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Big News From Mars? Rover Scientists Mum For Now
npr.org ^ | Nov. 20, 2012 | Joe Palca

Posted on 11/20/2012 7:03:34 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Scientists working on NASA's six-wheeled rover on Mars have a problem. But it's a good problem.

They have some exciting new results from one of the rover's instruments. On the one hand, they'd like to tell everybody what they found, but on the other, they have to wait because they want to make sure their results are not just some fluke or error in their instrument.

It's a bind scientists frequently find themselves in, because by their nature, scientists like to share their results. At the same time, they're cautious because no one likes to make a big announcement and then have to say "never mind."

The exciting results are coming from an instrument in the rover called SAM. "We're getting data from SAM as we sit here and speak, and the data looks really interesting," John Grotzinger, the principal investigator for the rover mission, says during my visit last week to his office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. That's where data from SAM first arrive on Earth. "The science team is busily chewing away on it as it comes down," says Grotzinger.

SAM is a kind of miniature chemistry lab. Put a sample of Martian soil or rock or even air inside SAM, and it will tell you what the sample is made of.

Grotzinger says they recently put a soil sample in SAM, and the analysis shows something earthshaking. "This data is gonna be one for the history books. It's looking really good," he says.

Grotzinger can see the pained look on my face as I wait, hoping he'll tell me what the heck he's found, but he's not providing any more information.

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To: vladimir998

Bah - humbug! You sound like a future Grumpy Old Man.


81 posted on 11/21/2012 6:43:15 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dragnet2

You wrote:

“You sound like a gibbering fool.
No offense, take care.”

You say I should take no offense at that? Really I don’t take much since I know the source.


82 posted on 11/21/2012 6:57:39 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Windflier

Future? I might already be at the grumpy old man stage.


83 posted on 11/21/2012 6:58:42 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
The biggest impact would be to see if extraterrestrial life is based on the same DNA we have including the guanine-cytosine and adenine-thymine base pairs. If it is the same, then both might come from the same source (Earth, Mars, somewhere else or equipment contamination). On the other hand, if some DNA alternative is found on Mars that will be a huge advance in biology.
84 posted on 11/21/2012 7:19:47 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
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To: Windflier

Water from Saturn and Jupiter are not in solar/Earth orbit.


85 posted on 11/21/2012 10:00:22 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: vladimir998

>> “ I might already be at the grumpy old man stage.” <<

.
Good! Join the club :o)

These fools are chompin at the bit for something that they’re not going to find: life that isn’t Earth-originated.


86 posted on 11/21/2012 10:07:57 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Earth is the only possible source of the water

Astronomers recently discovered the most water vapor ever detected, about 12 billion light years away surrounding a quasar, in the amount of about 140 *trillion* times all the water in our oceans.

In this environment it continues to produce this mass amount of water vapor according to astronomers. Astronomers found water is pervasive throughout the universe, going back to the early stages of the universe. In fact, there is water vapor and water in the form of frozen ice all over our Milky Way Galaxy.

Gas clouds observed in Orion region alone are said to generate enough water molecules in a single day to fill the Earth's oceans sixty times over. It's believed much of the water in the solar system was originally produced in a giant water-vapor clouds like the one observed in Orion.

87 posted on 11/21/2012 1:01:58 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>> “Astronomers recently discovered the most water vapor ever detected, about 12 billion light years away” <<

Do you envision that arriving here soon?

“It’s believed...” - Mostly by propagandists for ignorance.


88 posted on 11/21/2012 1:10:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Water from Saturn and Jupiter are not in solar/Earth orbit.

So what's your point? That any comet that orbits the sun came from Earth? Nut hatchery.

89 posted on 11/21/2012 4:20:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

The comets are principally in an orbit around Earth. Some of them are also coplanar with the sun.

Study Johannes Kepler’s theorem if you wish to understand, rather than making a fool of yourself further.


90 posted on 11/21/2012 4:38:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Fzob
They found John Boehner’s spine?

Naw, the rover didn't bring a microscope.

91 posted on 11/21/2012 4:43:29 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Nasa to engineers... “ Just ignore the old building foundations off to the left, just keep digging.”


92 posted on 11/21/2012 4:46:00 PM PST by jetson
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To: editor-surveyor
The comets are principally in an orbit around Earth.

Don't think so, pal. Every comet I've ever heard of, orbits the sun.

Some of them are also coplanar with the sun.

Which means WHAT, exactly? That all comets which orbit our sun, originated from Earth?

Answer the question and stop being so weirdly cryptic.

I'm asking you a straight question. If you know what you say you know, then explain your position. If your final defense is to tell me to study the works of Johann Kepler, then you've conceded the argument. That's a coward's cop out.

93 posted on 11/21/2012 4:50:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
They're trying to make sure the latest image retrieved wasn't a practical joke...


94 posted on 11/21/2012 4:54:06 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Earth is the only possible source of the water

Astronomers recently discovered the most water vapor ever detected, about 12 billion light years away surrounding a quasar, in the amount of about 140 *trillion* times all the water in our oceans.

In this environment it continues to produce this mass amount of water vapor according to astronomers. Astronomers found water is pervasive throughout the universe, going back to the early stages of the universe. In fact, there is water vapor and water in the form of frozen ice all over our Milky Way Galaxy.

Gas clouds observed in Orion region alone are said to generate enough water molecules in a single day to fill the Earth's oceans sixty times over. It's believed much of the water in the solar system was originally produced in a giant water-vapor clouds like the one observed in Orion.

Do you envision that arriving here soon?

And that has what to do with your comment at the top of this post?

95 posted on 11/21/2012 5:10:04 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: editor-surveyor
The comets are principally in an orbit around Earth.

Incorrect again.

96 posted on 11/21/2012 5:11:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Hey Einstein, the Earth orbits of the comets are mapped. You can buy tables that tell you where they are at almost any time so that you can find them as they approach.

Having a bad day?


97 posted on 11/21/2012 7:04:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dragnet2

You do realize that nothing in your post is relevent to this discussion?

(fire engines are red, so they’re rushin too)


98 posted on 11/21/2012 7:07:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Windflier

The comets do not orbit the sun, they are in orbit about the Earth, and their positions are describable relative to the Earth. The Earth lies in the plane of their orbit.


99 posted on 11/21/2012 7:09:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The comets do not orbit the sun, they are in orbit about the Earth, and their positions are describable relative to the Earth.

I'm no astronomer, but that doesn't pass the smell test. Comets have orbits with very long periodicity, and swing so far out into the solar system, that they can take nearly a hundred years to cycle.

It's utterly counter-intuitive to think that a planet as small as earth has enough gravitational force to entrap such an object. But the sun? Absolutely.

100 posted on 11/21/2012 7:19:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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