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Mystery Surrounding 1.2 Billion Rounds Of Ammo Solved
Market Daily News ^ | Aug 23, 2012

Posted on 08/23/2012 9:45:14 PM PDT by djf

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To: djf

Whatever Lex Luthor.

20,000 Russians? They will be swamped more tan 100 million Americans.

No, Russians aren’t suicidial jihadists.


61 posted on 08/23/2012 11:41:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: djf
I agree that the posted scenario is (to put it politely) "far-fetched," but it makes for an interesting discussion point. It also ties into a point I made some time ago on a libertarian Website: why "Socialism for Peace" is a fantasy.

Socialism's linchpin is centralizing the economy under political direction; its need for a central plan implies that the political system would be centralized too. The more centralized the State, the fewer centres of power there are. The fewer centres of power, the fewer centres a foreign conqueror needs to hit in order to take over the country.

Thus, ceteris paribus, the more socialistic a State, the more vulnerable it is to foreign conquest.

Consquently, socialists (whose aim is to stay in charge) will quickly figure out that they'd better make sure the ceteris is no longer paribus. To compensate for socialism's military vulnerability, they have to boost the military. Instead of swords being beaten into plowshares, plowshares get beaten into swords. That's one of the reasons why socialist states end up being First-World militaries on top of Third-World economies.

Interestingly, there's a side consequence: under socialism, a career in the military becomes a cushy slot. Military minds will figure the same vulnerability out quickly, which gives them real leverage over the commissars. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the political-officer slots in the military were the Communist Party's equivalent of the Russian Front.

62 posted on 08/23/2012 11:44:31 PM PDT by danielmryan
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To: danielmryan

It’s interesting also that socialism depends on the people being dependent.

If the people are independent go-getter do-it-yourself types, then the theory of socialism fails, and alot of politicians (who have based their careers on “DOING SOMETHING”) lose their jobs.

We need unemployment, we need Obamacare, we need food stamps, it generates hundreds of thousands of paper-pushing jobs...
/sarcasm


63 posted on 08/23/2012 11:51:08 PM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: John S Mosby
It would take a whole lot more than 20K russian commandos to take this country.

IIRC, the article was REMOVING whatever real AMERICANS there are left in government positions from office. Very different than trying to take over the whole country at one time.

They would have their asses handed to them.

By who? If they succeeded in taking out the American Leaders in government, who would call the National Guard? Who would organize the attack ?

Who would you attack? Anyone who 'looked' like a Russian ? I don't think they will be wearing uniforms.

Come to think of it, maybe they WILL wear uniforms, and maybe SOME are already here....

Media buzz as US confirms Russian troops to train on American soil

64 posted on 08/23/2012 11:57:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: Lazamataz; rdcbn; All
Yours is the most cogent reason, yet offered, for the purchases. While I hope I’m not being hopelessly optimistic, I feel your explanation is the most rational.

I'm pretty sure the Communists have taken over LAZ. That is the most reasonable, most cogent, and most polite response on this thread.

65 posted on 08/24/2012 12:03:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: UCANSEE2

Some say half of American households get some form of government assistance.

If that assistance stops, how many of those households would listen to whoever sounded like they were in charge, would do whatever conditions it took to get that assistance back?

No matter how “un-American” the conditions were?

Scary to think about, eh?


66 posted on 08/24/2012 12:04:38 AM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: Sequoyah101; djf
Though, sadly, nothing these yellow-bellied communist SOBs in this administration did would surprise me.

What if I told you they were going to make the announcement that the US is now a part of the new SOCIALIST WESTERN HEMISPHERE on Dec. 21, 2012 ?

67 posted on 08/24/2012 12:06:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: djf

Not that I condone killing the wives and children, but I do foresee one critical flaw in the invaders plan. While in most countries, killing the top government officials would be like cutting the head off a snake. However, in America, killing the top government officials would be like taking a shackle off of a tiger. Big.Fn.Mistake.


68 posted on 08/24/2012 12:09:16 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: peyton randolph
This is like the remake of “Red Dawn” that portrays North Korea as the enemy invading the U.S. Cannot suspend common sense to even remotely believe the Russians are planning something like this when there is no incentive for them to do so and every reason to believe that the enemy is internal.

The movie was all wrong. The way to do it is to send in smaller contingents of troops to let them learn the lay of the land, and get the public used to seeing them.

See... it's not that they need troops to 'takeover' the US. That has been done. It's that they need troops to help control once the takeover is officially announced. Bring em in a little at a time, and there is little resistance.

69 posted on 08/24/2012 12:10:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: Jim from C-Town
The Russians STILL have trouble providing enough toilet paper for all it's own population more than twenty years after the fall of their Communist Government.

That will be the next thing the 'minorities' demand... free toilet paper.

70 posted on 08/24/2012 12:18:05 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: max americana; peyton randolph
Well, if you believe the Jane’s report that the Russkie army could barely feed themselves.

Well... that seems a good reason for them to want to come to the US.

71 posted on 08/24/2012 12:22:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: djf

Why would Russia unite America by a forceful attack, when America is crumbling from within?


72 posted on 08/24/2012 12:22:29 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: djf
If that assistance stops, how many of those households would listen to whoever sounded like they were in charge, would do whatever conditions it took to get that assistance back? No matter how “un-American” the conditions were?

DEMORALIZATION
DESTABILIZATION
CHAOS
NORMALCY

What you mentioned comes in the NORMALCY stage. It's how the populace will end up WILLINGLY taking the new SOCIALIST WORLD ORDER into their bosom.

Scary to think about, eh?

Nah, I think about it all the time as I watch it being played out right in front of me. It's so obvious that it is ridiculous. Inch by inch, step by step.

73 posted on 08/24/2012 12:41:37 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: douginthearmy
However, in America, killing the top government officials would be like taking a shackle off of a tiger.

I.E. it would be massive chaos. Exactly what they have planned. Besides, they are only going to eliminate the American government officials. The commie plants won't be disturbed. That means only about 20% of the officials have to be killed.

The 'chaos' will be completely managed, and turned into massive demand for CIVIL ORDER and restoration of SERVICES.

CIVIL ORDER will be installed, at a price. We will all be equal. Just like the Russians. Slaves to their government.

74 posted on 08/24/2012 12:52:11 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: peyton randolph


75 posted on 08/24/2012 1:04:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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To: TigersEye

ha ha ha........that thought (may) have crossed my mind.......

Very funny


76 posted on 08/24/2012 1:29:03 AM PDT by onona (Thank you fellow Freepers, just because I can.)
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To: rdcbn; Lazamataz

unfortunately... law enforcement doesn’t use hollow point ammunition, afaik


77 posted on 08/24/2012 1:37:35 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: TigersEye

LOL!

Careful, FRiend. It’ll make ‘em cautious to receive less than token resistance.


78 posted on 08/24/2012 2:12:07 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: sten
unfortunately... law enforcement doesn’t use hollow point ammunition, afaik

Not correct.

US military does not use hollow point ammunition.

Civilian police and citizens use it almost exclusively.

79 posted on 08/24/2012 2:43:53 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: smoothsailing

heh! I remember seeing that as a first run movie as a kid.


80 posted on 08/24/2012 2:51:24 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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