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My thoughts on the new "Paterno" book by Joe Posnanski (25 year photographer of the football team)
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Posted on 08/25/2012 3:54:09 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: FlJoePa

... who had WAY more interaction with js than Joe Paterno did.

How can you say that with a straight face? Sandusky was his ASSISTANT COACH.

You’re blinded by your partisan position.

Paterno was scum. He had first hand knowledge that little boys were being sodomized in his locker room — not once but repeatedly — and he covered it up for the sake of FOOTBALL. By rights, he should have spent the last several painful years of his life in jail. At least he died with his precious football legacy utterly destroyed. As it should be.

Here’s a clue, son: football does NOT trump righteousness.


41 posted on 08/25/2012 6:58:26 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: FlJoePa

All I did was make a general statement that I still stand by. And it is not necessarily directed toward JP only.


42 posted on 08/25/2012 6:59:07 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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45 posted on 08/25/2012 7:30:52 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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46 posted on 08/25/2012 7:35:34 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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47 posted on 08/25/2012 7:40:09 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Nervous Tick

You called Joe Paterno - a man who lived an exemplary life “scum”.

That gets you “asshat” in return. I guess I’ll apologize, as I am getting a little too wound up about this. But I wish people would just THINK.

Joe Paterno is “scum?” So he put on some act for 61 years of his life at Penn State? No one said he wasn’t without faults, but to think he would KNOWINGLY COVER UP FOR A PEDOPHILE - is patently absurd.

What effin’ sense does that make? Especially when he told everyone he could above him what he knew. He was praised by the otherwise over-aggressive PA AG for his testimony.

And yet people like you call him scum. He isn’t scum. In fact, he’s the furthest thing from it.


48 posted on 08/25/2012 7:42:11 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Nervous Tick

You make pedophile jokes. How sad.


49 posted on 08/25/2012 7:44:34 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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>> He isn’t scum. In fact, he’s the furthest thing from it.

You’re blind.

One of the reasons I am so disgusted with that son of a bitch is precisely because I used to look up to him.

What he did was utterly horrible, utterly reprehensible, and — perhaps, worse — utterly CYNICAL.

Multiple young men’s lives scarred permanently, perhaps beyond repair, with his full knowledge.

For WHAT PURPOSE?

A f_____g game. That’s what purpose.

He’s puke in a bucket. Never fully apologized, never came completely clean, never attempted in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER to make amends.

Yeah, he was all teary eyed and sorry for a minute. Sorry he got caught! Sorry his damned LEGACY was tarnished. Those kids Sandusky victimized? CHOPPED LIVER to Saint Joe.

God will judge him for all eternity but I’ll judge him here on earth and I don’t give a damn what you Penn State partisan suck-ups think. He’s crap.

Here’s another news flash, sport. Men of good character don’t slip up like that once. Wonder what else we DON’T know about your hero. Wonder what OTHER principles he sacrificed on the alter of Winning At Football.


50 posted on 08/25/2012 7:50:20 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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>> You make pedophile jokes. How sad.

Damned straight! JoePa’s pedophile enabling WAS sad. BEYOND sad.


51 posted on 08/25/2012 7:52:03 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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Seek help


52 posted on 08/25/2012 8:01:36 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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>> Seek help

You’re the one who needs help, pedophile apologist.

Looking at your posting record, you’re All Ped State, All The Time... no other real interests.

That’s just weird.


53 posted on 08/25/2012 8:06:02 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: FlJoePa
I was commenting on my understanding that at least one shower sex incident was reported to JP who passed the information on to someone else and then never followed up or talked about it with Sandusky.

With all the publicity about the scandals in the Catholic Church and Joe being Catholic this was more than a lapse in judgement. It is hard to deal with something like this, especially if he an Sandusky were long time friends. But, life isn't fair and morality isn't something you set aside when it hits close to home. That's just my take. I could be misinformed and I don't mean to offend anyone by calling it as I see and feel it. Unless they agree with the idea of just letting it go.

For the record: I live in Washington State where the statute of limitations on child rape would have let Sandusky off the hook without even and indictment. So had he coached at UW there would be no scandal and no publicity.

54 posted on 08/25/2012 8:12:18 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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What really bugged me about all this with Penn State...was that the same media castigating JoePa for his inaction...were the same ones covering up the pedophilia going on at Syracuse University for many years

There was never a push to remove Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim, even though his long-time assitant Bernie Fine had been molesting boys for years, even bringing them with him on road trips...and Boeheim saw the boys in the hotel rooms with Fine

The reason the media gave Syracuse a pass was that many in the media went to school at Syracuse (it is a big broadcast-media school) .....not only they covered up for their alma-mater....but the older SU alums in the media hated Penn State because of their superiority over SU in athletics


55 posted on 08/25/2012 8:22:08 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (The GOP Media whining over Todd Akin is not legitimate)
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Where do you get the idea that they were "longtime friends" as you just stated? Didn't you read the FRIGGIN' article?

From the article - posted right above (from someone who was around the program for 25 years):

"He never liked Sandusky, that was known, for a very long time, by people anywhere near the program."

I hope you can understand my frustration when you repeat media distortions like this, and also use them to form your opinion. Who told you Joe and js were friends? The media? Any PSU fan/alum/etc. knows this was never the case. Ever. Don't listen to the media. Please.

56 posted on 08/25/2012 8:28:04 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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Oh...and about the Paterno family lawsuit against the NCAA...

The Paterno family (Paterno estate) will win...and win quite easily...contrary to the talking-heads in the media

In the 1990’s case of Tarkanian v NCAA....the US Supreme Court ruled that the NCAA must give “due process” when dealing with individuals (coaches)

There was no “due process” given to Paterno when they stripped his wins from him. Also, he never signed the “consent” with the NCAA to accept any punishment (obvious reasons)

Paterno’s family is probably already quite aware of this...and it would behoove the NCAA to re-instate the wins....or face their findings be overturned by a court. I do not think the NCAA or Louis Freeh want that Freeh Report to be scrutinized in a court of law....it could result in all the punishment against the school be nullified.


57 posted on 08/25/2012 8:32:34 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (The GOP Media whining over Todd Akin is not legitimate)
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OK - they weren’t friends. That makes it even harder to understand why he let it go. Its even harder to comprehend now.


58 posted on 08/25/2012 8:32:59 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: SeminoleCounty

I appreciate your knowledge of the case Nole, and your compassion for the spot we’re in.

This is insane. That people think some of the things they do of Joe Paterno boggles my mind and makes me wonder if I’m in some sort of bizarro world.

As for the ncaa, what we need is for a judge to take one of the cases (partial b.o.t., Paterno family, Letterman, Faculty). That would bring the freeh report into a court of law - and that would be embarrassing for mr. freeh because his report (in a court of law) amounts to nothing.


59 posted on 08/25/2012 8:37:40 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Baynative

Here’s the Freeh Report. Go to pages 66-79 and you will find out what Paterno and the administration did after the report of the Sandusky shower incident.

http://www.thefreehreportonpsu.com/REPORT_FINAL_071212.pdf


60 posted on 08/25/2012 8:54:06 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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