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1 posted on 07/13/2012 12:55:25 PM PDT by PA BOOKENDS
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I have to say, I’m disappointed and disgusted that there are still freepers who hold JoPa up as someone not responsible for the evil he perpetrated with their response to the Sandusky / Penn State scandal. Full disclosure: I was born and raised in Pennsylvania. I graduated from PITT in 1983 and my sister (twin) graduated the same year from PSU. I attended numerous football games at PSU from 1979-1984. My many college friends and acquaintances were about split 50-50 between PITT and PSU and enjoyed the athletic rivalry.

For the class of ‘84, the JoPa phenomenon was going full force and many of us enjoyed college football and had fun with the cheers and chants including”JoPa” at these games. Nevertheless, living in Pennsylvania, one could hardly be oblivious to the idol worship of Paterno and the football team. We were happy to see a successful “hometown college team” but actually discussed our reservations about the power Joe Paterno wielded at the school even outside of football program.

And this is what brings me to this response. Some of you seem to be blinded to the very real evidence that Joe Paterno held his “legacy” and power as more important than the destruction of young lives. You apparently have a serious problem with the truth and you hold so much animus toward anyone who would dare question your perception and idolization of Paterno BEFORE ANY OF THIS EVER CAME OUT, that the very second it hit the fan you couldn't’t wait to jump on the UP-with-Joe bandwagon, Joe did so much good, Joe had honor and class.....

Some of you exhibit so much obtuseness at Joe’s real character that you come very close to demonstrating a sickening willingness to write off the tragic destruction of young lives in defense of JoPa and Penn State and declaring your complete lack of understanding of the true meaning of honor and class. Why do you continue to believe that evil should be ignored so that you can pretend that his PR is more real than his lack of morals, character and integrity as demonstrated by his close association with and support of evil for decades?

Here PA Bookends I fixed the first half of you ridiculous post with my perspective. I couldn't stomach the rest.

60 posted on 07/13/2012 1:53:20 PM PDT by mrsloungitude ( USMC Mom)
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> And this is what brings me to this vanity. So many of you seem to resent that very notion. You apparently held so much animus toward Paterno BEFORE ANY OF THIS EVER CAME OUT, that the very second it hit the fan you couldn’t wait to jump on the down-with-Joe bandwagon.

Of all the ridiculous comments... it’s NOT about JOE. It’s ABOUT THE CHILDREN that were RAPED and the people who KNEW and not only DID NOTHING, but ACTIVELY PREVENTED people from STOPPING IT.

Go ahead, deny the Freeh report. Side with child rapers and their enablers. Claim that it’s all about old football rivalries. God, you have got to be kidding me.


61 posted on 07/13/2012 1:59:58 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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And to those of you who are so cock-sure of how you would react in any given situation, it is with trepidation that I say: I hope you get the chance to find out.

If I was working late at the office and I saw a child being raped by a co-worker there would be police there in 5 minutes. I would also try to free the child from the situation. As for the coworker, a chair over the head.

67 posted on 07/13/2012 2:08:18 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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He covered up for a pedophile, that erases everything he did that might be construed as 'good' and puts hls life on the evil side of the ledger.

You Penn St. graduates have learned some warped morals.

69 posted on 07/13/2012 2:08:50 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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And to those of you who are so cock-sure of how you would react in any given situation, it is with trepidation that I say: I hope you get the chance to find out.

I'm assuming here you're not hoping more young boys get molested so we can find out, so I'll approach it differently.

Are you saying that if you had been aware of what was going on, that you wouldn't have tried to do something about it?

74 posted on 07/13/2012 2:20:58 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Lived in PA most of my life.
Like college football.
Have NEVER held any coach above the law or above the need to be a decent human being.
Anyone that does not believe that the homosexual pedophile Sandusky’s action were widely known in the Penn State program is delusional.
I have a real dislike for perverts that abuse children and those that enable them.


78 posted on 07/13/2012 2:27:39 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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Chill out....Sandusky is the monster here, not Paterno. Paterno is apparently guilty of an indefensibly bad, tragic, perhaps criminal, decision.

This is the possibly the biggest scandal in the history of sports.

79 posted on 07/13/2012 2:28:28 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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And to those of you who are so cock-sure of how you would react in any given situation, it is with trepidation that I say: I hope you get the chance to find out.

Based on your treatise and this quote, I wonder if your moral compass isn't quite pointed North....

83 posted on 07/13/2012 2:32:24 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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I am a school nurse in TX and in TX and I believe in most states it is a state law for those who are working in an enviorment with children to report abuse.....personally, I don’t need a law to tell me that, I would do that on my own


86 posted on 07/13/2012 3:07:36 PM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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How we treat those smaller, weaker, younger, much older than ourselves (including animals)reveals exactly who we are.
88 posted on 07/13/2012 3:41:52 PM PDT by Nepeta
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90 posted on 07/13/2012 3:52:39 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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I barely knew who Joe Paterno was before this scandal. But even before Paterno's personal involvement became clear I noticed something about his fans. They practically worshipped him. And even though he may have done some good things, the degree of admiration seemed out of all proportion. I noticed people making him out to be one of the greatest human beings who ever lived. He was a football coach and mainly influenced the world of football and Penn State University. That's it. This is like one of those situations where a charismatic leader just hypnotizes people and when his faults start becoming clear they can't accept it.

Sometimes people do good things and terrible things.

92 posted on 07/13/2012 4:04:38 PM PDT by wideminded
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I can’t imagine what it was like living with this flase reputation of honor like Paterno, while all the time greasing the skids to a homosexual boy rapist to rape boys. How dishonorable can a coach of young men be than to abet a boy rapist to carry on his evil of destroying boys?

It is similar to Cardnal Law playing the part of representing Christ while playing the part of madam by giving access to all those homo pedophiles raping little boys in church.

You can not get any more low down and sleazy and evil than this. Some people don’t understand the depth of suffering and destruction that comes to a boy who has been raped by a manipulative homo. This ignorace does not excuse the crime.


96 posted on 07/13/2012 5:26:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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PA BOOKENDS

This account has been banned or suspended.


Okay


97 posted on 07/13/2012 6:43:09 PM PDT by Gamecock (The Gospel is only good news when we understand the bad news. —R.C. Sproul)
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My wife and I happened to have dinner tonight with another couple; he was a Penn State grad (played varsity baseball for them) and was deeply ashamed of his school and JoPa. If he wasn't I probably would have left the table. Consider that I am leaving the table that you're seated at.

Your reality testing is dreadful...consider if your son was butt-raped by that pervert and Joe covered up for him for 14 years. Does that bring it home?

100 posted on 07/13/2012 6:59:46 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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By the way, I was born near Pittsburgh and grew up a mild PSU fan.


105 posted on 07/13/2012 7:52:26 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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So long, PA BOOKENDS (Posting History)
Hat Tip to Responsibility2nd, re_nortex, Arrowhead1952, and Old Sarge
Paterno apologist rides away quietly sizzling and crackling and ends up tasty, salty, and cheesy



What if it had been your son?



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107 posted on 07/13/2012 8:24:47 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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Joe Paterno KNEW what was going on and yet did NOTHING.
How can you or anyone else excuse that?
He KNEW.


123 posted on 07/14/2012 12:44:52 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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So, with a flash and a boom one of the chief players in the long ago thread on sexual morality and adults not having sex with children rides the lightning. And lo and behold it is over the same issue (Albeit with a male perp).

Vindication, Marie.

Have some Kudos.


124 posted on 07/14/2012 1:01:31 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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