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Geocaching explodes, leaving some cities to wrestle with regulating the treasure-hunt hobby
Kansas City Star ^ | August 6, 2013 | TERI SCHAEFER

Posted on 08/08/2013 12:40:57 AM PDT by Daffynition

.....It’s a geocache (gee-oh-cash).

And finding these modern-day treasure chests is worth more than the hunt, devotees say.

“It gets you outside — gets you exercise. And while your mind can wander while you’re walking, it makes you think, solve puzzles,” says Kevin Venator, 45, a Johnson County geocacher.

Interest is very high in the sport right now, Venator said. “It’s exploding,” he said.

Geocaching has become so popular that cities have had to wrestle with the hobby. If a geocacher looks out of place or suspicious, homeowners might call police. That could result in an altercation.

The practice recently came up at a Leawood City Council meeting. Council members asked their parks and recreation director, Chris Claxton, if they needed to issue a policy or ordinance to regulate the practice.

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Travel; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: geocaching
Is there any limit to overreach by the Progressives? GEESH! Leave people having fun alone!


1 posted on 08/08/2013 12:40:57 AM PDT by Daffynition
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Great comment: **I’m from the government I’m here to kill all human joy and tax it.**


2 posted on 08/08/2013 12:50:18 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition

I’m not gonna call the cops.


3 posted on 08/08/2013 12:56:33 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Salamander

4 posted on 08/08/2013 1:13:09 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition

Geocaching is a great way to get kids outside, but we only go for caches that are a few miles’ hike; the low-hanging fruit isn’t worth it. If you live in an area with history, geocachers will find some nice hidden areas and direct you to them.

Prvate property rights are paramount, though; there is a screening process for placing geocaches. Even parks often require permits.


5 posted on 08/08/2013 1:46:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Daffynition
Just about every park that has Geocaches also has cleaner trails, and more usage.

It a great hobby, get some good exercise, burn lots of gas, see parts of your county you never knew existed The Caching Crew (2600 finds)

6 posted on 08/08/2013 1:49:23 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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To: kearnyirish2

My mantra to kids.....*Get out and STAY out*. When the government gets involved... they outlaw fun and tax it as well!

This summer. I’ve been exploring state parks in the state to kayak.....mostly places I’ve never been B4.

We found a remote park with a large lake. There are no *park rangers* during the week..... people are pretty much on their own. I love it. Families bring tubes, rafts, floats, dogs, off leash...yada. No one to say *You can’t do that here* it’s wonderful. And I don’t see litter and inappropriate behavior. Nirvana.

In every other park, nearer to urban centers w/ more bodies using them....it’s always...*no you can’t do that* for every move you make.

We were just the state beach in RI....there are no trash barrels....when you enter they give you a trash bag....and you bring it home with you. I think that’s a good idea. People, like most hikers and nature lovers are very respectful, responsible. Please government...leave us alone!


7 posted on 08/08/2013 2:14:06 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition
That is beautiful.


8 posted on 08/08/2013 2:27:31 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: kearnyirish2

The little punks have them *everywhere* here.

Property lines mean nothing.

Right now they’re planting stuff on ground they don’t know belongs to a very serious, scary branch of the gubmint.

Eventually they’ll run into one of the “Black BDUs” who patrol that mountain.

[they haven’t seen the ‘use of deadly force authorized’ signs, yet]


9 posted on 08/08/2013 2:30:54 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Salamander

You’ve inspired me to get up to Vermont and find those old graves in the woods and photograph them. :D


10 posted on 08/08/2013 2:35:45 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition

Good to know I’m not the only one out creeping around graveyards for kicks.

;]


11 posted on 08/08/2013 2:39:45 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Daffynition

“We were just the state beach in RI....there are no trash barrels....when you enter they give you a trash bag....and you bring it home with you.”

Sandy Hook in NJ is like this (one of the beaches near the top of the shore/closest to the urban toilets). You are expected to take your trash with you, but the people (the usual suspects) just leave it in the sand. We stopped going there a few years ago; it is worth a little longer drive and a little more money to go to a beach with people like us. I’ve seen the same policy at state parks in the mountains.

We’ve camped (backpacking) on state land where it is officially not allowed but they cannot police it; it is great, and we “leave only footprints”.


12 posted on 08/08/2013 3:48:12 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Salamander

Not sure where you are, but I believe geocaching started in CA. When people make them too accessible, they get stolen or vandalized (one near my house was filled with urine; it was not 100 feet from a major road, and probably drew too much attention).


13 posted on 08/08/2013 3:51:13 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Daffynition

Another example of local politicians overreaching.

It sounds to me (story could be reported wrong) like the concern was brought up by local council members, not a resident. The article cites a possible altercation if someone looks suspicious.

However, no actual incident to that effect is mentioned in the article.

So my guess is that there’s a council member who heard about this, and didn’t like something about it which prompted them to want to regulate it.

My advice to the community is, find out who this council member(s) is (are) and get them off the council as fast as you can.


14 posted on 08/08/2013 4:02:23 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

“Geocaching” sounds to me more like Al Qaeda planting IED’s. Don’t give them (Al Qaeda) any ideas.


15 posted on 08/08/2013 4:08:03 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Daffynition

16 posted on 08/08/2013 4:17:57 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: kearnyirish2

>> “leave only footprints”<<

Amen to that. *Pack It In, Pack It Out*

I’ve hiked a good piece of the AT [Appalachian Trail] and thank goodness, there’s not much litter....thanks to a network of dedicated volunteers.

Let’s not mention the tons of trash left by hikers trekking Mt. Everest. ;(


17 posted on 08/08/2013 4:27:17 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Salamander; Daffynition
Good to know I’m not the only one out creeping around graveyards for kicks.

Me, too!

18 posted on 08/08/2013 4:27:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: JoeProBono

Teach geeks about the outdoors, and that’s what you get. :)


19 posted on 08/08/2013 4:28:42 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition

My daughter’s ambition is to hike the AT. She has been talking about it since high school and is now in college and is getting more serious about it. Just 2 weeks ago, she and a friend did 8 miles at Harper’s Ferry. She can finally say she did some of it! :) Right now, goal is to do at least section hiking after college.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 4:35:22 AM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Daffynition

I really enjoyed it. I traveled internationally. Would always try to find a geocache on the weekend. Loved the travel bugs. I would drop them over there with a note to point them home to my own cache. They returned from Singapore, Melborne, Tokyo, Belgium, S Africa, Mexico, Spain, Brasil and Argentina. Passing through hundreds of hands that passed them forward. I still have them...nice treasures. One is still out there. It is a dog tag hooked to a rubber snake. You don’t put it in the cache but very near it. It is to teach the children to BE SAFE geocaching. I has been in circulation for almost 11 years.


21 posted on 08/08/2013 4:51:44 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: ZinGirl

Bless her! I opted for sections....which I regret b/c my knees are now too bad to finish. When I was younger...and always working...I never had the time for a through hike....now that I have the time ...I don’t have the health. C’est la vie.

Your daughter has my admiration...hope she enjoys every trek!


22 posted on 08/08/2013 4:54:07 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition
As is typical the author gets it totally wrong.

Error Number One: "A geocache is most often a trinket like a deck of cards, a keyring or a poem."

No A geocache is a hidden container that has a log book. It MIGHT contain treasure (A.K.A. SWAG in Geocache speak) but many geocaches are so small they can only contain the log. Especially urban caches.

Error Number Two: "It’s buried in a waterproof container of varying sizes."

Very few Geocaches are buried and If they are they are buried under loose rocks or piles of wood. In fact the guidelines for placing a cache absolutely forbid placing a cache wherein one needs to use a shovel to retrieve it. The Geocache sites don't want people running around with shovels digging holes especially when you consider that GPS units are only accurate to within 20 feet and that is under optimal conditions at sites with no large structures or trees nearby.

Error Number Three: "Geocaching begins with a piece of equipment — a handheld GPS (Global Positioning Satellite) unit, which costs anywhere from about $25 to $100, that you buy at a sporting-goods store."

GPS Units vary way more in price with very few under 75 dollars and most well over 100 Bucks. The more expensive ones have all manner of nifty features including a paperless Geocache logging system which is very handy!

23 posted on 08/08/2013 5:03:53 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Salamander
For a portion of my *artsy-fartsy* life, I was hooked on gravestone rubbing. Heh. I might have been able to make a living at it....while it was popular.


24 posted on 08/08/2013 5:47:43 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Excellent! THX.


25 posted on 08/08/2013 5:49:22 AM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Daffynition

Oh yeah. THIS is something the government should regulate! Good heavens ...

What’s Reagan’s famous quote? “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”


26 posted on 08/08/2013 6:25:54 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Salamander

Lol! Far from it. I love wandering around old cemeteries. The stories those tombstones tell ... I guess it must be the historian in me.


27 posted on 08/08/2013 6:29:36 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: ZinGirl
My daughter’s ambition is to hike the AT

Good luck, she'd better get seriously in shape. My cousin - who wrestled in college, and was seriously in shape - tried it, and quit after a couple of weeks. He said, "I'm eating 5000 calories a day, and losing too much weight. I literally just can't eat enough, or fast enough, to keep up."

The Northern End, especially Katahdin and Knife's Edge, is some amazing scenery.

28 posted on 08/08/2013 6:45:02 AM PDT by wbill
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To: IronJack

We should start a club...”The Creeping FReepers”.

:)


29 posted on 08/08/2013 8:48:40 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: kearnyirish2

The vast majority of ‘cachers here are Obama voter types.

It’s like they finally gave up Dungeons And Dragons, left their mother’s basement and started wandering around the woods, instead.

The morons even have nerdy LOTR/etc nicknames.

Apparently they don’t subscribe to the “clean up the trash” claims.

The leave trails of Red Bull cans and candy wrappers.


30 posted on 08/08/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Salamander

Lol! I suspect there are a lot of us out there, and not just on FR. Find-a-Grave.com is one of the more popular sites on the web. And I imagine if you look you could find half a dozen blogs dealing with cemeteries, tombs, catacombs, ossuaries, etc.. Some of the most requested tours in New Orleans, for example, are the tours of the “cities of the dead,” the vast burial grounds for generations of Orleanseans.


31 posted on 08/08/2013 9:02:57 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

I would *love* to visit New Orleans cemeteries.

My main interest is the old statuary and wonderful tombstones of the past.

Modern ones are all so four-square, unoriginal and banal.

My dad’s stone was just put in place last month and ‘fancy’ as it is, it’s just a variation of all the ~other~ ‘guy-in-fishing-boat-with-deer-and-mountain-scenery’ stones nearby.

On the flip side of that are “cemeteries” like the ones we took my gramma to visit in WV.

We’d tromp through somebody’s pasture to pay our respects to long-gone kinfolk who only had field stones with no names on them.

Gramma always knew whose rock was whose.

She’s gone now and I couldn’t even tell you exactly where in WV they are, let alone list the occupants of each rock.


32 posted on 08/08/2013 9:14:29 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: kearnyirish2
I Geocache also. I downloaded the $10 GPS Geocache Official site program to my phone. I get all the info on sites, log in my finds, if maintenance is needed etc. I have never trespassed on a hunt. It is fun hiking and looking for the clue for the cache. I find them all along highways in rest areas. A great way to walk the dogs and stretch the legs.

Some are micro caches and you can sit at a picnic table and not be aware your 2 inches from a cache. Plain fun and ingenious methods to hide them make for a fun outing, planned or spur of the moment. And yes I bag trash and haul it out.

33 posted on 08/08/2013 2:06:02 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: IronJack

I actually sorta Geocached some of Leawood’s dynamite once many years ago...

Ah, the indiscretions of my youth are the stuff of legends...


34 posted on 08/08/2013 2:18:13 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.)
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To: Daffynition

“Let’s not mention the tons of trash left by hikers trekking Mt. Everest. ;( “

In defense of those fanatics, dead men can’t carry out their trash. The AT passes through northwestern NJ; the lowest point of the trail is about an hour north of me (at Bear Mountain NY).


35 posted on 08/08/2013 2:28:31 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I don’t see the allure of such a hobby.

Of course they probably wouldn’t see the allure of the things I like either.


36 posted on 08/08/2013 2:29:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Salamander

Where is “here”?

I played Dungeons & Dragons when I was younger; I don’t see many D & D types near the caches we go for. I really want the kids (and myself) to get a workout, and I’m tired of finding the easy ones stolen/emptied.


37 posted on 08/08/2013 2:31:04 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I watch a Korean show called “Running Man” (with subtitles of course) and it is very entertaining. It makes me want to organize a Running Man club so we can all chase each other ripping name tags off each others backs.

Gotta be some good exercise in that.


38 posted on 08/08/2013 2:34:09 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JoeProBono
That's it!

Trayvon was Geocaching! He was just wearing a hoodie instead of a floppy hat, and had Skittles in his caching bag.

-PJ

39 posted on 08/08/2013 2:36:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Daffynition
I just did a quick Google search on geochaching, and found an article about a local cache on the Las Trampas ridge.

The funny thing is, someone reported not finding the cache, but instead found somebody's stash of drugs.

That's the problem around here. There are some hidden pot farms in the hills around here. People have been killed for accidentally stumbling onto them.

-PJ

40 posted on 08/08/2013 2:38:58 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: wanderin

I’ve never even seen a Geocache on private property; there are enough parks around so they’re not needed, and in northern NJ there are large state parks that are used to hide them.

Because I appeal to the children’s greed about what they might find, they don’t like micros.

Beware of muggles!


41 posted on 08/08/2013 2:49:15 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GeronL

I don’t see it as a hobby, more like exercise while I pursue my interest in history. There is something to be said about walking through what would appear to be pristine woods and coming upon roads, mines, and abandoned cemeteries that pre-date the independence of this country. I take GPS coordinates of various items (since they’re almost gone already), take pictures, and work up a sweat; my children were underground in old iron mines before they were 10 years old.

People certainly could be doing a lot worse...


42 posted on 08/08/2013 2:57:36 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

bump


43 posted on 08/08/2013 3:04:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JoeProBono

That picture’s great! When we go it looks like something out of Apocalypse Now (military surplus is dirt cheap at the nearby Meadowlands Flea Market near Giants Stadium). I even got this little Red Chinese folding shovel, about half the size of a US entrenching tool, that functions as a perfect little sh!t-pit digger. The old BDU pants are getting harder to find (the old woodland camo pattern); I prefer the buttons to the new Velcro crap any day of the week. I see them for sale in catalogs for $50, but got used to paying $5 for them. Also, you need to wear socks that you wouldn’t mind using as toilet paper.


44 posted on 08/08/2013 3:08:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GeronL

I’m not familiar with “Running Man”; is it something like MXC/extreme elimination challenge with the Japanese people? Their voices were dubbed over by American comedians while they went through various obstacle courses (like a savage version of “Wipeout”); I realize Japanese people are tougher than I gave them credit for when you would watch some of the women take shots to the head and still get back up. The grossest thing was watching how some of them would bend their spines the wrong way; in the midst of dying laughing you’d want to throw up.


45 posted on 08/08/2013 3:11:22 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Nothing that extreme. “Running Man” in Korea is usually very humnorous.


46 posted on 08/08/2013 3:14:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

MXC was a comedy; I believe the Japanese show they were using was a game show. There was nothing serious about it at all, but some of the suggestive dialogue made it impossible to watch as the kids grew older.


47 posted on 08/08/2013 3:18:13 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Japanese society is very perverted.

I stick to online Korean shows right now.


48 posted on 08/08/2013 3:19:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

The Japanese were mild (in the original program); it was dubbed & edited by American comedians to make it a filthy comedy.


49 posted on 08/08/2013 3:20:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Daffynition

I’ve done this with my son, it’s fun. It figures the nannystatists would want to regulate it.


50 posted on 08/08/2013 5:27:15 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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