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Why Do Gangsters Aim Their Guns Sideways? Marine Marksman Sheds Light On Gangbanger Tactics
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 4 October 2012 | Damien Gayle

Posted on 10/04/2012 8:21:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

So why do gangsters aim their guns sideways? Marine marksman sheds light on how gunmen from the 'hood unwittingly use a well-known aiming technique

Gangbangers

It's an iconic image immortalised in dozens of Hollywood gangster films: the gangster aiming down the side of his pistol before pumping a volley of bullets into his victim.

But with most people knowing that the aiming sights are found on the top of a gun barrel, it's also a counter-intuitive way to accurately fire a weapon.

So why is it that gangsters are always shown using their guns in this way? According to Jon Davis, a former marksmanship instructor with the U.S. Marine Corp, there is a good reason, at least in theory.

As a specialist in pistol marksmanship and a veteran of the war in Iraq, Mr Davis has fired these kinds of weapons thousands of times.

He explains that when aiming a handgun in the conventional, barrel-up manner the rear sites must line up with the front sight in the horizontal and vertical planes to make sure the bullet travels a straight line.

This important technique, known as 'building the castle' since the gunman has to line up the three 'turrets' into an even position, ensures that the barrel of the gun is aligned perfectly along the trajectory he wants the bullet to travel.

The problem with 'building the castle' each time you want to fire your gun is that it takes time. Time you might not have in a combat situation - or alternatively when you want to quickly execute your victim and make a fast getaway.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; firearms; flashsighting; gangbangers; gangster; ghetto; gunsandammo; sightalignment; thuglife; usmc
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To: MarkL

Yep.


21 posted on 10/04/2012 10:06:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DogByte6RER
I don't know about this guy's explanation but I found that shooting my .45 sideways, causing the recoil to go sideways instead of up, made it a lot easier to get back on target. That's on the premise that you are using the point-and-shoot method and not aiming.

Point-and-shoot shooting can be very accurate. It's the essence of shotgunning.

22 posted on 10/04/2012 10:14:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Vendome

“If you need a quick shit that is very effective practice punching your target.”

The “I” and “O” really are close together on a key board aren’t they?


23 posted on 10/04/2012 10:26:31 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: ETL

OOhhh, way cool


24 posted on 10/04/2012 10:27:19 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: MarkL

Having been unwittingly caught up in a gang-banger, dual-pistol execution field-of-fire (New Orleans, 2006), I can tell you that there are so many bullets, pieces of brick, cars, and everything else flying around, the shooter is bound to hit something. I was flat on the ground. My partner got part of a round in the top of the skull, but he’s a marine, so it didn’t hurt much. There were two others wounded, one fatality. These guys don’t aim, and they don’t get usually get caught, either. They don’t expect to live long, and they most interested in speed and volume.


25 posted on 10/04/2012 10:28:55 PM PDT by binreadin
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To: DogByte6RER

Doubtful that any of the gangsters have any concept of aiming, it’s point and shoot, that’s why so many innocent bystanders get shot.


26 posted on 10/04/2012 10:29:22 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: DogByte6RER
Um, gangbanger style aiming is utterly ineffective. But it looks badazz, and that's what matters to the bangers.

And I'm OK with that because when the SHTF it gives me a tactical advantage.

27 posted on 10/04/2012 10:31:57 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MarkL

Not a hand gun shooter, but wonder if holding it like that would interfere with ejection of spent shells.


28 posted on 10/04/2012 10:43:45 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus
Not a hand gun shooter, but wonder if holding it like that would interfere with ejection of spent shells.

Being left handed, and given the ejection pattern of my 1911, I'd wind up having the hot cases hit me in the knees or shins.

For a righty, my guess is that it would launch them over his head.

Mark

29 posted on 10/04/2012 11:30:40 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Holly_P

No Shot!


30 posted on 10/05/2012 12:00:41 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DogByte6RER
With all due respect, this article is meadow muffins.

Front sight acquire and fire...and hold the damn thing correctly.
31 posted on 10/05/2012 2:03:43 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Roccus

Lol. Depends. One of my guns seemed to *always* give me a hot shell down my shirt front :). Whatever way it was aimed.


32 posted on 10/05/2012 2:13:45 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Vendome

The real fasties use wheelguns. Slide can’t cycle fast enough to keep up with an expert revolver shooter.


33 posted on 10/05/2012 2:17:35 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: DogByte6RER

They think that’s the way you shoot it because that’s how it comes out of the box.


34 posted on 10/05/2012 2:47:44 AM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: DogByte6RER

Sorry, but they do it to look cool (which they don’t). Some even hold it up too high to even pretend to be aiming.


35 posted on 10/05/2012 4:04:41 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Hardraade; MarkL

Thank you both.


36 posted on 10/05/2012 4:11:04 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Vendome
If you need a quick shit that is very effective practice punching your target.


37 posted on 10/05/2012 4:18:27 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: expat2

” First, they are called “sights”, not sites.”

Really? Cite?

;)


38 posted on 10/05/2012 4:52:01 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: DogByte6RER
The author says...

The problem with tilt style shooting is that it is almost impossible to acquire a reliable sight alignment.

and... ...you have absolutely no way of knowing if the weapon is tilted down below your field of vision from the back of the weapon.

and......you never actually take the same shot twice since you are never actually aiming the same way.

Then, from all those negatives, he somehow ends up with this...

This, Mr Davis adds, shows that there is in fact a rational method behind why gangsters aim their weapon side on.

Thanks anyway, but I think I'll stay away from both the method and the twisted nonsensical logic.

39 posted on 10/05/2012 5:30:57 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: DogByte6RER
They do it because they believe it looks cool. End of story.
40 posted on 10/05/2012 5:37:23 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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