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ART LAFFER: I Was Wrong About Inflation And The Fed
Business Insider ^ | 01/03/2014 | Rob Wile

Posted on 01/03/2014 10:22:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: thorvaldr
Food and gas (ie. the two things you actually have to buy, ie the two things that actually measure inflation) are specifically excluded from the govt inflation calculation.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics publishes the inflation rate both with and without gas and food. Now which one is publicized by the press during any month is up to them. The one used to calculate things like the Social Security COLA includes gas and food.

21 posted on 01/03/2014 10:44:44 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: DannyTN

The reason we are seeing fuel costs go up is at least two-fold. First, as all crude is purchased in USD, and its value has declined in real terms. Crude is negatively correlated to the dollar, thus the price of crude has gone up. Secondly, Asian consumption of crude has also gone up considerably over the last 2 decades.

Food costs are highly correlated to oil costs. Crude is used in the production of fertilizers, the powering of farm vehicles, the transport of food, and its display and sale. Thus higher fuel costs generally equals higher food costs.

Finally, with loss in GDP during 2008-2009, an opinion is that QE has replaced less than 75% of the loss, and that is partly why we haven’t seen inflation. Combined with a largely stagnant US economy and slow global consumption, inflation is low. However, it won’t likely stay that way, in my opinion.


22 posted on 01/03/2014 10:44:48 AM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: T. P. Pole
I think the supply is way up, but the velocity is way down.

Yes supply is up, but where is real capital.

Yes no velocity means no turns which means no real commerce. When the system crashed they essentially flooded the markets and banks with cash and really forced banks to get garbage off their balance sheets no matter what. But it feels totally contrived and controlled. Again no real free-market accelerator for growth...

23 posted on 01/03/2014 10:45:06 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Gen.Blather

Smallish loaf of bread yesterday 4.79.
Swiss cheese 22.95 a pound. Gas 3.69 a gallon regular, 3.89 ethyl at cheapo station. Breakfast (no orange juice ) with tax and tip at small diner 22.70. One bedroom apartment rents in marginal neighborhood ( pretty much ok to walk in daytime if you keep your wits about you; stay in at night) 2900 and climbing. 3600 in a safer area. But no, there’s no inflation. Because the fed govt doesn’t include these things in its “ inflation statistics “. Everything’s wonderful. The Obama regime is in power. What could possibly be wrong?


24 posted on 01/03/2014 10:47:51 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: SeekAndFind

His credibility will henceforth be a laff


25 posted on 01/03/2014 10:48:15 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nachum
This was explained by a guest economist from Germany on Luis Rukeyser's TV show back during the 1980's. He said inflation will be tepid in the future.

Nobody on the panel believed him because inflation was very high just previously during Carter's regime. What he explained is that the manufacturing capacity in Asia is growing by orders of magnitude. High inflation requires BOTH, excess monetary expansion PLUS lack of goods and services to absorb the cash. There is no shortage of goods and services from Asian countries as far as the eye can see.

Besides, Western economies are not growing at a fast rate. So there is no hard demand push.

26 posted on 01/03/2014 10:52:31 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: faithhopecharity
Smallish loaf of bread yesterday 4.79. Swiss cheese 22.95 a pound. Gas 3.69 a gallon regular, 3.89 ethyl at cheapo station. Breakfast (no orange juice ) with tax and tip at small diner 22.70. One bedroom apartment rents in marginal neighborhood ( pretty much ok to walk in daytime if you keep your wits about you; stay in at night) 2900 and climbing. 3600 in a safer area. But no, there’s no inflation. Because the fed govt doesn’t include these things in its “ inflation statistics “. Everything’s wonderful. The Obama regime is in power. What could possibly be wrong?

Where are you, Manhattan? Except for the gas prices, everything else where I am costs 1/3rd of what you cited.
27 posted on 01/03/2014 10:54:19 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: faithhopecharity

“Smallish loaf of bread yesterday 4.79.
Swiss cheese 22.95 a pound. Gas 3.69 a gallon regular, 3.89 ethyl at cheapo station.”

In 2008 it had taken 200 years to print $900 billion. That was all the US money in the world. in 2009 they printed $900 billion more. In 2010 another $900 billion. Then, they added $87 billion a month (quantitative easing.) The value of stuff hasn’t gone up, the value of the money has gone down.


28 posted on 01/03/2014 11:01:12 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: HangnJudge

Stalling. It is what I see as well. Save for the bright spots of energy production and what supports that the economy is stuck. I see storm clouds in energy production as well... oversupply. Short lived but I think we will see it and a reaction. Not horrible stalling but not good and very limited progression of have nots to become haves. We are about to end our spending years soon. I’m wondering how much / little maintenance will actually be?

As obastardcare impacts sink in I expect the bunker mentality of the sheeple will deepen. They will do what they have to do to provide access to medical care for their children and themselves. This will mean saving an emergency fund and there is also that huge premium increase to pay. The combination will wipe out discretionary spending for many of the common folk.

Job prospects still stink and that keeps wages down.

The economy can’t deal with a shock as great as obastard and his commie thugs without getting the wind knocked out of it. We have not yet seen the full impact of rising electric rates either. That will be ugly and is clearly contrived.

Three more years. What will be left? Who will rebuild?


29 posted on 01/03/2014 11:05:01 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Gen.Blather

Inflation has been cured by changing the metric: food and energy are no longer included in the inflation rate. However, even this doesn’t account for the lack of inflation that should be expected from the Fed’s infinite Q.

The only reason that I can see is that the money really hasn’t entered the economy. It is traded directly between the fed and select banks who then buy the debt and play the splits on the interest. Net effect: NULL except for the increase in debt.

The amazing (IE: totally unrelated to real growth or innovation) stock market is more of the fedgov mutual masturbation. Is there anyone who worked for Goldman who isn’t on the other side of the river? Insider trading has taken on an entire new meaning since this team has gained control. The SEC isn’t even a flea on a puppy’s hind end.

Thank God the Democrats are so opposed to WS and big banks, otherwise someone would suspect that they have been colluding to defraud and destroy the entire country!


30 posted on 01/03/2014 11:09:11 AM PST by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind
The buyer of the 80 Billion per month the fed has been selling is NOT the Chinese or retail investors it's the Fed itself!

That's right the Feds is buying it's own bonds

The money flow that normally would happen in Art's model isn't happening. This is why inflation is in check!

31 posted on 01/03/2014 11:11:31 AM PST by america-rules
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To: antidisestablishment

I agree, the Fed’s money isn’t in the economy yet pursuing goods and services. But the bulk of US currency is still overseas. As the value goes down other countries will send it here to buy goods and services; turn it into tangible assets. THEN, we’ll see inflation. Would it be racist to hang the president? ‘Cause I’d hang him regardless of his color.


32 posted on 01/03/2014 11:14:29 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: entropy12

Good answer.


33 posted on 01/03/2014 11:14:56 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: SeekAndFind

...... YET.


34 posted on 01/03/2014 11:16:57 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: faithhopecharity

You must live near Central Park in Manhattan for those kind of prices.

Here near the border of Poland, it’s:

$1.25 for a one-kilo loaf of bread.
$2.35 for one kilo of swiss cheese.
$3.35 for one gallon of milk (four one-liter boxes)
Fuel is expensive here, yes....about $7.89 per gallon.
Rent for a one-bedroom apartment (including energy + heating) is $215 per month. Quiet neighborhood.

If you want to save on the gasoline bill, a one-month all areas transit pass is $25. Covers the city and suburban areas, streetcars and buses.


35 posted on 01/03/2014 11:22:29 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Inflation does not appear to be monetary base driven,”

Too bad he doesn’t get it. So many people are without jobs, so many jobs have gone overseas, than there is much less money to spend. This drives prices down. Couple that with the inflationary effect of ‘quantitative easing’ and you have inflation and PHD’s working at WalMart.


36 posted on 01/03/2014 11:22:29 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yes. The wanton, reckless “printing” of money out of thin air (and the terrible ways it was distributed or “put into circulation”)
has been, in my humble opinion, a criminal raid on the living standard... and savings if you have it...... of every American citizen.

but it gets certain corrupt politicians re-elected....


37 posted on 01/03/2014 11:25:23 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: entropy12
Nobody on the panel believed him because inflation was very high just previously during Carter's regime. What he explained is that the manufacturing capacity in Asia is growing by orders of magnitude. High inflation requires BOTH, excess monetary expansion PLUS lack of goods and services to absorb the cash. There is no shortage of goods and services from Asian countries as far as the eye can see.

Had time to think about that now.

That has not held true for certain items that are in short supply. There is a short supply of gold now, but the price is extremely under it's value. On the other side of the ledger, we are virtually swimming in oil and yet the price of gas is inflated. We are driving much less too.

We're the massive rates of interest under Carter due to lack of goods and services? In real terms, I think not. Interest rates were high due to monetary policies at the fed. We continually manipulate the market and specific items sold.

38 posted on 01/03/2014 11:27:48 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: andyk
I thought the fact that 80% of the QE money being held by banks as excess reserves had something to do with keeping inflation in check, and when that ends, all bets are off.

Aren't the banks buying government bonds with the QE money?

The way I understand it, is that the US essentially prints the money for the FED to loan at zero interest; the banks borrow the money (at no interest) to buy US bonds (which pays a low, but very safe interest rate).

It's almost like a check kiting scheme-except it's being done BY the banks and the gov't. The government puts the money back out to sustain the growing non-working class.

Inflation is not so much an issue because it's counteracting the deflation that would normally accompany high unemployment and a shrinking labor force. There is a sort of equilibrium that will exist for who knows how long.

I know people say that the debt is unsustainable; but when you have the luxury of printing money that still has value, the cycle can continue in perpetuity. The balance sheet looks bad, but who cares?

39 posted on 01/03/2014 11:28:34 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: faithhopecharity

Did something I don’t normally do. I went to McDonald’s and got a value meal of a Quarter pounder with cheese, fries, and a drink. I literally asked the order take her if I heard her right that the cost was $6.59! What the...

Almost $7 for a “value meal”? That won’t happen again real soon. But yeah, there is no inflation whatsoever.


40 posted on 01/03/2014 11:29:41 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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