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The Intriguing Problem Of The Younger Dryas—What Does It Mean And What Caused It?
watts Up With That? ^ | June 19, 2012 | Guest post by Don J. Easterbrook

Posted on 06/21/2012 10:11:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Marine_Uncle

Makes our current warming/cooling cycles seem puny.


21 posted on 06/21/2012 1:26:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Be sure and go to link at #19 and scan down to post #2 where Sunkenciv puts up an extraordinary series of links for more reading....amazing !!


22 posted on 06/21/2012 1:29:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Let's start with this one:

Plasma, Solar Outbursts, and the End of the Last Ice Age

***********************************************EXCERPT************************************

The Official Website thereof ^ | prior to July 15, 2011 | Dr. Robert M. Schoch

Posted on Fri 15 Jul 2011 10:15:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

15,000 to 11,000 years ago Earth experienced a series of climatic fluctuations... there was a short cold spell, known as the Younger Dryas, before the final warming and... end of the last ice age. Based on Greenland ice core data, the Younger Dryas began... 10,900 B.C., and its ending... circa 9700 B.C. and may have occurred within an incredible three years... I once hypothesized that comets were responsible. A comet hitting the land or a shallow ocean, or exploding above the land's surface, scattering dust and debris into the atmosphere, would cause global cooling... This pattern fits well with the cooling at 10,900 B.C. and there is evidence of a cometary explosion over North America at this time... comets hitting deep oceans were responsible. A comet might break the thin oceanic crust, releasing heat from the hot magma beneath. Vaporized and displaced water would rain down on Earth, and tsunamis would wash across coastal areas, warming the planet... [But] Plasma hitting the surface of Earth could heat and fuse rock, incinerate flammable materials, melt ice caps, vaporize shallow bodies of water creating an extended deluge of rain, and send the climate into a warming spell. The release of pressure that follows the melting of thousands-of-meters-thick ice sheets can induce earthquakes and even cause hot rock under pressure to melt and erupt to the surface as volcanoes... The plasma event of 9700 B.C. eradicated advanced civilizations and high cultures of the time, and... could be the basis for the nearly universal myth of a Golden Age, a time when beings on Earth had mental abilities far surpassing those of later times. The 9700 B.C. event may be the original basis for the Atlantis legends; the timeframe fits well with Plato's account.

(Excerpt) Read more at robertschoch.com ...

23 posted on 06/21/2012 1:33:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very nice, comprehensive thread on the glitch coming out of the Wisconsin Ice Age. Thanks!


24 posted on 06/21/2012 1:57:04 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Marine_Uncle

I thought the hypothesis from the comment ( See # 10 on this thread ) made sense.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 2:03:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Graewoulf
Just posted this:

Younger Dryas -The Rest of the Story!

26 posted on 06/21/2012 2:28:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The end of the ice age was caused by lizard aliens! They successfully warmed the earth with their advanced technology, augmented by methane from farts.

They could not take advantage of their success however because Obama traveled back in time and drove them off.

27 posted on 06/21/2012 3:23:36 PM PDT by WMarshal (Bitter Clinger)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm going to bookmark this thread as well as the one sited by SunkCiv. For over an hour I struggled to get a air conditioner unit into my bedroom window. Last year and tonight can only be described as a real struggle. The back portion of my home has been going out of whack slowly for years. Windows are out of square, the cute extended fins I built and installed on the manufactures side panels that used to allow me to screw into the window frames no longer work due to miss-alignment problems. I almost had the unit fall out the window more then once, while the super hot stagnant air keeped flowing into the room as I worked. In short, I was totally soaked by sweat. Finally I am cooling down a bit in the basement. No joy. Still over 90 outside at approx. 9:30PM EST.
So I would be a bit dishonest If I just made some terse comments. I'm not up to delving into all the stuff you posted this time around. But I will view it at a latter time. Sure looks like a worth while read in full however.
Thanks E for your efforts to help people stay informed.
28 posted on 06/21/2012 6:51:59 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
I enjoy diggining into this stuff....then I punish those on my ping lists saying.....hey??.... ;look at this..

Man , ...there is just so much good stuff out there on these great internet sites.

29 posted on 06/22/2012 8:30:20 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


30 posted on 06/24/2012 7:52:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks Ernest! I blush!


31 posted on 06/24/2012 7:52:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Ernest! I blush!

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


32 posted on 06/24/2012 7:52:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: WMarshal

It was all those SUV’s back then.


33 posted on 06/24/2012 8:48:19 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
BP is used because anything smacking of Christian derived notation must be eradicated. BCE and CE were tried but they turn out to not be so suitable because people keep reading them as "Before Christian Era" and "Christian Era" and that is just oh, so offensive and insensitive to Moslems and atheists.

I assume that PH- Post Hegira would be the norm by now but Moslems are not all that clear just when H was and there are several date systems stemming from it. Choosing one would upset adherents of the others.

34 posted on 06/24/2012 8:49:43 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: JRandomFreeper
What is wrong with using standard Gregorian dates, or Hebrew years, or something that is NOT a relative measurement. /rant off

How about 14,000 Winters ago, or many moons have passed since....

35 posted on 06/24/2012 9:02:32 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Ineptocracy; the Obama way.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Marine_Uncle; All

An excellent run down of the complex climate changes after the end of the recent great Ice Age. Personally, I am inclined to think the several of the major ice ages were caused by major terrestrial events. The Long Valley and Yellowstone megavolcanic events over 700,000 and 600,000 year ago come to mind. On the other hand I would not be surprised if others were begun by major boloid events. I think Firestone et al give an excellent easy to read account of events that may have caused the Younger Dryas. As one comment points out there could have been several such events relatively close in time.

The great Chesapeake Meteor event around 34 million years ago was one of several in that period. A ten mile diameter crater was found of that age off Toms River, NJ. Also Popogai (sp?), a 60 mile diameter crater in Russia has that age. On the other hand while the most recent ice age began about 125,000 ya, around 74,000 ya the megavolcano Toba left a crater 18 by 65 miles and the charts show a major downturn in temperature for that period.

In Egyptian history there is a period of perhaps 200 years prior to 2,000 BC known as the First Intermediate Period, documented in the Ipuwer papyrus housed in the Leyden (sp?) Museum. Checking on craters, I found that there were a number of significantly large boloid craters (from 5 to 14 miles in diameter) in Argentina with the right age for that period. SC has reported on the 2 mile diameter crater found in the drained Iraq Marshes also about 2,000 BC.

Detail on the eruption of Laacher See Volcano in Germany, 12,900 ya is well described in Hans-Ulrich Schmincke’s book Volcanism (2004). This Plinian eruption was slightly larger than Pinatubo. In other words there are potential a number of potential interactive forces at work influencing the Younger Dryas.

While, I think that a lot more needs to be known and worked out scientifically about anthropogenic climate influence, I think the basic thing we have to realize is that there are a number of possible potential influence on climate. Since highly educated scientists tend to be experts on volcanoes, cosmic events, climate, archaeology, or ancient history, etc, we have lacked a fully functioning interdisciplinary approach to answering such complex questions. One of the things I love about both Catastrophism and GGG is that these sites bring together a number of gifted and curious amateur science sleuths.


36 posted on 06/24/2012 10:38:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Mike Darancette
I could stand 2 years after Nero.

But that's me.

I want a fixed date from SOMEWHERE. ANYWHERE works... Jan 1st, 1970 is special for me. 1340607344

/johnny

37 posted on 06/24/2012 11:55:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gleeaikin; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Glee. For the most part I would agree with your set of statements in your post. Science across the many disciplines labeled as such, do have a obligation to seek all avenues in what so often is labeled discovery and then, not by force of opinion of some, but by careful "continued" investigation and study to draw logical conclusions.
In that framework. The world of science has failed by political and institutional pressures, salary, and job positions, often failed in their quest for honest scientific study.
I'll leave it go at that.
38 posted on 06/25/2012 12:08:48 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Who are you? You think you're Tyson?

Meh... Demand a fixed time constant. It's for the wimmen.

/johnny

39 posted on 06/25/2012 12:17:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gleeaikin

Thanks glee’.


40 posted on 06/25/2012 3:31:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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