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Saudi Women Unhappy With Feminization of Lingerie Stores
Arab News ^ | Saturday 5 October 2013

Posted on 10/06/2013 10:40:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway

The decision made by the Ministry of Labor and the Ministry of Commerce to feminize employment in women’s stores has created panic among saleswomen, who often have no background in sales and lack sufficient training.

Many saleswomen have been unable to familiarize themselves with the job function to execute their job efficiently and professionally. Sarah E., an employee who was hired a week ago at a women’s lingerie shop, said: “I am thinking of submitting my resignation. It is really difficult for me to deal with demanding customers.

“We were given a five-day training course before we started work. It was beneficial, though mostly theoretical. The only practical part involved detecting fake currency,” she said.

“I took up this job to change my routine in life,” said Basma, who worked at a women’s lingerie shop with three months’ experience. “Women have expressed their discontent with the decision taken by the ministry to enforce feminization in the sales sector at gatherings I have attended. They think saleswomen are slow, and they have a point,” she said.

“We never underwent enough training, especially on how to deal with customers, not to mention the fact that the store itself is not designed to accommodate female workers. There is no space for lockers to keep our belongings safe while on the job, which results in theft. We need more training, experience and patience from the customer’s side until we are properly trained.”

Aziza M., who works at a kids and women’s accessory shop, agreed with her colleagues.

“We never got the chance to learn from previous salesmen who were working at the store before us. They all left prior to our arrival,” she said.

Amal A., who works at a female lingerie shop, said: “We work in shifts that last long hours, making it difficult for us. The salary we are paid, which is around SR3,000, is hardly enough to cover our basic needs. Most of our money is spent on drivers. We were promised transportation, but nothing has happened so far.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: muslimwomen; muslimworld; saudiarabia
I thought before they were complaining about buying from men?
1 posted on 10/06/2013 10:40:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Pathetic people.


2 posted on 10/06/2013 11:03:46 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

These pathetic people are the pointy end of the spear trying to kill western civilization. They just use even more pathetic people to do their dying.


3 posted on 10/06/2013 11:10:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: nickcarraway

They all appear to be Democrats, whining about injustice, lack of training and productivity issues. And the men deserted them.


4 posted on 10/06/2013 11:11:54 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: nickcarraway

In 1980, we got assigned to the embassy in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. While my late wife was awaiting full-time employment, she was assigned to survey commercial businesses to determine cost of living indexes. Since women can’t drive, I had to chauffeur her around. We went into one lingerie shop and the male Pakistani clerk was only too happy to show her “some lovely lace panties that had just arrived from Italy.”


5 posted on 10/06/2013 11:12:35 AM PDT by Ax
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To: nickcarraway

I think they’re mostly complaining about the lack of proper training, proper facilities for female staff, and the fact that, since they can’t drive, period, that they’re spending most of their paycheck on hiring drivers, when transportation was promised.

Legit beefs given the confines of their repressive society. That fact that they’re even voicing these beefs is actually amazing. I figured they would have been stoned to death by now.


6 posted on 10/06/2013 11:15:23 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Ax

And since they can’t be in the company of an unrelated man, there can’t be a bus service to take them to work.


7 posted on 10/06/2013 11:18:14 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: nickcarraway

How hard could it be?

What are they really afraid of?


8 posted on 10/06/2013 11:20:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

They will be judged as whores for leaving the house.


9 posted on 10/06/2013 11:25:58 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: nickcarraway

What would constitute Arab lingerie, a Burka with a zipper?


10 posted on 10/06/2013 11:27:06 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: nickcarraway
allah wept

FMCDH(BITS)

11 posted on 10/06/2013 11:27:41 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: nickcarraway
There is no space for lockers to keep our belongings safe while on the job, which results in theft.

Wait' I thought SA was a Islamic paradise where theft is almost unheard of...

12 posted on 10/06/2013 11:28:07 AM PDT by Popman (Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
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To: BenLurkin
How hard could it be? What are they really afraid of?

The job itself an 8th grader can do, what these women are not telling you is that they are being treated like scum and whores by the islamic men shopping there.

They training they lack is in self defense....but then the islamic police would give them 1,000 lashes for defending themselves from sexual assault since they were the ones that put themselves in the position to work in a store that sets men off...

13 posted on 10/06/2013 11:29:41 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: nickcarraway
around SR3,000, is hardly enough to cover our basic needs. Most of our money is spent on drivers.

[Sigh] They're just not gonna turn around seven centuries of bassackwardness in one try.

14 posted on 10/06/2013 11:31:29 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Lady Heron
Just like woman in the US....you give them what they want and all they do is gripe and complain for getting it.

You mentioned the job was one an 8th grader could do....perhaps one with some degree of social skills who wasn't beaten over their head with the Koran messages.

You are talking about people who have everything dictated to them....of course they don't know how to interact with the public and or have the desired ability to learn their skills...they have the mentality of children for the most part...and this with a heavty dose of domestic abuse.

These woman have the same attitude Teenagers do coming into retail here. It's all about looks and standing pretty..smile and the world will love you. They get a very rude awakening when they discover retail is a lot of work and the public is demanding and rude for the most part.

15 posted on 10/06/2013 11:38:53 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

work is not a movie montage where everything gets learned, completed and figured out in a three minute song.

that said, the system over there has nothing set up for women to succeed at anything.


16 posted on 10/06/2013 11:47:23 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: caww

I resent your remark that it is women who gripe and complain. Men do plenty of griping and complaining too.


17 posted on 10/06/2013 11:50:47 AM PDT by erkelly (Never underestimate the stupidity of the stupid party!)
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To: nickcarraway

They’re having a problem with those split-crotch panties and push-up bras.


18 posted on 10/06/2013 12:01:47 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: erkelly

Well I am a woman and I will say it again...woman gripe and complain more often than not..that’s just a fact.

I see it all the time in my workplace..and have through the years....although there are exceptions to that “rule” it pretty much is the majority.

Resent it if you like...I don’t play “political correctness anymore”...

Men on the other hand, at least know how to get it out of their system and settle the matters....woman go on and on and on and always want to add to what’s already settled....they are ‘takers’ for the most part...men give a whole heck of a lot easier...and they do so far more gladly.


19 posted on 10/06/2013 12:01:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: SauronOfMordor

Bingo. It sure did complicate a lot of lives. In all the Moslem countries on the Saudi borders, women are permitted to drive.


20 posted on 10/06/2013 12:28:51 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

A good friend of mine worked at Aramco for a while in 1977 or so. Upon arrival, the Saudi customs people went through his wife’s glamour mags and carefully covered up every photo of a woman baring arms, legs or torso with a black Magic Marker. She got to keep the marked-up mags. It was hilarious and pathetic.


21 posted on 10/06/2013 1:04:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: erkelly; caww

I resent your remark that it is women who gripe and complain. Men do plenty of griping and complaining too.

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Men complain about 1/5 as much as women do in our culture.


22 posted on 10/06/2013 2:21:49 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Bigg Red
Men complain about 1/5 as much as women do in our culture.

Nah. If you ever want to see a pity party in full swing go to one of those threads where men say they are the only ones getting picked on. The "Woe is me I am so abused" is well beyond hip deep.

But of course they at the same time will be proclaiming that "They never complain".

23 posted on 10/06/2013 2:32:32 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: nickcarraway
For Saudi women, it really sucks when you find out that other women don't prefer to walk about in garbage bags with eye slots, doesn't it ladies?

Saudi Arabia has to be the most inbred and backwards hole on the planet. Oh, yeah, it also has the Muslim’s holy sites of Mecca and Medina. How quaint — 1,400 years of stagnation unmarred by progress.

24 posted on 10/06/2013 6:02:10 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: nickcarraway

How much training does it take to peddle drawers?


25 posted on 10/06/2013 7:44:58 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Bigg Red

<...”Men complain about 1/5 as much as women do in our culture”....>

Agreed though maybe even less. Their entire approach is different, and generally better as well as much easier to understand and arrive at solutions.

Woman don’t like to hear that but you can’t change the facts just because you don’t like it.

I learned well about how men approach issues over that of woman in my work years ago....it has changed very little except that men have to be more careful so as not to step on the toes of “sensitive” woman. Which IMO is ridiculous...
I saw many issues NOT getting resolved because woman were making issues over the most stupid things.....and it was endless!

Woman do offer a side of issues, but for some reason they can’t let it ride after they present it.....and they don’t handle defeat well at all.


26 posted on 10/06/2013 7:57:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Nah.....I’ll disagree...I don’t see that at all...unless they’re trying to engage the woman at their level. Woman understand better the woe is me...then men..and men know that.


27 posted on 10/06/2013 8:03:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

28 posted on 10/06/2013 8:07:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
BTW If the guys get like that just throw them this image...hahahahahah.....


29 posted on 10/06/2013 8:31:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Your choice.

But males are every bit as good at throwing pity parties as females.

And hold grudges? Oh yeah, twenty years later they are still telling you about how some girl wouldn't go out with them or how the referee blew that call or their boss just didn't appreciate them.

I have come to the conclusion that whining knows neither age, race or sex. The thing they all have in common is an ungrateful heart.

30 posted on 10/06/2013 8:58:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: caww
Oh then they would whine that I am just picking on them because they are guys and of course they are the only people that are ever picked on, Oh woe!

I just avoid them. You can't talk people into being happy.

31 posted on 10/06/2013 9:01:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s what happens when you subjugate women and don’t educate them.

What a bunch of crybabies, to boot.


32 posted on 10/07/2013 1:00:13 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: caww; erkelly
Men on the other hand, at least know how to get it out of their system and settle the matters....woman go on and on and on and always want to add to what’s already settled....

I agree.

I saw it plenty in the workplace as well.

33 posted on 10/07/2013 1:03:34 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: caww

Their entire approach is different, and generally better as well as much easier to understand and arrive at solutions.

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I agree. Usually men get to the point and are interested in problem solving, whereas many women just want to pick at little peripheral issues and whine.

Of course, I consider myself a woman who is above such behavior. :) Actually, I usually catch myself when I am acting like that (I think...).


34 posted on 10/07/2013 7:36:30 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Bigg Red

<.....”I agree. Usually men get to the point and are interested in problem solving, whereas many women just want to pick at little peripheral issues and whine”....>

Yes, and woman bring ‘into’ their workplace all the emotional drama going on outside the workplace far too often. Imagine a man coming into work saying he’s having a bad hair day! As if that statement covers whatever personal problem their facing before they got there.

I’ve worked with men and woman...and both together...by far I’ll work with a group of men over woman any day! You always learn from them and they are generally on top of what’s going on...And, as you said, they are indeed interested in problem solving and see these as a challenge to overcome.

Woman on the other hand see a problem as something in their way and react to it emotionally before they can get into the frame of mind to solve the issue...and that they can nurse for hours on end!


35 posted on 10/07/2013 11:35:59 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Woman on the other hand see a problem as something in their way and react to it emotionally before they can get into the frame of mind to solve the issue...and that they can nurse for hours on end!

What was that line from "As Good as it Gets"...."First, I think of a man, and then I take away reason and accountability."

36 posted on 10/07/2013 11:37:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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