in the
lead. Most of the voters in the GOP primary are Republicans;
some may be unenrolled or even Dem. depending on the state.
For those, they could be either a) liberals trying their
own Operation Chaos to derail the GOP, or b) moderates
who might be fiscal, military, etc. conservatives but are
more moderate on social issues. They prefer him.
Maybe the GOP as a whole—voters—happens to be more
moderate than expected. People call him a RINO, but most people voting for him are Republicans. Perhaps it would
be more accurate to call him a Conservative-in-name-only
and we can say the party is now moderate rather than
As we move through the rest of the states we’ll see
if he can become the nominee, and we’ll see if he can
beat Obama (or if Rick, etc., can). Maybe so, maybe not,
but so far he’s in the lead.
It looks weak, though, to demand a candidate clearly in
the lead in delegates to step down. There are other
options ranging from third party (oh God no, it would
help Obama) to putting up someone else in ‘16, who would be more conservative and more electable.
The delegate math favors Romney now, but who knows. (And
for the record, the Left is licking their chops at the idea of a “brokered convention”—it would make the GOP
I’ll add that if unenrolleds are the problem, then each and every state should demand that only registered Republicans
can vote GOP. (I doubt that would happen.)
In my home state of MA, the number of registered Republicans is at a mighty 11 per cent. Not too many people would be voting in the primary if that were to be. Unenrolleds and of course
Dems far outnumber us.
Robamney won exactly one election, ending a string of "Republican" governors of Taxachusetts. He did so by cuddling up to the perps of the abortion holocaust, by giving personal money to Planned Barrenhood, by advocating the acceptance of "gay" perversion, by being a gun grabber, and by being a materialist meathead. AFTER he lied and claimed to have become pro-life in 2005, he established in 2006 his mandatory socialized medicine scheme forcing the Catholic Church and other pro-life churches and folks to fund abortions and birth control and other immorality through their premiums and providing abortions with a $50 co-pay and putting Planned Barrenhood on the Board of Robamneycare. Then, he ran away with his tail between his legs when his favorables dropped to 38% and turned Taxachusetts over to Coupe Deval Patrick, Obamanation East.
Georgia was no reliable "red state" when Gingrich first won election as a congressman there. Jimmuh Peanut was POTUS and carried Georgia in 1976 and 1980. Peanut had been GA governor when elected POTUS. Other Democrat governors since then included Ben Barnes and Zell Miller. Zell Miller (a generally fine man though Democrat) was elected to the Senate after serving as governor. The execrable Max Cleland was also elected US senator from GA after Newt was elected to Congress. So, let's give a rest to the notion that GA was a "solid red" state. That has no more credibility than does the Massachusetts mushball.
Pennsylvania? Solid red territory???? Puhleeze! Other than Ronald Reagan's campaigns, would you care to list the POTUS elections when Pennsylvania voted GOP??? Would a governor like Eddie Rendell (Demonrat National Chairman) sound to you like a victor in "solid red territory?" The late Governor Robert Casey was a moderate (not an absolute) social conservative but certainly not a Republican. Robert Casey, Jr., is far, far worse than his dad. VP Joseph Gaffe Biden is, as are the Caseys, a native of Scranton. Did you see the Republican Arlen Specter as a Republican in reality or as a Democrat Senator in training within the GOP caucus? Politically, former GOP governor Tom Ridge was about as conservative as Janet Napolitano or Willard Robamney. Spare us. Jerry Sandusky may have a future in the PA GOP in the unlikely event that he is not convicted and imprisoned forever. OR Willard can etch-a-sketch his post-nomination campaign by promising to the pervert American community that he will pardon Sandusky at the inauguration and name him to the cabinet (as a recess appointment, if necessary).
Mitt Romney no more believes in American exceptionalism than Obozo does. He will soon enough put a damper on energy policy as a pseudo-Republican advocate of Cap and Tax. After all, raise the price enough and maybe Ann Romney can drive both Cadillacs at once without all those uppity serfs clogging her highways. Of course, she more likely drives Rolls Royces, but never mind! Ohhhh, Muffy! Ohhhh, Skipper! Isn't the Mittwit just wonderful!!!! He understands our every priority and not just the protection and enhancement of our trust funds!!!!! No more "anti-choicers" or narrow-minded folks who refuse to recognize the need for same sex "marriage" or just icky wars. Mitt will attend yacht regattas and polo tournaments as America's most important sports events every year. No more of those loser peasants who cling to their guns and their bibles interfering in OUR political party! It will just be so wonderful!
You’re right. But ***WHAT’S*** the alternative?
BANG! You NAILED it! That comment deserves its own thread!!!
False dichotomy..I vote for candidates that represente me in government, that share my values, and certain issues cannot be overlooked. I believe firmly in Conservatism. The difference between us is that while we both oppose Obama, you will vote for anyone whereas I insist on a minimum standard at the very least.
I don't care who Robamney chooses for VP. I don't care what additional lies he tells to snooker the sheeple. I don't care if each and every Founding Father rises from the dead to endorse Robamney who is nothing more than Obozo in white face. I don't even care if Ronald Reagan rises from the dead to endorse Robamney. He does not get my vote or the vote of anyone I can influence. Not now and not ever.
You were doing so well until this line. No, sir, we must support a Conservative for President. Voting for a Socialist on the "R" line merely hastens the destruction of the Republican Party and our nation. But that's the plan all along for the left. Willard is the vehicle for the destruction. Zero can't destroy the Republican Party from within because he's not running as one, but Willard can and will.
One may refrain from voting for POTUS altogether.
One may vote for Eternal Vigilance (Tom Hoefling).
One can vote for other worthy candidates (ABR/ABO).
One can write in, although most write-ins won't be counted.
In any event, one can and should pray, repent, and rely on Almighty God to protect this badly wounded nation (as He has so often in the past) in its time of need. If the survival and moral prospering of this nation is not in God's plan, we won't be the first nation nor likely the last to suffer such a fate and we cannot very well say that we did not deserve to go the way of so many dead punished nations. It is utterly amazing that God has put up with us as long as He has.
When even FReepers don't care, I fear I may have to look to Canada, Israel, or New Zealand. I think they probably all abort babies, but I also think they all believe in private property.
These are times which try men's souls.
What I said was,”We MUST vote Republican, regardless of who it is. We MUST show solidarity, hold the line shoulder to shoulder, urge everyone you know to vote not for Romney, but AGAINST OBAMA.”
If an overwhelming majority votes AGAINST OBAMA, then as sure as there is a Saint Fred,(or whoever Mitt worships)Romeny will FLOP toward conservatism in his second or third year. No doubt about it.
You must not have understood what I’ve written. Willard is a Socialist. It’s that simple. He won’t “flip” to Conservatism. What he says now are pure unadulterated lies designed to get those who don’t know his record and history to support him. His record in office is clear, he is a left-winger. Always has been, always is, always will be. Willard can and will inflict damage that Zero cannot, simply because Zero isn’t attempting to run as a Republican. Any “Conservative” voting for Slick Willard is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.
Fine! I won’t be voting for a Republican just because there is an (R) next to his name. He has to earn my vote every bit as much as anyone else. If the Republicans, including yourself, don’t want the liberal Democrat to win then try running something other than a liberal as a Republican.
We're talking matters of degrees here, so YES I believe his judicial picks will be better than the "wise Latina." G-d knows they cannot be any worse.
Do you support marriage and do you oppose abortion? Do you support the 2nd amendment? If so, why would you vote for Mitt Romney.
You don’t see it yet.
Kruschev and Sen. Joe were both correct.
We are being denied the choice to say NO to Socialsim.
The only difference between Mitt and Obama is that one of them is the encumbent who has brazenly ignored his vow to protect the Constitution. Yes Mitt will do the same. The fix is in.
It’s a setup.
At this point, we have already lost!
The only thing we can do is overwhelmingly throw the encumbent out, then get busy as a one armed paper hanger and start to change things.
Thanks for your response.
Please don’t put words in my mouth. Your sentence about my voting preference is incomplete. I’ll vote for anyone I feel will make a better president than Obama.
I think all the Republican candidates are far superior to Obama. I feel a random pick from the phone book would be superior to Obama. My primary has passed so now I wait for the general. Newt was my choice in the primary.
I’m not about to miss my last chance to vote against Barack Obama. I’m not at all interested in changing your mind about not voting or whatever you plan to do. It’s all good with me.
Ford barley lost unlike Dole and McCain. And I don’t think you can compare Dole to Ford in terms of level of RINOtude. He wouldn’t have been my first choice but I would rather have had Dole as President than either Bush. He would have won in 1988 or 2000, he won the nomination in the wrong year. To beat Clinton he and Newt would have had to have done a better job in charge of Congress. Clinton and Dick Morris kicked the crap out of them.
Romney if nominated might lose but there is no way Obama’s margin wouldn’t be much smaller against either Santorum or Romney. This will be an election more like 2004. 2008 was an anti-Republican year, no Republican was gonna win that year, RINO or conservative, not with a bad economy and an unpopular RINO sitting in the White House.
Therein lies the danger with Romney, the last thing we need is another RINO QB throwing pick 6’s to the rats.
Illogical, unreasonable, unfair, and untrue.
If someone refuses to drink cyanide is that, in your mind, a vote for ingesting ricin?
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-- Samuel Adams
“Your delusional to the point of absurdity”
Ok, now that we’ve established you’re an asshole, I’ll deign to explain myself:
- Voting for Obama is anti-American (to the point of criminal negligence).
- Not voting is anti-American and a slap in the face to those who sacrificed for your right to do so.
- Voting for some write-in half-wit who has no chance to win is a vote for Obama; see point one above.
Maybe if people like you had held your nose and pulled the lever in 2008, Elena Kagan would still be ny Ivy hack with no judicial experience instead of one out of nine votes deciding Obamacare. I blame Obama, idiots who voted for Obama, and then people like you for the mess we’re in now.
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