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1 posted on 05/25/2013 7:35:47 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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It’s worse than profiting from a fictitious disease. He’s responsible for drugging millions of children. He’s also responsible for causing millions of kids and their parents to make excuses rather than fix the problem.

I’m not willing to say that there are zero kids who need some sort of intervention. But I have seen dozens whose attention deficit is a deficit of attention from their parents. So they act up to get attention.

I’ve seen dozens of parents who can’t accept that their kid is a B student or a C student, so they will grasp at any excuse to explain it away.

I’ve seen dozens of kids who are bright and high energy but have been drugged because it’s too much work for the teacher to deal with them and the parents have been suckered into it by “experts.” It might remove some of the rough edges a kid has, but it also removes all of the best things about the kid, his/her passion and drive.


2 posted on 05/25/2013 7:49:24 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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The threat of that diagnosis prompted us to homeschool.

As a teacher myself, I knew that my “wildman” son would drive any poor elementary teacher with a room full of kids crazy.

I was able to make him run laps BEFORE “classes”, and had no problem letting him read his lessons while standing on his head (literally).


3 posted on 05/25/2013 7:52:17 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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I had a friend who was told by her young son’s teacher that he should be tested for ADHD. She watched him as he did his homework...sure enough, he was fidgeting and losing focus after a while...but ADHD? She bought the boy a “standing desk” and presto, no more problems when he was doing homework.

She asked the teacher if she could buy one for him (or any other child) to use in the classroom. Teacher said nix nix - Ritalin was probably the best solution. The boy is now in a private school, he and his classmates can use the standing desk that the mother provided, and he’s getting good grades and enjoying life.

Just a story about something that happened to someone I know. YMMV.


8 posted on 05/25/2013 8:18:35 AM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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John Maynard Keynes came to a similar conclusion regarding his”Keynesian Theory”!Government spending NEVER brought back ANY economy and yet the LEFT still embrace it as “DOCTRINE”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 05/25/2013 8:30:49 AM PDT by bandleader
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While I do believe some children are naturally overly hyperactive (not that it is a disease) I’ve always been skeptical of ADHD. The methodology for diagnosis is so loose that any child under the right conditions can be labeled diseased or increasingly it is disabled. I know of a mother who is just not a very good parent who managed to get both of her boys labeled disabled because of ADHD. I feel bad for the two boys and it pains me that so many kids suffer because of their idiot parents.

Its also very clear that far too often ADHD is used as a way to define maleness as a disease since boys are far more likely to demonstrate behavior that fits the list of symptoms and since teachers are mostly women many who don’t have children of their own they don’t have the context nor the incentive deal with boys from homes that lack discipline and stability when they can just recommend they be drugged.

I personally believe the advent of the increase of behaviors labeled “ADHD” is a product of modern broken homes where boys don’t have fathers that act like fathers if they see them at all nor do they often have mothers that behave like real Moms if they are even there. If they are lucky they are raised by a grandmother that has some sense but the problem with that is if the Mom isn’t a good Mom the likelihood that the grandmother isn’t an enabler is low. We also have the advent of the two parent working families where kids have less interaction with their real parents and less clear stability with kids being bounced around from event to event and care giver to care giver.

ADHD I believe to a certain point is just an excuse to drug young boys and neuter them to fit a leftist progressive society not that I believe it is purposeful as much as a symptom of leftist progressive ideas related to feminism and the general feminization of maleness in America. Expect this to get worse with the lgbt and feminist agenda in schools. The deviants are already being elevated to special status while those boys that have normal male drives are being demonized more frequently.


11 posted on 05/25/2013 8:32:42 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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Tom Cruise is right about one thing... psychiatry.
18 posted on 05/25/2013 9:21:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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20 posted on 05/25/2013 9:30:15 AM PDT by narses
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The way to make money is to identify (or create) a problem, then sell a cure or fix for it. The psych business has that down to a science. So do the anti-virus companies (I’ll bet they hire wonks to create the virus that they can conveniently “cure”).


23 posted on 05/25/2013 10:16:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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I’m sure there are plenty of children who are misdiagnosed, and I’m also sure that the diagnosis and medication of kids is driven partly by the incentives offered to school systems for doing so. I’m sure that in some cases bad parenting or food additives or allergies or extreme intelligence or too much time spent in front of a screen are alternative explanations.

But some people really do have ADD or ADHD. It’s not an imaginary problem; it can be a flaw in brain circuitry. If you accept that it’s possible to be born with a flaw in the liver or kidneys or eyes, why is it hard to believe that the far more complex organ, the brain, could sometimes fail to run perfectly?

I have ADD. My children—both now grown, healthy, productive adults who are achieving real success—have it. I inherited it from my late father, who (believe me!) was raised in a time and place where lax discipline, food additives, and online stimulation were not possible. Though I was a good little girl and got excellent marks right through grad school, I spent my whole life wondering what was wrong with me and why I couldn’t focus. I tried so hard but I was always confused and couldn’t grasp any information that came in through my ears. And I assure you, there was no lack of time, attention, or traditional discipline in our household that you could blame for my perpetual confusion.

Medication changed my life. I wish they had this stuff when my father was a boy and when I was a girl. How different things would have been, how much less frustration and confusion and failure there would have been for us!


25 posted on 05/25/2013 10:49:50 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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I have a son diagnosed with ADHD.

It isn’t fictitious. Maybe the name is wrong.

When you can hear the difference in his ability to read before and after medication, it isn’t a fantasy.

Pre-med, he would skip entire words, reading in a halting, “train-wreck” fashion.

30 minutes after medication, he stopped skipping words, reading smoothly.

He wasn’t a behavioral problem. He has a problem getting his mind to slow down to process words.

Call it ADHD, call it whatever you want. But it isn’t a myth.


26 posted on 05/25/2013 11:17:49 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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In the past they knew how to weed out the overly wild boys, they installed death traps at the schools.

Look at this thing closely, it is not like the swing sets of today and that slide is not the slide we think of today, it seems designed to kill, and look at the heights that they were at.

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27 posted on 05/25/2013 1:11:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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