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Travon Martin's family attorney giving orders to MSM how to spin story
Fox News Latino ^ | May 18, 2012 | Fox News Latino

Posted on 05/18/2012 9:26:30 AM PDT by Fido969

"The police concluded that none of this would have happened if George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car," said attorney Ben Crump. "If George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car, they say it was completely avoidable. That is the headline."

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: martin; trayvon; zimmerman
How interesting that all the leftie mindless MSM reporter-bots just happened to come up with the SAME headlines!

Just do a news search for "Trayvon", and you'll see.

They were ORDERED to by their race-baiting masters!

1 posted on 05/18/2012 9:26:38 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

No one in Washington should get out of their cars. None of the mess we are in now would have happened.....


2 posted on 05/18/2012 9:29:38 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Fido969

So I guess that folks like me...you know,bitter clingers...must spend their entire lives huddled in the rooms in order to avoid being assaulted by young,intoxicated,punks.


3 posted on 05/18/2012 9:30:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: another casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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To: Fido969

No it wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t got out of the car but that is what good citizens do, they try to help their community out.


4 posted on 05/18/2012 9:31:15 AM PDT by wild74
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To: Fido969
Better yet, if Zimmerman had just stayed in his house with the blinds drawn and never left, ever, this whole situation could have been avoided.

Or it could have been avoided by Martin not casing houses.

5 posted on 05/18/2012 9:31:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: Fido969
Tell me if I have this straight:

It should be against the law for some 'white hispanic' to get out of his vehicle.

but

It is perfectly natural for a guy from the 'hood to break his nose and pound a member of a lesser race's head against the pavement if he feels offended.

6 posted on 05/18/2012 9:32:00 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Fido969
None of this would have happened if Martin hadn't left his condo and gone out in the rain.

-PJ

7 posted on 05/18/2012 9:32:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Fido969

Its typical liberal psychotic behavior. They don’t want anyone to defend themselves or their property. Of course its zimmerman’s fault for seeing a hooded individual prowling around the neighborhood and then doing something about it. Its all because of the color of his skin. If it was a white kid that got shot they would be cheering Zimmerman as a hero.


8 posted on 05/18/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by eak3
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To: Fido969

Well, that’s interesting — but unfortunately it’s completely and absolutely irrelevant to the criminal case that’s been filed.


9 posted on 05/18/2012 9:34:52 AM PDT by USNA74
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To: Vigilanteman
It is perfectly natural for a guy from the 'hood to break his nose and pound a member of a lesser race's head against the pavement if he feels offended.

Why sure it is. Sharpton said so - that makes it right. What is this lesser race. I think you got them backwards.

10 posted on 05/18/2012 9:35:52 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Fido969

This is the same as when the Democratic Party spin machine folks gather ‘round the table and decide to use a certain “catch phrase of the week”. It doesn’t matter if it is TV, on-line or print media, the same phrase will be parroted a la Goebbels’ Big Lie (”The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.”)


11 posted on 05/18/2012 9:38:10 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Fido969

Looks like the end to “Neighborhood Watch”. Not on my turf!


12 posted on 05/18/2012 9:40:28 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: USNA74

The headline on NYC’s top all news station this morning was the rehashed notion that one of the police officers present wanted to charge Zimmerman on the night of the incident. That’s great, but officers don’t make that decision, the prosecutor does. Nice try. All of this the morning after the release of the Zimmerman photos and Martin’s toxicology report. Its the old “AP rip and read” at most new outlets. There is very little journalism going on anywhere, nowadays.


13 posted on 05/18/2012 9:41:59 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: A Navy Vet

So now we’re supposed to shift how we look at this.

Instead of talking about whether it was a self-defense shooting, or talking about what exactly happened in that confrontation, we’re supposed to talk about how nothing would have happened, if Zimmerman had stayed in his car.

This sounds like liberal sleight of hand. They are changing the subject, rather than talking about what really happened that night!

Instead of talking about the actual incident, we’re supposed to say Zimmerman instigated whatever did happen, by getting out of the car.

Amazing liberal reasoning.................


14 posted on 05/18/2012 9:43:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Fido969
"The police concluded that none of this would have happened if George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car," said attorney Ben Crump. "If George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car, they say it was completely avoidable. That is the headline."

In other words, Trayvon Martin had every right to slink through the shadows on a rainy night as a visiting guest in that neighborhood while resident George Zimmerman had no legitimate reason to leave his own property except from the confines of his enclosed vehicle. The fact that he even noticed Trayvon at all proves that Zimmerman is a murderous racist.

Therefore, every victim of crime who leaves the comfort of their private dwelling has logically contributed to their own victimization.

If this is what they rationalize, it's absurd.

Brought to you by the same liberals who insist that a gorgeous woman walking alone at night -- naked, even -- through a high crime area should never be sexually assaulted, nor even harassed with sexist comments.

15 posted on 05/18/2012 9:44:32 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Fido969

Oh crap! I just got out of my car and if some kid beats my head in it’s all my fault!

I have always said the racial laws pursued by leftist blacks will boomerang. Does anyone think blacks who shoot people want to be treated the way the Martin family is demanding Z be treated?

It was hilarious when they complained the police treated Z too politely when he was in custody. These are people who cry crocodile tears for the worst murderers.


16 posted on 05/18/2012 9:45:26 AM PDT by Williams (Nobama)
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To: Fido969

As my dear, departed uncle used to say. “If a bullfrog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his fanny when he jumps.”

That saying has about as much relevance to the case as the one the attorney made.


17 posted on 05/18/2012 9:46:12 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Fido969

That is exactly what was said in the morning news report on the radio station I listened to on the way in to work.


18 posted on 05/18/2012 9:46:20 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Julia!!!!!! Don't Let Him Fool 'ya!!!!)
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To: cumbo78
There is very little journalism going on anywhere, nowadays.

But there have never been so many "journalism" degrees about, either.

19 posted on 05/18/2012 9:46:39 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Fido969
Better yet, if Zimmerman had just stayed in his house with the blinds drawn and never left, ever, this whole situation could have been avoided. Or it could have been avoided by Martin not casing houses.

Or from a different angle, if his father hadn't been to cheap to buy a condom......

20 posted on 05/18/2012 9:47:28 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: Fido969

none of this would have happened if George Zimmerman hadn’t gotten out of his car
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Why does this scumbag think this is even relevant? If he had stayed home that day it wouldn’t have happened either. If Travon’s mom had been on birth control it wouldn’t have happened.


21 posted on 05/18/2012 9:52:41 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: The KG9 Kid
Brought to you by the same liberals who insist that a gorgeous woman walking alone at night -- naked, even -- through a high crime area should never be sexually assaulted, nor even harassed with sexist comments.

?? You lost me

22 posted on 05/18/2012 9:55:45 AM PDT by thepatriot1 (...brought to you courtesy of the Red, White and Blue)
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To: Fido969

Normally, a “murder” victim doesn’t have an attorney. That’s the DA’s job.

Is this guy acting as a dead man’s attorney? In what way? Is he hoping to sue someone?

And he seems to be pretty good at his job, spreading propaganda in the media. Who is paying his bills? Soros? The DNC? Obama?


23 posted on 05/18/2012 9:57:30 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Fido969

Worked for Kitty Genovese.. oh no.. wait..


24 posted on 05/18/2012 10:05:31 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Fido969
Travon Martin's family attorney giving orders to MSM how to spin story

Just trying to keep that gravy train chugging down the track.

25 posted on 05/18/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Fido969

When innocent little Treyvon had lost Zimmerman when running from him he should have went to his daddy’s GF’s house. If he had done that instead of back tracking and attacking Zimmerman he would be alive today. Instead he had to be a NO_LIMIT_NI**A and show how tough he was to get street creds.

Look how far those street creds took him. All the way to hell.


26 posted on 05/18/2012 10:14:05 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Fido969

So guess they are saying that none of us should get out of our car if things look dangerous? Give me a break.


27 posted on 05/18/2012 10:15:54 AM PDT by RC2 (Buy American and support the Wounded Warrior Project whenever possible.)
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To: Fido969

Patient “ Doc, it hurts when I raise my arm”

Doctor “ Don’t raise your arm “


28 posted on 05/18/2012 10:16:22 AM PDT by daku
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To: Fido969
Joelle Moreno, a Florida International University law school professor, said the evidence now released makes it difficult to predict if a "stand your ground" defense will work. She is a member of a state senator's task force examining the law.

Zimmermen was not standing. He was flat on his back and being beaten. One good blow to the back of his head on the concrete could kill him. He was in fear of his life and this was self defense. Also per reports he was walking back to his car when he was attacked. Witnesses to the fight say that Zimmermen was the one yelling for help.

29 posted on 05/18/2012 10:18:23 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Fido969

By the same token, if the rabid little thug larvae hadn’t been out smoking a fattie and casing the neighborhood for a home to rob, this whole thing could have been avoided?

That works for me.


30 posted on 05/18/2012 10:20:09 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: thepatriot1
"The police concluded that none of this would have happened if George Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car," ...

It's called "Blame the victim." Similar to "She wouldn't have been assaulted if she hadn't worn that short skirt."

31 posted on 05/18/2012 10:24:01 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or it could have been avoided by Martin’s parents not raising a punk druggie who beat a guy’s head into the sidewalk. If they’d have done their job, he wouldn’t have been expelled three times already this year and if they’d followed through on his being ground then he wouldn’t have been in that town or have been roaming the streets in the rain.


32 posted on 05/18/2012 10:25:58 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Fido969

Years ago I remember a white person was beaten during a mugging. They interviewed a black woman on the subway afterwards and she basically said it was the white person’s fault because they “spoke back”.

It’s a mentality. But the world they want to create no one wants to live in. They HAVE created it, to some extent, in bad areas in Detroit, Philly, etc.


33 posted on 05/18/2012 10:29:11 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

None of this would have happened if Martin hadn’t gotten kicked out of school in Miami where thuggery is just another way of life.


34 posted on 05/18/2012 10:30:19 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Fido969
One of the funniest things I've seen so far this year is when Treyvon's mother said on the Today show she "thought it was an accident". Crump loaded his trousers good.

...slightly enhanced screen cap....
35 posted on 05/18/2012 10:39:34 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Yup, the mother said she thought it was an accident. I saw that, too. However, by that afternoon I suspect her attorney had set her straight that there was no cash at the end of that statement, and she recanted. Have no respect for her. Can’t help but be sorry about her loss of her son, but filled with distaste about the way she hired a lawyer and is trying to turn that lemon into lemonade with her non stop speaking tours (internationally even), and the 8 months paid leave off government work donated by fellow work mates from their vacation time...that should not be permitted. Hate that govt employees can donate their vacation time to a cause like this, and think that should not be allowed. Who determines the legitimacy of the cause???


36 posted on 05/18/2012 10:50:14 AM PDT by kiltie65 (ui)
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To: moehoward

Bottom line is the parents knew their kid was headed in the wrong direction and have been continuing to cover for him in order to gain monetarily.

The mother’s first story , before it became news, was her son “was sitting on the proch and Zimmerman came up and shot him.”.......and that story has changed numerous times since. The parents cannot be believed....it’s all for the show and the revenues they anticipate....one way or another.


37 posted on 05/18/2012 10:54:59 AM PDT by caww
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To: moehoward

Bottom line is the parents knew their kid was headed in the wrong direction and have been continuing to cover for him in order to gain monetarily.

The mother’s first story , before it became news, was her son “was sitting on the proch and Zimmerman came up and shot him.”.......and that story has changed numerous times since. The parents cannot be believed....it’s all for the show and the revenues they anticipate....one way or another.


38 posted on 05/18/2012 10:55:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: All

I wish we could hit Fast-Forward to see 1) exactly how many millions GZ will be awarded for this fiasco, 2) if Ms. Angela Nifong will do any actual jail time for this criminal malfeasance and 3) when Crump will be disbarred.


39 posted on 05/18/2012 10:59:17 AM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: thepatriot1
Years ago, radical feminists contended that when their efforts to smash mysoginy is finally realized, a woman will be able to walk down a darkened alley at night completely naked and suffer no ill consequences.

They make statements like this as part of the 'Take Back The Night' movement: "... The movement has since grown to encompass all forms of violence against all persons, though violence against women is still the movement's main focus", they state. Presumably, this even applies to people like George Zimmerman, protecting him from being attacked by Trayvon Martin.

Liberal philosophy signed onto this notion foundationally.

Fast forward to the present day, and now liberals are saying you're instigating trouble if you get out of your car at night if you see a suspicious person prowling around your neighborhood.

40 posted on 05/18/2012 11:04:51 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Fido969

So every time I see a black person, I should stay in my vehicle, is that the message here?

Sounds a wee bit racist, don’t ya think!


41 posted on 05/18/2012 11:08:12 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Fido969

42 posted on 05/18/2012 11:33:19 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: PoloSec

You should use the power door locks to snap the locks closed right as they walk within earshot, even.


43 posted on 05/18/2012 11:45:07 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: caww
"... The mother’s first story , before it became news, was her son “was sitting on the proch and Zimmerman came up and shot him.”.......

I'm pretty sure that I have a bookmarked video of one of the hens on The View saying that George Zimmerman ran up to Trayvon and (quoting) "shot him three times in the back of the head".

44 posted on 05/18/2012 11:54:03 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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Bottom line, if either of his parents were supervising him properly he wouldn’t have been wandering the streets after being expelled from school. If my child was expelled from school he would have been grounded. period.


45 posted on 05/18/2012 1:45:24 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: I still care

The lesson is that if one of Holder’s people approaches someone who is not (white, Hispanic, or Asian), the NHP (not-Holder’s-people) person is supposed to tug his forelock, get down on his knees, and beg for mercy. Definitely not talk back or resist.


46 posted on 05/18/2012 1:53:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Fido969
Read the article and time and again they keep saying "...if Zimmerman hadn't gotten out of his car...".

Okay, to be fair, maybe the whole incident wouldn't have happened. HOWEVER, since when does a Neighborhood Watch captain have to stay in his car when seeing a suspect in a hoodie (which is the preferred mode of dress for current criminals to hide their face)?

I will tell everyone right now, if I see someone who doesn't fit into my neighborhood lifestyle (including white trash), I will watch and YES, possibly follow them and call the police!

Don't like it? Too bad. Arrest me for looking out for the good of my family and neighbors and profiling.

Here's some news for you anti-profilers: I have long been a Harley rider and have had long hair many times throughout my life. Before and after my Navy years, while at biker events, I could always tell the difference between decent long-haired bikers and the 1%ers (that's outlaw bikers to you clueless Sharptons and Jacksons). I could spot them a block away!

The "gangsters" had a different walk; different long hair; different way of hanging with their group; a different style of clothing (mostly dirty); a hugely different look in their eyes; and up close, a different sound in their voice. I was ALWAYS proven right once they turned around and everyone could see their colors. I know low-lifes when I see them.

So I say kiss my backside as I continue to profile people. Good for Zimmerman for profiling some new guy in the dark walking in-between different homes that had been recently burglarized. Israel does it every day at their airports and that's why they don't get sky-jacked.

I will continue to profile people, unlike the TSA who pats down children, grannies, and old people in wheelchairs.

47 posted on 05/18/2012 2:48:30 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
This will play into a larger leftie theme: “Do NOT try to defend yourself or protect your property. Cooperate with the criminal, and call the police when you can.”

The lefties will use this to attack the SYGL and the RTBA.

48 posted on 05/18/2012 3:00:11 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969
I don't care. I will continue to profile people. If they have hoodies or baggie low-riding pants or gold teeth or tatts on their necks or biker colors, I will profile them as a possible threat. I make no apologies. Stereotypes are often built on facts.

In case you haven't seen my other posts, I grew up on the streets of Los Angeles from the tender age of 16. I had my juvenile problems, but never got involved with the gangsters of the day. However, I can spot them and their wannabes a mile away. I even went undercover for NIS (now NCIS) while Shore Patrol in Rota, Spain to bust a heroin ring in Gibraltar.

They asked for volunteers who had "street experience". I volunteered and accomplished one of the best things I've ever done...to curtail hard drugs going to our military.

I'm not proud of my pre-Navy days, but once I joined, I learned quickly what my parents didn't teach me about honor and integrity. To this day, I can spot a trouble-maker.

49 posted on 05/18/2012 9:36:33 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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