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Black woman stands her ground, kills white man
Spero News ^ | September 18, 2012 | Martin Barillas

Posted on 09/21/2012 5:54:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: GeronL

Yeah, yeah. At least he wasn’t an old sourpuss who got his jollies from ridiculing the dead who can’t defend themselves.


221 posted on 09/21/2012 3:58:42 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Osage Orange; muawiyah
Maybe you don't know the whole story..and maybe I don't either.

BINGO!

Which is why we should all wait for the details of the investigation.

Incidentally, muawiyah was misquoting me about the "carjacking." Before that statement was made, I had just quoted an article stating that she had purchased her gun and gotten her concealed carry after a previous road rage in which somebody had attacked and damaged her car. Don't know if the article was true, but that's what I told muawiyah.

222 posted on 09/21/2012 3:59:38 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Osage Orange
No, not trying to do anything ~ although there are those here who imagine she shot him once through the window and then got out and finished him off ~ but we don't know anything about that from the stories.

Dude has a rap sheet though, and there's a nice 911 call somewhere.

Is this how idiots flirt in Houston these days?

223 posted on 09/21/2012 4:01:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Scoutmaster
And I had been reading up on the various insurance fraud operations that involve innocent drivers ~ as well as the way numerous car jackings had been conducted in the Mid Atlantic.

I don't edit very much of what I write due to some inadequacies in my visual accuity ~ particularly when I"m reading other stuff.

Just popped the wrong word into the old typing tube ~ but then again we have that story where she describes STOP AND SQUAT behavior on his part ~ and that can be involved in either carjacking or insurance fraud events.

224 posted on 09/21/2012 4:04:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Scoutmaster

Yes, I know...........


225 posted on 09/21/2012 4:08:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: muawiyah
The guy wasn't a rapist, robber, or carjacker! He got busted for pot possession a couple times...and apparently got the last violation ( a car issue ) dismissed.

Idiots are EVERYWHERE! Even where you live.

226 posted on 09/21/2012 4:16:12 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Regarding onlooker testimony, one guy says the only commotion that caught his attention was the gunfire. I don’t know about you guys, but when I am in public or doing something mindless like pumping gas, I tune out all background noise and my mind is on other things. I may not notice someone yelling with the cacophony of other noise in a big city. I would certainly notice gunfire, though.


227 posted on 09/21/2012 4:18:22 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: Scoutmaster

<>Dismissed? You are trying too hard to protect this guy and to convict her.<>

Get over it. I’m only quoting what you posted. It’s right there on the form top left or don’t you read what you post???

<>I only see one hole in her side window in the photo. Maybe she opened her door and shot him again while he was on the ground. In that case, I’m stunned that none of the stories report that. It leads me to believe she didn’t <>

Then you didn’t read this article posted earlier:

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Reported-road-rage-ends-in-fatal-shooting-in-NW-3871363.php#photo-3470029

“Sheriff’s deputies found the man in the Shell parking lot with what appeared to be two gunshot wounds to his upper chest area.”

Explain that —


228 posted on 09/21/2012 4:20:04 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Osage Orange
Someone a couple of posts above says it was recorded as dismissed because he was dead!

Now, about the tats? Got anything on that?

229 posted on 09/21/2012 4:21:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Uncle Chip
And the law says force necessary to neutralize the threat -- not to "ensure that the target is down". If that was her intent then that is murder.

Except that's not what the law says.

230 posted on 09/21/2012 4:21:52 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Scoutmaster

George Zimmerman had several arrests as well.


231 posted on 09/21/2012 4:23:40 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: cherry
seems odd to be shooting someone from inside your car when you could "gun" it and drive away to a police or fire station....

Should Joe Horn have backed off and waited for the police he had already called to arrive rather than shooting two attempted burglars? In the back? Or was he justified in accosting two unarmed men on his neighbors property and shooting them both because he felt threatened? Police thought the later.

232 posted on 09/21/2012 4:27:29 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels
Earlier cite uses the expression 'the deadly force" ~ meaning the dude is dead or really chopped up ~ whatever!

wonder what they'd say about hunting the guy who put you in fear of your life later and slowly poisoned him ~ bet they'd draw a line to that. like if you survive whatever was going on do you get to revisit him with a kidnapping and slow torture? eventually those lines will be crossed and that particular law will find courts requiring something more than the killer's claim.

233 posted on 09/21/2012 4:31:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You’re drinking again....I guess.


234 posted on 09/21/2012 4:40:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: rabidralph

My head is on a swivel always when in public places with people all around.


235 posted on 09/21/2012 4:42:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Get over it. I’m only quoting what you posted. It’s right there on the form top left or don’t you read what you post???

I read before I posted. The difference is that I read the whole thing. The top left is a current summary of all charges; all are currently dismissed ("He's dead, Jim"). If you read down, you'll find the license suspension wasn't dismissed until 9/19/2012, after his death. Jonathan was driving on a suspended license, it appears.

“Sheriff’s deputies found the man in the Shell parking lot with what appeared to be two gunshot wounds to his upper chest area.”

Explain that

I'll take a stab.

She shot him twice.

That's what I acknowledged above. I'm still trying to figure out the second shot. It looks like only one hole in the window; however, if she opened the door and shot him a second time, when he was on the ground or otherwise, you would think one of the stories would mention that.

Which brings us full circle to what I've been suggesting all along . . . let's wait until more of the details are in before we reach conclusions.

236 posted on 09/21/2012 4:50:57 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Osage Orange
and apparently got the last violation ( a car issue ) dismissed

For what it's worth, the suspended license wasn't dismissed until two days after the guy was dead. Apparently, when he was driving and got into this accident, he was driving on a suspended license.

You don't shoot a guy for driving with a suspended license . . . but the guy may not have been a cheerful mood to exchange insurance information. Driving on a suspended license in Texas can net you six months in jail.

237 posted on 09/21/2012 5:21:24 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Uncle Chip

You said that Scott has reason to lie.....what is the reason?


238 posted on 09/21/2012 5:27:53 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Scoutmaster
And the woman may have been having a bit of road rage too.

We don't know the mood of either person.

239 posted on 09/21/2012 5:35:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange
We don't know the mood of either person.

I agree completely. Considering that - and with the conflicting eyewitness testimony and the police failure to charge her - I find it amusing that people are so willing to find the shooter guilty before more facts are in. I'm not saying you've taken that position.

240 posted on 09/21/2012 5:41:29 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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