Posted on 05/01/2012 8:54:06 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
RARELY post anything...this is a total vanity, but, I would like some input. We have a customer who has a 14 year old son that got the WRONG Gardasil shot last fall. The clinic where he got the shot notified them 3 months after the fact that he got the FEMALE version, instead of the MALE version, along with 15 other boys (they wanted his parents to bring him back in for the male version...and they refused, I think, luckily). Just in the last month, this kid has had total pancreatic failure, and now must take insulin shots, and monitor his blood sugar before EVERY meal, for the REST of his life. I can't help but think this is related to the Gardasil. I've done some googling, but can't really find anything out there. Does anyone out there in Freeper-land have any experience in this, and can clue me in? I just feel horrible for our customer and his kid, and as soon as I heard the words 'Gardasil' and 'mistake', red flags went up BIGTIME!! Thanks FREEPERS!
Or it could be one of those really awful coincidences.... your description is one of early onset diabetes. Does anyone in his family (uncle, cousin, grandparent, sibling, or parent) have diabetes?
Or it could be one of those really awful coincidences.... your description is one of early onset diabetes. Does anyone in his family (uncle, cousin, grandparent, sibling, or parent) have diabetes?
Never heard of different boy and girl vaccines, at all. Viruses don’t care which sex you are.
And there is only one dosing protocol and one form of Gardasil. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf
Someone got the story very mixed up.
As to this boy, it sounds as though he has juvenile onset diabetes.
This would be hard to prove, I think. Early onset- or type 1 diabetes commonly strikes about this age. As a school nurse, I would say that it doesn’t seem to be related, but his family should talk with the doctor.
Well don’t mention this if you are running for office or conservatives even here at FR will crucify you (Search: “Michelle Bachmann”).
But I have a neighbor girl who within 2 days of getting the shot is just slightly above what appears to be a vegetative state for the last 2 years.
The stats on the test subjects are at the Merck site. Out of almost 30,000 individuals (girls and women) given Gardasil two came down with diabetes insulin depend type. This was the same number as the number of individuals that came down with diabetes insulin dependent type in the control group.
This is what is often called statistically insignificant and non-causal.
While it maybe that this is what ‘caused’ the failure of this young man’s pancreatic failure it will be a tough haul to actually prove it.
Am I missing something here or just being an old fuddy-duddy??
It’s called Type 1 Diabetes, or juvenile diabetes.
It does not sound like he has complete pancreatic failure. The pancreas also puts out enzymes that the stomach has to have to process food.
I know. Let’s stop pumping behavior-problem-drugs into our kids and get back to spending time with them.
There is no difference. It is dosed the same and given the same.
My guess is that the pediatrician suggested it and the parents said yes. There are a bunch of the ‘newer’ vaccines that I made sure my child never received
WHile The Juvenile Diabetes Foundation still uses the term, doctors haven’t used the term ‘juvenile’ for a very long time. Insulin dependent diabetes can occur at almost anytime in one’s life-—
Lawyer Central Network, LLC apparently owns classaction.org which has a page on Gardasil which includes a link to a case review form:
http://www.classaction.org/gardasil.html
classaction.org reports on this page that several lawsuits have been filed.
Here is a link to report at FDA website dated March 13, 2012.
Apparently the typical pharmaceutical lawsuit cycle is just getting started for this product.
Of course, I am not making any representations about classaction.org or it’s owners or affiliates.
I ain’t a lawyer !
I just found those links, thought you might find them useful.
Oh, the pdf file, remember, when you open the pdf file you can search in it. If you search for the word diabetes you’ll find the counts for it; pancreatitis is right above it in the list.
God bless.
Well you are wrong about that.
“Insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus (IDDM) is a medical term that describes diabetes mellitus that requires insulin therapy to avoid ketoacidosis. IDDM is often considered a synonym for juvenile diabetes mellitus and type 1 diabetes mellitus, though the three terms are not entirely congruent:
Juvenile diabetes is considered an unsatisfactory and somewhat obsolete term because type 1 diabetes can develop in adults, and type 2 can occur in children.
IDDM includes type 1 diabetes, but as type 2 diabetes progresses, in some people it may reach a degree of insulin deficiency that requires insulin treatment.”
I really doubt that he had total pancreatic failure. If he did he would be required to take all kinds of supplements to help him digest fats and other foods. He would also be so sick he would reqiire hospitalization. I know this firsthand as I was hospitalized with pancreatitis for 5 months last year and was placed on a ventilator for two weeks. The pancreas also has specific cells in it that secrete insulin, They are called schwan cells. The death of these cells cause insulin dependant diabetes. I’m an RN and the hot topic lately is that this is caused by an autoimmune response where your body attacks these schwan cells and therefore there is no insulin production. I have not heard about any gardasil problems with the pancreas. If a problem showed up it would most likley be with the liver as it is the body’s most important organ and cleanses the body of all its poisions that it produces just by living. My prayers are with this young boy and I wish him well. There is also alot of hope with stem cell injections to produce new schwan cells that this family should look into. God Bless
My brother’s pancreas worked for a while, then quit. At 2 y.o.
What’s more interesting is that occasionally his pancreas functions (for part of a night), and it causes the worst problems ever (low blood sugar).
I really don’t think this is the vaccination causing this. It’s just the way Juvenile Diabetes sets in. One day you are OK, the next day you are insulin dependent for the rest of your life.
My brother had zero vaccinations at 2 y.o. He is lucky and is now at the age of 34, thanks to the technology of the insulin pump. I hope one day integrated blood sugar monitoring and insulin delivery systems can give him something even closer to a normal life. The occasional ultra low blood sugars are just scary.
As for Gardasil, I will give it to my kids when I have them. Even if my kids are angels, they may end marrying someone who was not such an angel, and HPV is a very insidious virus, and kills lots of women via cervical cancer, and has the potential to trigger cancers in males as well.
Because the virus itself is so stealthy, carriers usually don’t even know they have it. People usually discover it as a source of their tumors or genital warts years after they are infected.
Since the founding of this nation, each year, more and more people experiment with sex. If you find the perfect virgin mate, good for you! But many won’t, and they should protect themselves, since the protection is now available.
The pancreas does not need to completely fail to cause diabetes, only the area called “The Islets of Langerhans”.
Gardasil is given to both males and females. The female-only version of the vaccine is called Cervarix.

I reckon you must HATE the 10th amendment and don't understand STATES rights. Or you just don't have a heart.
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Cervarix is another HPV vaccine *brand.* It is not a “female only version.”
2. Noticed some report a few days ago about young people getting type II diabetes and not responding to treatment.
Wow, wonder what went wrong here? /S
Prayers for the kid and his family.
My wife deals with this as well. Sometimes her pancreas will “wake up” just long enough to send her sugars to the basement. She is also a brittle diabetic. It means she can swing 50+ points very quickly.
She is also starting to have stomach problems with processing much of anything. Takes a drug store to keep things working properly in her stomach. But even then there are days where nothing works and things kinda back up in there.
My wife ended up with type 1 during a hospital stay. She went in for surgery on her ankle. They suspect they gave her to many steroids and that is what triggered the onset.
Regardless today she lives with a accucheck pump, dexcom blood sugar monitor and a very limited diet.
http://www.natap.org/2007/newsUpdates/012207_04.htm
Both vaccines contain adjuvants. I won’t give my cats vaccines that have adjuvants, so I can’t imagine giving a human child ANY vaccine whatsoever that contains adjuvants. (It’s well known that cat vaccines with adjuvants are causing an epidemic of hyperthyroidism and injection-site carcinomas.)
why the hell should a 14 yro girl get this injection?....
A lot of girls have life long problems from Gardasil, and some are dead.
Do. Not. Vaccinate. Your kids with this.
Because our Western Civilization is crashing around us?
Yeah, VAERS is really your best source of vaccine information. The gardasil vaccine is seriously bad news.
So you figure your boys will be at risk for anal cancer??? This young MAN unless homosexual has no need for gardasil.
Frankly the truth is that annual pap smears and monogamy in a relationship will do more to protect from cervical cancer than anything else. If you think that gardasil is a good vaccine you ought to do a bit more research about it’s effectiveness and what exactly it protects against. Truth is people have been sold a bill of goods on this one.....kind of like the hep B vaccine.
But you seem to be describing type I diabetes which is thought to be an autoimmune reaction to a virus.
This British study shows no increase in the rate of type I diabetes or other autoimmune problems link
the vaccine is a good one, especially since we docs have seen an epidemic of promiscuity associated cervical cancer since I started medicine in the 1960's...alas, even if your daughter is a virgin there is no guarantee she will marry a virgin, and of course date rape is too commmon...which is why Focus on the Family recommends it for girls.
Boys getting a girls' dose shouldn't be a problem...
there is a lot of vaccine hysteria out there, mostly by folks who aren't old enough to remember what the actual diseases looked like. It seems to be more similar to the "witch hysteria" of the 1500's or the anti communist hysteria of the 1920's; a real problem but blown way out of proportion to the extent that the hysteria damage is much worse than the worry itself.
I've worked in Africa and we saw all of them, which is why I'm pro vaccine.
young people are getting type II diabetes because they are too fat. Period.
Type I diabetes is probably from a virus that makes the body produce immune reactions against the part of the pancreas that produces insulin.
Personally, I think pollution and plastic and modern fatty foods are behind the obesity epidemic that has even hit us here in the Philippines. On the other hand, the alternative of living a “natural” life can be overblown. As my husband reminds me: You are only poor if you are hungry, and he remembers the good old days when there wasn’t enough food.
My wife ended up with type 1 during a hospital stay. She went in for surgery on her ankle. They suspect they gave her to many steroids and that is what triggered the onset_______________________________________________________My husband was treated with steroids for a medical condition and developed diabetes. The doctor said “we were afraid this would happen” but we were not warned about the possibility.
If you have any family history of diabetes and will be taking steroids, know that they can kick off diabetes in you too.
sometimes vaccines can cause a fatal hemorrhagic
pancreatitis...usually soon after the vaccine is given
check this article about gardisil and pancreatitis
http://www.naturalnews.com/024233_vaccine_Gardasil_girls.html
Juvie diabetes is thought to be caused by viruses.
here is another report linking guardisil and pancreatitis.
Judicial Watch Uncovers FDA Gardasil Records Detailing 26 New Reported Deaths
October 19, 2011 | No Comments
Other Adverse Reactions Include: Seizures, Paralysis, Blindness, Pancreatitis, Speech Problems and Short Term Memory Loss
Contact Information:
Press Office 202-646-5172, ext 305
Washington, DC October 19, 2011
Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has received new documents from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), detailing reports of adverse reactions to the vaccination for human papillomavirus (HPV), Gardasil. The adverse reaction reports detail 26 new deaths reported between September 1, 2010 and September 15, 2011 as well as incidents of seizures, paralysis, blindness, PANCREATITIS , speech problems, short term memory loss and Guillain-Barré Syndrome. The documents come from the FDAs Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) which is used by the FDA to monitor the safety of vaccines. The documents were obtained pursuant to a September 15, 2011 FOIA request for reports made from September 1, 2010 through September 15, 2011.
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What is dumb is paying big bucks for something that MAY prevent a disease but the individual will never know that it worked.
You are wrong about doctors not using the term juvenile.
They do, all the time.
Thanks for the great replies and links everyone. I’m going to ask him for his email and send him the link to this page. GREAT info, and also very WORRYING info.
Nifster,
Gardasil can protect against 90% of genital warts cases for males.
Generally speaking, male genitalia are not found in their anuses. I would recommend a good read on human anatomy so you can learn where male genitalia are, I wasn’t aware that you had no idea where male genitals are found. Sometimes I make assumptions about the information my readers have on tap from which they can form their arguments.
If you marry a woman who has not kept her chastity, and then have sex with her, and you do not have the HPV vaccine, you have great potential for genetial warts, if her last partner had HPV.
Several years ago, we had our daughter vaccinated with Gardacil after discussing it with her physician and several physician friends of ours who also have daughters of the same age. But the decision was not at all obvious, given the known side effects of this vaccine, the fact that HPV is ubiquitous in the population, and the fact that cervical cancer is very rare.
As for giving the vaccine to boys, I would have to know more about the prevalence of HPV-related cancers in men. I suspect, but do not know, that it is lower than the prevalence of HPV-related cancers in women.
The docs I know ( who happen to specialize in the treatment) do not and have not for years.
Doesn’t matter. You ignored the quoted statement that explained why it is not the preferred or even usual term.
None of it really matters unless of course one is suffering from insulin dependent type diabetes
Interestingly enough it is the Merck website that promotes Gardasil for men to prevent anal cancers... and for those active in the homosexual community I would think that might be something they would consider.
Your snarky response only shows your lack of information
Either you have anal on the brain, or you are unable to completely read the website.
“In boys and young men ages 9 to 26, GARDASIL helps protect against 90% of genital warts cases.”
Copied right from the site.
Really, you should read the material on their website before focusing on anuses.
Cervarix is for females only. Read the package insert.
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