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Passenger plane involved in near miss with UFO near Glasgow airport
stv.tv ^ | 1 May 2013 08:02 BST

Posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The UK Airprox Board – which investigates near misses in the skies – heard the incident had taken place at around 3500ft.

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The report concluded: “Members were of the opinion that, in the absence of a primary radar return, it was unlikely that the untraced ac was a fixed-wing or rotary-wing ac or man-carrying balloon.

“It was considered that a meteorological balloon would be radar significant and unlikely to be released in the area of the Airprox.

“A glider could not be discounted but it was felt unlikely that one would be operating in that area, both due to the constrained airspace and the lack of thermal activity due to the low temperature.

“Similarly, The Board considered that a hang-glider or para-motor would be radar significant and that conditions precluded them, as they did para-gliders or parascenders. Members were unable to reach a conclusion as to a likely candidate.”

(Excerpt) Read more at local.stv.tv ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: glasgow; nearmiss; ufo

1 posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Gee what’s invisible to radar and flies at 35k feet....


2 posted on 05/02/2013 2:57:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BenLurkin

3 posted on 05/02/2013 3:02:51 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

"..oops sorry"

4 posted on 05/02/2013 3:03:59 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Norm Lenhart

An F-22?

I wonder if when flying in American airspace and not needing their radar profile hidden, do they have a radar responder?


5 posted on 05/02/2013 3:04:01 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: yarddog

22s, dones, ‘retired’ (sure) 117s....


6 posted on 05/02/2013 3:05:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BenLurkin

Don’t worry, a UFO does not travel hundreds of light years through space, or even through time itself, only to collide with a a slow-moving human aircraft.


7 posted on 05/02/2013 3:06:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Norm Lenhart

It’s rascals from Top Gear again!


8 posted on 05/02/2013 3:06:40 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Afterguard

Superman escaping from DC Comics after the latest effort to make him gay?


9 posted on 05/02/2013 3:07:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BenLurkin

When two planes almost collide, they call it a ‘near miss’. It’s a near hit. A collision is a near miss. - George Carlin


10 posted on 05/02/2013 3:10:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

11 posted on 05/02/2013 3:12:38 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: BenLurkin

The UK should do something about those creatures from outer space...or about the drug problem.


12 posted on 05/02/2013 3:12:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: PGR88

Don’t worry, a UFO does not travel hundreds of light years through space, or even through time itself, only to collide with a a slow-moving human aircraft.

That is like saying that since we can fly planes we shouldn’t be having any more car accidents...

Of that because we can drive cars we shouldn’t be hitting things with boats or submarines...

It is easy to move in the vacuum of space, but maybe moving in an atmosphere is tricky as they have little experience with air turbulence..


13 posted on 05/02/2013 3:20:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: BenLurkin
Hmmmmm.

This thread from earlier today:

14 posted on 05/02/2013 3:20:12 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: JoeProBono

A predator drone.


15 posted on 05/02/2013 3:25:53 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Just another “Alien” looking for asylum


16 posted on 05/02/2013 3:30:39 PM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: TomGuy

Makes sense.


17 posted on 05/02/2013 3:32:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
"Och, aye 'twas a huge beastie the shape of a haggis but the size o' the football pitch at Dunkeld!"

(Actual witness statement)

CC

18 posted on 05/02/2013 3:33:57 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"Superman escaping from DC Comics after the latest effort to make him gay?"

I sure hope he makes it. Because meanwhile some supervillain appears to have turned a gay ray on most political capitals and even republican candidates.

19 posted on 05/02/2013 3:35:56 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Norm Lenhart
"Superman escaping from DC Comics after the latest effort to make him gay?"

I sure hope he makes it. Because meanwhile some supervillain appears to have turned a gay ray on most political capitals and even republican candidates.

20 posted on 05/02/2013 3:35:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Only a matter of time. Unfortunately.


21 posted on 05/02/2013 3:37:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BenLurkin
Star Trek TOS Tomorrow is Yesterday
22 posted on 05/02/2013 3:40:38 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: Celtic Conservative

23 posted on 05/02/2013 3:42:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Norm Lenhart

3500 feet.

It looks like the Airbus was on approach.


24 posted on 05/02/2013 3:43:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: TomGuy; BenLurkin

“Was the Drone/UAV Hovering in the JFK Landing Approach Kill Zone (LAKZ) a Failed Terrorist Attack?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3014942/posts

There was NO radar return for the multi-copter that missed the Alitalia airliner by 200 feet five miles out on the runway 31R landing approach at about 1,500 to 1700 feet altitude.


25 posted on 05/02/2013 3:43:35 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Well...it was a sighting over Scotland....
26 posted on 05/02/2013 3:47:58 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: BenLurkin
"we come in peace, och aye! take me to your leader( but first, a wee dram) "

EET

(Ewen the Extra-Terrestrial)

CC

27 posted on 05/02/2013 3:49:48 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
That or a really large fuse


28 posted on 05/02/2013 3:52:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Seizethecarp; BenLurkin

In the US it is “illegal” to fly a drone above 400 feet and/or out of line of sight. If you are not a law-abiding citizen you can fly it 20 to 30 miles away and to the limit of the flight envelop of the aircraft.

“Video piloting (first-person view)”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-controlled_aircraft

First-person view (FPV) flight is a type of remote-control flying that has grown in popularity in recent years. It involves mounting a small video camera and television transmitter on an RC aircraft and flying by means of a live video down-link, commonly displayed on video goggles or a portable LCD screen. When flying FPV, the pilot sees from the aircraft’s perspective, and does not even have to look at the model. As a result, FPV aircraft can be flown well beyond visual range, limited only by the range of the remote control and video transmitter. Video transmitters typically operate at a power level between 200 mW and 1500 mW. The most common frequencies used for video transmission are 900 MHz, 1.2 GHz, 2.4 GHz, and 5.8 GHz.[5] Specialized long-range UHF control systems operating at 433 MHz (for amateur radio licensees only) or 869 MHz[5] are commonly used to achieve greater control range, while the use of directional, high-gain antennas increases video range. Sophisticated setups are capable of achieving a range of 20–30 miles or more.[6]

A basic FPV system consists of a camera, video transmitter, video receiver, and a display. More advanced setups commonly add in specialized hardware, including on-screen displays with GPS navigation and flight data, stabilization systems, and autopilot devices with “return to home” capability—allowing the aircraft to fly back to its starting point on its own in the event of signal loss. On-board cameras can be equipped with a pan and tilt mount, which when coupled with video goggles and “head tracking” devices creates a truly immersive, first-person experience, as if the pilot was actually sitting in the cockpit of the RC aircraft.[5]

Both helicopters and fixed-wing RC aircraft are used for FPV flight. The most commonly chosen airframes for FPV planes are larger models with sufficient payload space for the video equipment and large wings capable of supporting the extra weight. Pusher-propeller planes are preferred so that the propeller is not in view of the camera. “Flying wing” designs are also popular for FPV, as they provide the best combination of large wing surface area, speed, maneuverability, and gliding ability. FPV aircraft are frequently used for aerial photography and videography, and many videos of FPV flights can be found on popular video sites such as YouTube and Vimeo.

In the United States, the Academy of Model Aeronautics’ own safety code forbids the pilot of the model from observing its flight solely with onboard video, requiring the modeler to strictly use their own natural vision, only augmented by corrective eyewear when prescribed, throughout the flight to observe and safely control the model.[7]


29 posted on 05/02/2013 4:01:08 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Yosemitest

ping...


30 posted on 05/03/2013 9:08:18 AM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: BenLurkin; TomGuy; Norm Lenhart; Yosemitest; Travis McGee; null and void; Old Sarge

“The board head the object passed directly beneath the plane before either of the crew had time to take avoiding action or had ‘really registered it’ although they were both agreed that it appeared blue and yellow or silver in colour with a small frontal area but that it was ‘bigger than a balloon’.”

The “UFO” that was 300 feet from the A320 approaching Glasgow at 3,500 feet was Blue and yellow or silver? I did a search on “blue yellow model copter” and sorted to the larger ones that would be capable of attaining 3,500 feet with the hardware for first-person view (FPV) video piloting installed as described here:

“Video piloting (first-person view)”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-controlled_aircraft

“First-person view (FPV) flight is a type of remote-control flying that has grown in popularity in recent years. It involves mounting a small video camera and television transmitter on an RC aircraft and flying by means of a live video down-link, commonly displayed on video goggles or a portable LCD screen. When flying FPV, the pilot sees from the aircraft’s perspective, and does not even have to look at the model. As a result, FPV aircraft can be flown well beyond visual range, limited only by the range of the remote control and video transmitter. Video transmitters typically operate at a power level between 200 mW and 1500 mW. The most common frequencies used for video transmission are 900 MHz, 1.2 GHz, 2.4 GHz, and 5.8 GHz.[5] Specialized long-range UHF control systems operating at 433 MHz (for amateur radio licensees only) or 869 MHz[5] are commonly used to achieve greater control range, while the use of directional, high-gain antennas increases video range. Sophisticated setups are capable of achieving a range of 20–30 miles or more.”

I quickly came up with a large, newly available, high-performance, bright BLUE and YELLOW copter with a 6.5 foot diameter SILVER rotor, the “GOBLIN 770” by “44GHz”:

“Goblin 770 Initial Color Scheme”

http://www.44ghz.com/goblin-770-initial-color-scheme/

At the link just below are videos of the Goblin 770 doing stupefying aerial acrobatics as well as achieving very high velocity (one video is of the Blue and Yellow model):

“Goblin 770 and Kyle Stacey” (try and fail to destroy the copter at high speed, high gravity)

http://www.44ghz.com/goblin-770-and-kyle-stacey/

“If you can’t get enough Goblin 770 action, check out this video of the new 800-sized electric bird being flown by SAB Heli Division Team Pilot, Kyle Stacey. This piece of mechanical artwork sells for just shy of $1,200 US in kit form (the helicopter, not Kyle). ... :)”

If not this one, a mini-copter in this class would be my best guess for the UFO involved in the Glasgow near miss.


31 posted on 05/03/2013 5:41:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Doesn't look anything like a haggis..

32 posted on 05/03/2013 5:59:03 PM PDT by null and void ("Och, aye 'twas a huge beastie the shape of a haggis but the size o' the football pitch at Dunkeld!")
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To: BenLurkin

Here is a high quality amateur YouTube video of a cargo ship under way shot by a quadcopter under FPV (first-person view) control by a merchant seaman.

The quadcopter is highly maneuverable even in blustery over-water wind conditions and appears to easily achieve altitudes in excess of 3,500 feet, the Glasgow UFO intercept altitude.

“Cruddcopter FPV - Seaman Style (GoPro 3 Black) HD”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xvmOEmbyco

The seaman is pictured in the video with a FPV headset that looks like this “FatShark” headset system:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28750__FatShark_AttitudeSD_FPV_Headset_System_w_5_8G_TX.html


33 posted on 05/03/2013 6:14:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Totally unrelated other than the camera which is amazing, this one is jumping off a cliff along with a dog, which is chasing a ball into the ocean on Bermuda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EREQEy2tOxo


34 posted on 05/03/2013 6:36:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BenLurkin

Here is a more detailed report of the Glasgow “UFO” encounter with transcript from (you quessed it) the Daily Mail!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317156/Airbus-pilot-moment-passenger-plane-came-close-crashing-UFO-flying-Glasgow.html

“This is a transcript of what the A320 pilot told the control tower.”

A320: ‘Glasgow Approach [A320 C/S]’

Air Traffic Control: ‘[A320 C/S] pass your message’

A320: ‘Er yeah we just had something pass underneath us quite close and nothing on TCAS have you got anything on in our area’

Control: ‘Er negative er we’ve got nothing on er radar and we’re n-not talking to any traffic either’

A320: ‘Er not quite sure what it was but it definitely er quite large and it’s blue and yellow’

Control: ‘OK that’s understood er do you have a an estimate for the height’

A320: ‘Maybe er yeah we were probably about erm four hundred to five hundred feet above it so it’s probably about three and a half thousand feet.

‘…we seemed to only miss it by a couple of hundred feet it went directly beneath us … wherever we were when we called it in it was within about ten seconds

‘… couldn’t tell what direction it was going but it went right underneath us”’

Control: ‘do you suspect it might have been a glider or something like that’

A320: ‘well maybe a microlight … it just looked too big for a balloon.”


35 posted on 05/03/2013 6:55:44 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Massive BUMP for later...

And a hearty thank-you, Carp...


36 posted on 05/04/2013 5:25:16 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like a passenger van


37 posted on 05/05/2013 8:03:19 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: GraceG

Well said.


38 posted on 05/05/2013 9:43:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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