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The Reason Why No Air Power was Scrambled to Benghazi?
ASB | 05/16/13 | ASB

Posted on 05/16/2013 10:53:15 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius

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61 posted on 05/16/2013 12:10:44 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Okay so running soviet weapons is just as bad as running U.S. weapons, but he said it was “treason”. How is it “treason”.

My guess is that it’s illegal, though I’m not sure of that.


62 posted on 05/16/2013 12:13:56 PM PDT by DannyTN
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U.S. officials estimate that the late Moammar Gaddafi’s Libya may have had as many as 20,000 MANPADS missile systems and that several thousand of them turned up missing during the civil war there last year.

Al-Taieb, the Aleppo opposition activist, would not talk about the possibility that Syrian rebels were buying some of the Libyan missiles.

“In the coming days we will have a consignment of MANPADS, Insha’Allah,” says al-Taieb. Asked whether if rebels managed to secure MANPADS, would they have trouble moving them into Turkey and then across the border, he responded:

“The Turkish government turns a blind eye to some things but not others.”

http://www.voanews.com/content/syrian-rebels-step-up-efforts-to-get-anti-aircraft-missiles/1489899.html


63 posted on 05/16/2013 12:17:17 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: DannyTN
Supplying Al Qaeda would be treason in any real American's book.


64 posted on 05/16/2013 12:20:26 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Sniff, sniff... This whole episode starts smelling of exactly this kind of treachery. However, from his position of influence, IMO, Michael Reagan shouldn’t speculate that way without having something concrete to back it up.

The phony demonstrations, all sudden and all at the same time, the phony video, the lame attempt to link Benghazi to the video, it all looks like a childish reaction and it all looks like camouflage for something hidden. I wouldn’t be surprised if Michael were correct.

It’s the kind of thing that our leaders of all stripes won’t let become public, because it’s unthinkable.


65 posted on 05/16/2013 12:27:32 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Uncle Miltie

Which is why Stevens was left to die.


66 posted on 05/16/2013 12:42:08 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

No excuse. A drone (I don’t know if it was a Predator or a Global Hawk) orbited over the scene for hours without being bothered by MANPADs. A low-level supersonic pass by an F-16 would happen too fast for a MANPADS operator to react.


67 posted on 05/16/2013 12:59:13 PM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You cannot go if you are not sent. F-4 Pilot


68 posted on 05/16/2013 1:13:22 PM PDT by Rodentking (There is no God but Yahweh and Moses is his prophet - http://www.airpower.blogspot.com/)
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To: Chaguito

I really agree with you. I believe it’s wise to consider various scenarios, even some that seem especially sinister, but I’m not sure how wise it was for a man in his position to openly speculate about murder.


69 posted on 05/16/2013 2:08:37 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I did not contradict myself. You are just not a pilot. When at the IP and or popping into a target during LATS/RATS you pop chaff/flare........both simultaneously and not just one. You do not know all the threats in the area. Even if your (not saying type or designations classified)threat indicator is not picking up any type of radar or other electronic threat emissions, there are other portable and self propelled A/A with an ability to paint your a$$ in a millisecond. Depending on the dispenser in an automatic set up a sequence of release is initiated.
70 posted on 05/16/2013 2:24:00 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Interesting theory.

Why FBI on scene one month later and only for a short time? Is that enough to investigate four Americans murdered, including an Ambassador, and other injuries of the 30 odd people on the ground at that time?

Nobody can answer satisfactorily why the compound (OUR compound) was not secured immediately afterwards. How was that standard operating procedure?

71 posted on 05/16/2013 2:32:39 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: TigersEye

>>> .... will go into any situation without question. That’s what they do.

There is no doubt about that part on our men (and women).

But remember they were/are under the command of our Pansy President, Commie Panetta, and Hilderbeast, and who knows who else (Tom Donilon? or he’s just the mop up guy?).


72 posted on 05/16/2013 2:40:18 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Supplying Al Qaeda would be treason in any real American's book."

Normally I'd agree with that, but if the purpose was to take down Assad who is known to support terrorism, then it gets a little grey. There is a strategy that says get your enemies to fight each other. Not a strategy I'd normally advocate. But I doubt I'd lose any sleep over enemies fighting each other.

And the reason I asked the question, was the original post made it sound like "if" the weapons were Soviet it would be treason. Which didn't make any sense to me.

73 posted on 05/16/2013 5:08:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

It is a possible reason. It’s also possible Obastard was playing games with the lives of our people in Libya to engineer an October Surprise, and the violent Muzzies surprised him by being, well, violent.


74 posted on 05/16/2013 5:32:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: DannyTN

I want the Syrians to fight themselves to the finish, exhausted, to the last man.

But MANPADs to Al Qaeda will arrive in New York for use at JFK. Obambi miscalculated.


75 posted on 05/16/2013 5:34:31 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Did you ever hear of flares?


76 posted on 05/16/2013 5:35:28 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
But remember they were/are under the command of our Pansy President, Commie Panetta, and Hilderbeast, and who knows who else (Tom Donilon? or he’s just the mop up guy?).

I think that's the point I've been making for eight months.
But thanks for the reminder.

77 posted on 05/16/2013 10:40:42 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
The number one reason is that the event did not occur, Ambassador Stevens was on a Black Ops mission that did exist. Just like in the opening of the Mission Impossible, “As always, should you or any of your I.M. Force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions”. But the rest of the military people didn't get the memo, and so went to the Ambassadors defense.
78 posted on 05/17/2013 5:51:58 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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