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Went to the mail box and was aggressed by new neighbors Pit Bull (Freeper opinions requested)

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

I retired 10 years ago to take of elderly parents. Dad died peacefully last year and Mom is still kicking.

After spending the afternoon in the eye doc's office with Mom, came home and, after settling her down, went for the mail.

New neighbor has a Pit-Bull and today this dog was loose. As I went to the mail box, the dog ran over to the middle of the street (perhaps 15 feet away) and bared his teeth.

His owners were in the yard but did not call the dog. At the same time a UPS truck stop in front of their house, but the driver refused to get out of his truck.

Question is "what steps do I take as a good citizen?"

The next door neighbors inherited the house from the girl's grandmother. The girl's husband is a born again Christian...but he was previously in prison for drugs.

Pit Bull is young but large and aggressive.

Freeper opinions appreciated.

BTW, I have cats who lounge around in the front yard. If this dog kills my cats...I am apt to become upset. And an upset Freeper (armed to the teeth) is not a nice thing to behold.


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To: RoosterRedux; NCDave

I agree with NCDave. Dogs are smarter than most give credit. They understand that we walk upright, making them prey. Most people cow to large dogs and they make themselves vulnerable to attack.

Have your neighbor introduce you to their four footed child, and procede from there, unless you’re uncomfortable...dogs do sense unease.

Let us know how it turns out!


141 posted on 08/07/2013 7:48:52 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Saimey
Ask about his home insurance and then report him to his insurance carrier.

Excellent point...many insurance companies will yank your homeowners' policy if they find out that you own a pit bull.

142 posted on 08/07/2013 7:51:11 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Simple...Mace.

One shot and it’ll never come near you again.

I disagree with others who say get to cops involved. One never knows on whose side the cops will come down. Don’t trust them to be objective for a minute.

Once they’re ‘invited’ on to your property, there’s no telling where their interest will en.

I had a neighbor’s terrier get into my yard a few years ago and maul one of my chickens. I called him, he came over like a man, we discussed and no problem since.


143 posted on 08/07/2013 7:51:11 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: usconservative
Thank you for that post. I love all animals, except for evil spawn-of-satan rats, but currently own a cat. Hope to have a dog as well someday. I will not say on an open post what would happen to a neighbor's pet that hurt one of them, as internet records can be subpeonaed (sp?), but suffice to say that if the animal was quick enough to dodge the two-foot-long garden pickaxe that I would immediately gone after it with and the neighbors managed to get it to safety, there is a more permanent solution that could occur. The french name for an old wooden pair of shoes comes to mind, the exact one should not be posted for possible legal ramifications, but it rhymes closely with "$halot". Those with a familiarity with reloading would know best.

The next time the beast got outside, it would be a shame if a sudden case of lead injection occurred from nowhere close by and no firearm found that could have possibly inserted it.

Too, My pet(s) are indoor ones, but they go oot in the evenings for some fresh air and a chance to run about for awhile, then come in when they are ready for dinner. I do not take kindly to threats, most especially to those whom I care for.

144 posted on 08/07/2013 7:51:49 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Introduce yourself to your new neighbors. I suggest something like, “Hi, I’m DocRock and I just wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood. I couldn’t help notice that when your pit was aggressive yesterday, you saw it and didn’t do anything. So, as a welcome gift, I didn’t shoot your dog. What church do you go to? “


145 posted on 08/07/2013 7:52:29 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Jane Long

Now kindly start talking sensible and you won’t need to worry about what I do.

(actually, I didn’t really know about your depends, it was just a good guess)


146 posted on 08/07/2013 7:52:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lots of big tough dogs do. I’ve seen quite a few instances of cats and dogs getting along perfectly well. This doesn’t sound like the sort of dog that’s been socialized to deal with cats, or for that matter humans, and that means the dog’s a danger because of its dumb owner.

I’m not a reflexive pit hater. If anything, I like them and will always give them a chance. However, this dog’s blown it.

I have absolutely zero tolerance for unwarranted aggression in animals.


147 posted on 08/07/2013 7:53:04 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: SgtBob

It’s not “my” responsibility to befriend “your” pet. A lot of dog owners have a problem with this.


148 posted on 08/07/2013 7:53:04 PM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: NCDave

I lived next to a part pit for 1 year. After giving the dog biscuits every day for months, I offered to help them with their pool cover. The owner of the dog had to restrain her from attacking me until I got up on the pool deck. I guess she knew my feelings about pits even though I tried to be friendly.


149 posted on 08/07/2013 7:55:36 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: DocRock; RoosterRedux
Great reply!

I think this part of the original post is being missed by a lot of the dog-defenders here: I couldn’t help notice that when your pit was aggressive yesterday, you saw it and didn’t do anything.

150 posted on 08/07/2013 7:55:47 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: RoosterRedux
As I went to the mail box, the dog ran over to the middle of the street (perhaps 15 feet away) and bared his teeth.

At the point when the dog bared its teeth, the dog served notice that they are dangerous.

His owners were in the yard but did not call the dog.

At the point when the neighbored ignored the danger, the neighbor served notice that they are inconsiderate.

Call the police.

151 posted on 08/07/2013 7:56:45 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Fire_on_High

Sounds like the dog went to its boundary, stopped, and barked.

That is just typical dog behavior that can be eliminated with some training, and socialization. Dogs that are kept in a yard alone all day tend to behave like that. Those are the kind that I seem to encounter most.


152 posted on 08/07/2013 7:58:48 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: driftdiver

I understand and agree. They kept getting out(bad owner), and if there were signs of ill will, you take steps. It is all about control of the animal.


153 posted on 08/07/2013 7:59:13 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: All

1st the obvious
a. Keep the cats inside until situation is resolved, otherwise it is just a question of when, not if they will be killed
b. make sure all doors and windows are secure at all times (no thin screen doors, windows with screens not open wide enough for a dog to squeeze in)
c. make sure you are prepared to defend your self at all times


Even if you are lucky enough to have a reasonable, friendly conversation with the dogs owner; the dog will get out. Someone will leave a gate open,the fence will have a weak point, etc

No matter what they say; do not ever assume they will be “responsible”. The very fact they chose this breed, is proof they are not responsible.

Of course it is worth the effort to speak with them and express your fear and assure them it is not personnel,
but let them know that they will be receiving a registered letter from your attorney concerning the consequences of their not securing their dog 100% of the time. Also inform them you will in fact call the police and file a complaint each and every time the dog is seen off the leash or running loose.
Bottom line is simply ask yourself “What is the worst that could happen? Assume that will happen(because it will) and act accordingly.
I love dogs and it would tear me up to ever harm one, but sadly your only real option may be to kill the dog the second it steps on your property.
Alternately you could search the web and find a less drastic solution like getting some non-lethal weapon/stun gun/spray


154 posted on 08/07/2013 7:59:37 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: Ray76

>> It’s not “my” responsibility to befriend “your” pet. <<

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Some truth to that, but if you plan to live long, it is your responsibility to learn how to deal effectively with the hazards that you might encounter, in real time, not on a FR thread.


155 posted on 08/07/2013 8:02:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
And some of those dog shooters probably live near you.

Everyone around me is a responsible pet owner who has no need to shoot another responsible pet owners animals.
156 posted on 08/07/2013 8:03:33 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: huldah1776

Some dogs are stupid, just like us. They are too stupid to remember. Anyway, yes, dogs sense your fear and think you have done wrong or are up to no good...Kinda like us if we look around and are always in guard mode. (which we should be)


157 posted on 08/07/2013 8:04:01 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: RoosterRedux

The pitbull is extremely dangerous. Last week it appeared friendly to you but this week it bared it’s teeth and was ready to attack. This is the norm for the breed, being unpredictable is the predictable behavior. It will attack with intent to kill without warning.
The breed is usually owned by psychopathic inbred white trash although in some cases the owners are just dumb and without a shred of common sense. Blacks who own these dogs are as unpredictable and violent as the dogs themselves, being equally dangerous. Your best chance is to avoid the owners and the dog until you see the opportunity to neutralize the beast.


158 posted on 08/07/2013 8:04:54 PM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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To: jy8z

And just where do you suppose these hip shooters live?


159 posted on 08/07/2013 8:04:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FreeReign
At the point when the dog bared its teeth, the dog served notice that they are dangerous.

Exactly right. It should be regarded as a serious threat.

160 posted on 08/07/2013 8:08:04 PM PDT by Ken H
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