Posted on 09/21/2012 5:54:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Houston area investigators are looking into a stand-your-ground case where after a minor fender-bender, a 22-year-old white male was shot and killed by a 23-year-old black woman. During a morning commute, Crystal Scott and Jonathan Ables were in an accident and pulled into a Shell gasoline station to survey the damage.
According to Scott, Ables exited his truck and ran toward her driver-side door. Scott said he yelled and then hit her door and tried to open it. Fearing for her life, Scott pulled her pistol and shot Ables once through the driver’s window and struck him in the chest. Ables died at the scene.
A Harris County Sheriff’s spokesman, Sgt. Felipe Rivera said “From what we understand it was maybe just a minor accident,” while adding, “The information we’re getting is that it appeared to be a minor accident that turned into road rage.”
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An eyewitness, who appeared on camera but has requested anonymity, said that he did not hear any threat in the seconds before Scott killed Ables. The witness was pumping gas and standing 15 feet away from Ables when a bullet ricocheted past him and struck his car. The bullet left a noticeable impression on the witness’s car.
As for Scott’s version of events, the witness said that if Ables had shouted or banged on the car, he would have heard it. “What drew my attention was the gunshot,” said the witness. “I just want to be sure that I do everything in my power that everything is fair. I care about it being fair,” he said. The Harris County sheriff’s department has not yet responded to Spero News’ request for any security footage of the shooting.
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Okay.............
Under the law as it exists, yes it is. Judge and jury doesn't enter into it. If she acted under the law then there is no reason for indictment or trial. And she acted under the law.
After her first one the threat, if any, was neutralized.
So then why the second one???
The first one may have been SYG --- but the second one is murder.
How many shots in total? One witness said a ricochet flew past him and damaged his car. The same witness said he didn't notice anything going on until that gunshot (not good for her case). So, maybe that shot missed and was the first of three.
Wrong.
If the Texas law is as the Florida law, then she has to appear before a judge in an immunity hearing and explain her actions to him. And if he is not convinced that she acted lawfully then he will send it on to trial.
Any firearm instructor will tell you that a double tap is a time honored method that develops accuracy and ensures your target is down. All that indicates is that she was a trained concealed carry permit holder.
Maybe he didn't drop right away.
If self-defense was justified for the first shot, then it's almost certainly justified for the second. Unless she got out of the car and then finished him off as he lay on the pavement.
sometimes its almost like their "daring" others because they know they got this big gun with them....
seems odd to be shooting someone from inside your car when you could "gun" it and drive away to a police or fire station....
but we'll see...
One of the two may have passed through him and been the one that ricocheted off the car.
The Florida law sets the standard of convincement at "preponderance of the evidence". If the judge finds by the preponderance that the defendant's action was reasonable, then he is supposed to throw the whole thing out, also precluding its possible use as a cause of civil damages.
“Unless she got out of the car and then finished him off as he lay on the pavement.”
That’s certainly what it is looking like to me, since there is only one bullet hole in the car window. If there are two holes in him, then that second bullet obviously didn’t teleport through the window.
George Zimmerman's instructor didn't tell him that. One shot was all that was needed to save his life.
And the law says force necessary to neutralize the threat -- not to "ensure that the target is down". If that was her intent then that is murder.
A Houston Shell station is not Bagdad.
I'll bet GZ's instructor also didn't tell him to get in a wrestling match before opening up.
And the law says force necessary to neutralize the threat -- not to "ensure that the target is down".
In the heat of the moment, there is no difference. If a single tap was justified, then a double tap was also.
There is a question as to whether that car shown on the website with the one hole in the wondow belonged to the shooter or whether it was the one that the bullet struck as it ricochetted around.
Maybe the second shot went through the hole made by the first or only slightly enlarged it. I haven't seen any closeups of the window nor any forensic analyses.
“Maybe the second shot went through the hole made by the first or only slightly enlarged it. I haven’t seen any closeups of the window nor any forensic analyses.”
Yeah, maybe. Maybe she’s Robin Hood in disguise too.
According to this page:
“A sheriff’s investigator photographs Crystal Scott’s vehicle as part of the crime scene investigation.”
It’s her car.
But if you have called 911, and are in a locked car, and in a Shell station, and the person that you just put a bullet into is the same one that was just involved with you in a car accident, and you agreed to pull over and to talk about it, then the second bullet would not have been self defense, but evidence of intent to finish things off.
So she shot him and then got out of the car and shot him again while he was on the ground.
Unbelievable and she wants to call this stand your ground???
Some carjackers also do that trick ~ usually involves someone in another car keeping you from changing lanes too.
Which means there may be another witness around eh!!
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