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Something I posted on Facebook. For what it's worth....
1 posted on 08/13/2012 7:53:23 PM PDT by goodn'mad
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To: goodn'mad

I see no problem voting for a Jewish candidate. There are other religions that I could vote for. But there are some that under no circumstances would I even consider voting for them.

It that as clear as mud?

In my opinion it boils down to whether he was of good moral and personal character (that precludes some faiths) and whether he would uphold the Constitution as required for the oath of office.

An atheist? NO

A Muslim? I don’t know a circumstance where I would.

A Scientologist? Nope

Your’s is a loaded question.


2 posted on 08/13/2012 8:05:28 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: goodn'mad

Well, do what your heart tells you.

Me, I’m not Christian, and I don’t vote for a candidate for what church he claims to be part of. I judge my candidate by the cut of his jib, not his religion. I mean heck, Jesse Jerkson and Al “Not So” Sharpton claim to be reverends, and Our Dear Leader apparently sat in a “Christian” church for a long time, one I think is very nutty. I personally doubt if they have anything like the humility of Jesus, they all seem like charlatans to me.

No insult meant, just my $.02 for your perusal.


3 posted on 08/13/2012 8:07:15 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: goodn'mad

One bit of wise counsel I read is that, when given a choice between a pro-life candidate, and a pro-abortion one (regardless whether either CLAIMS to be a Christian), the only ethical choice is to vote for the pro-life one.

If both are pro-abortion (pro-choice) then it becomes a judgement call.

As to whether they have to be Christians...the Bible never tells us our leaders must be Christian.

Obama claims to be a Christian, and Romney a Mormon...yet Romney says now (he changed his mind...) he is pro-life. To vote for Obama just because he claims to be a Christian would be silly—and I believe un-ethical.

Famously the Protestant Reformer Martin Luther (d. 1546) said, at a time Germany was threatened by Muslim Turkey, “Better a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.”


4 posted on 08/13/2012 8:11:05 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (reality is analog, not digital...)
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To: goodn'mad; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican
2002 U.S. Senate race in Minnesota:

JEWISH CANDIDATE - CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN (pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, lower taxes, limited government, anti-illegal alien, etc.)

CHRISTIAN CANDIDATE - SOCIALIST DEMOCRAT (pro-abortion, gun grabber, gay friendly, raise taxes, massively expand government, reward illegals, etc.)

Are there seriously some freepers who would have trouble deciding which of those candidates to vote for?

(P.S. To the freepers who will "only elect Christians" -- you realize Jesus Christ himself was a lifelong Jew, right? Guess he wouldn't get your vote)

5 posted on 08/13/2012 8:12:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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That’s a good question. I believe a man’s (or woman’s) spirituality is their own business. I don’t trust Muslims (like Ubama, for example) and I couldn’t vote for a scientologist, festivusuvian, atheist, or follower of a false prophet. I would probably stick to voting for true Christians of all kinds, and Jews.


6 posted on 08/13/2012 8:14:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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You’re going to have a hard time with this. Calvinists vs. Lutherans vs. Baptists vs. Pentecostals and everything else under the sun. And don’t forget the Catholics, to some they are the harlot church of the Book of Revelation.

I have argued theology for years. There are evil people in every religion, but the only religion that I know is truly evil is islam.

Most others are misguided, some grew up with the teaching and won’t leave, but who has the truth?

I like Paul Ryan, he brings to the table alot of things that I truly believe in. Anti-abortion, fiscally responsible, articulate and intelligent. I don’t hold it against him because he is Catholic. I think that alot of things that Catholics believe are incorrect. But some of my best friends are Catholic.

Romney is a morman. Really don’t know how any one could believe in this nonsense, I believe it is a cult. Yet some of the nicest, respectful and compassionate people I know are Mormans, I do not consider them to be Christian, yet for the most part, those that I know are decent people.

If you get into the debates, anyone who disagrees with each other become heretics and outside Christianity according to whatever the personal bent is.

when it comes to religion, and politics, I look for those that are anti-abortion, family oriented and honest, not liars like those in the rat party, that couldn’t tell the truth if it tap danced across their nose.

Religion gives us the moral compass on how to vote and what we are to support morally.

To opt out and let the greater evil take charge is cowardice. That was shown in WWII with Hitler.

Blessings, bobo


8 posted on 08/13/2012 8:27:07 PM PDT by bobo1
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You don’t have to, but if you are suicidal or mentally challenged, you could search out radical Muslims or progressive Democrats to vote for.


9 posted on 08/13/2012 8:29:14 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: goodn'mad

I am a Christian but would never adhere to that logic. You can be guided by Christian principles on selecting who you vote for. Quite honestly though just being a Christian doesn’t make you a good candidate. There have been a few Christian candidates that I would never support.

As a Christian, I would say you should pray for guidance on who you should vote for.

My two cents worth.


10 posted on 08/13/2012 8:30:05 PM PDT by shoedog
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I hate the choices we have...Would I vote for a Caspar Milquetoast NE liberal Mormon, or would I fall on my sword as a Christian and not vote and and allow an apocalypticly evil Marxist to destroy my country. I can’t look my children in the eye, knowing they would be enslaved by the State if I do nothing. I would have to vote for Romney/Ryan if push came to shove. Thankfully, I live in a very red Mormon state which Romney will easily carry. I have a friend in VA who is having the same dilemma, and I urged him to vote, because it’s close and the stakes are so high. I understand if his conscience won’t allow him to do that.


11 posted on 08/13/2012 8:31:33 PM PDT by 4mer Liberal
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What a loaded question! I’ve been beat up on Facebook by other FReepers for my opinion on this issue. And my statements, questions, and observations haven’t come close to being as pointed as yours.


13 posted on 08/13/2012 8:34:06 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: goodn'mad

Martin Luther himself commented on this question. He said better to be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian. Said at a time when many of Luther’s followers lived under Ottoman rule in parts of today’s Hungary and Romania.


14 posted on 08/13/2012 8:35:10 PM PDT by gusty
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To: goodn'mad

Sounds like an 18 year old.


16 posted on 08/13/2012 8:37:07 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: goodn'mad

Vote for the best candidate that shares your values.

It some cases there may not be much difference between the candidates.


21 posted on 08/13/2012 8:42:13 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Sounds as though you should try to bring that good Christian Jimmy Carter back as president. That way you could teach Sunday school with him on Sunday and watch him destroy our Republic the rest of the week.

Come on folks, let’s get serious. Let’s get over all the factionalism and fragmentation that is threatening to contribute to our destruction.

As Franklin said before the signing of the Declaration of Independence “We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”


23 posted on 08/13/2012 8:48:46 PM PDT by House Atreides
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We have but two viable choices to be president next year:

One is a Mormon.

The other is a Communist.

Choose wisely.


31 posted on 08/13/2012 9:20:19 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: goodn'mad

I don’t think you should base your vote on someone’s religion, you are not voting for a religious leader. Also, there is no religious test to hold elected office in this country.

So I would say no, certainly not as the only reason, maybe as a tie-breaker. But, there are so many Christians in America that odds are good that most pols you encounter will be, at least nominally, Christians.


32 posted on 08/14/2012 1:37:59 AM PDT by jocon307
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Ain’t a factor for me goodn’mad. This ain’t a Papal election.

As for “godless”. The most pious democrap commie like Jimmy FARTER is “godless” as far as I’m concerned. I’d be happy to vote for an atheist conservative over a crapheel lib who goes to church 7 days a week.

I’d also be happy to vote for a conservative who cheats on his wife with women AND men over a democrat slime who’s been happily and faithfully married for 40 years.


33 posted on 08/14/2012 2:23:40 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: goodn'mad

Separation of church and state.
When the church ran things, we had the dark ages and the Inquisition.
No thanks. No Torquemada in the White House.

Jesus Christ was a Jewish Rabbi.
So you should never vote for him I suppose.

A good government is independent of religion. Government’s job is to create a legal framework to protect individual rights, a justice system and a prosperous economy - and if necessary, national defense.

Milton Friedman was a Jew and his sage advice helped Pinochet build a great economy in Chile.

John James Cowperthwaite was a Jew and he presided over Athiest Chinese to build one of the most prosperous economies on earth - in a place with no natural resources nor inherent wealth - Hong Kong.

Lee Kuan Yew built Singapore into a modern first world nation in just 20 years - from the ruins of WWII. He did not have Christians, but his people were barely little better than slaves - coolie laborers from the plantations of Malaysia. Chinese and Indians brought over by the British to save away in the hot Asian sun - with these people he built a nation that is astoundingly prosperous, safe and beautiful. Would you prefer a Christian like Jimmy Carter?

Keynes was a Christian anti-semite and developed the economic theories that confound our societies until this very day.

Of course, never vote for a Muslim.
Anybody who follows a 7th century cult formed by a violent, vicious, epileptic, pedophile, sexual deviant, brigand and murderer cannot be trusted.


34 posted on 08/14/2012 2:35:15 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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Posts like this are no different than the muslim crazies.

WTF is wrong w some people?

You vote for the best person regardless of race, religion, etc.


43 posted on 08/14/2012 5:26:30 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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We elect a chief executive of the United States every four years, not the Pope.


44 posted on 08/14/2012 5:35:57 AM PDT by billhilly
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