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"Trained to Kill"
http://www.killology.com/ ^ | August 10, 1998 | Lt. Col. Dave Grossman

Posted on 03/29/2014 9:59:00 AM PDT by B4Ranch

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To: Ken H; right way right; Vendome; centurion316

I have never seen the number bt;roken down but I wonder what effect having a father close at hand does to stop irrational violence such as murder.


21 posted on 03/29/2014 11:00:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: carriage_hill

Somebody put in the wrong date, I guess.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 11:01:03 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: DesertRhino

Cain brought “an offering”, Abel brought “the firstings and the fat thereof” i.e. a deliberate selection of the first and the best rather than just some assortment of whatever.

One offering demonstrates an attitude of gratitude and sincerity, the other of compliance for appearances sake. Sort of like democrats that yawp endlessly about the poor but have very low rates of charitable giving.

It’s quite obvious that God doesn’t respect democrats and that democrats will take the first opportunity they get to kill sincere believers in God.


23 posted on 03/29/2014 11:01:43 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: B4Ranch
I wonder what effect having a father close at hand does to stop irrational violence such as murder.

I would think that it would have a positive effect, but I would be very dubious of any study on the subject regardless of its conclusions.

24 posted on 03/29/2014 11:05:07 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: B4Ranch

I can tell you that my views were and are informed by my Dad’s example and lessons.


25 posted on 03/29/2014 11:32:13 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: B4Ranch

FANTASTIC ARTICLE - THANK YOU FOR POSTING!


26 posted on 03/29/2014 11:34:27 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: B4Ranch

**and two boys, ages 11 and 13, are in jail, charged with murder. ***

The last I heard, one of those boys was living in Fayetteville, Arkansas, about 30 miles from here.


27 posted on 03/29/2014 11:38:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: B4Ranch

28 posted on 03/29/2014 11:43:02 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: B4Ranch

His credibility went right out the window when he referred to a statement from the American Academy of Pediatrics. They are a radical left wing, and profoundly anti-gun organization. They are pretty much indifferent to pediatrics as opposed to leftist agenda politics.


29 posted on 03/29/2014 11:45:29 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: B4Ranch
Children don't naturally kill;

Yeah, they do. In fact children are more likely to kill because they lack the "governors" that are implanted by parental training.

They generally have less opportunity to kill.

But anyone who has worked with children know that given the right motivation they can kill even more casually then adults.

30 posted on 03/29/2014 11:51:35 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: B4Ranch

Nobody requires training to be bad. That comes naturally.

We spend time training kids from the time they can learn/understand, to be GOOD. Because we see they REQUIRE the training to be GOOD. What comes easy and natural is being bad.

The video games come into play because it’s conditioning the BAD part of people, to desensitize them and for some it crosses over into real living.

But what really kills us is the training to be GOOD is either ignored by parents to do, insufficient, or never was reinforced. And the lack of Christian faith in the house and such, makes it that much worse.

If you aren’t trainging to BE GOOD, and reinforcing it, and they’re only getting ‘training’ that reinforces BAD, there’s nothing they’re learning to put the video game or negative stuff into proper perspective and context. ie a Christian can explain that violence may be necessary in self-defense but not as a way to terrorize others or to be used trivially.


31 posted on 03/29/2014 11:52:08 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The boys skin color?


32 posted on 03/29/2014 12:02:48 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch
While I do not deny that video-games may desensitize teens to violence, do not forget that there are lots and lots of suburban middle-class teens doing violent video games, and somehow managing to resist the urge to kill everybody they see.

Meanwhile, we have other teens, in places like Detroit and Camden, who are killing people on a routine basis.

It's not video games that are prompting the killings.

33 posted on 03/29/2014 12:31:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
But what really kills us is the training to be GOOD is either ignored by parents to do, insufficient, or never was reinforced. And the lack of Christian faith in the house and such, makes it that much worse.

Exactly. Behavioral training in self restraint and good manners is found in few homes these days and many are completely clueless what its value was to society in the first place. All that "repression" has been replaced with "authenticity" and self esteem.

I recommend these books by Munro Leaf as gifts to parents of young children.
http://www.amazon.com/Munro-Leaf/e/B000AQ3R7M/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1

Scroll down past Ferdinand the Bull.

34 posted on 03/29/2014 12:31:16 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: B4Ranch
In the Jonesboro shooting?

White. Or if you want to be precise, a pinkish beige.

35 posted on 03/29/2014 12:38:35 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

and in Canton, Mass?


36 posted on 03/29/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Don’t know.


37 posted on 03/29/2014 12:48:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: B4Ranch

Jonesboro was not the largest school massacre. Not even close. This guy can’t do the most basic research.


38 posted on 03/29/2014 12:50:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: B4Ranch

Wow.....


39 posted on 03/29/2014 12:50:54 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: B4Ranch

Did a mass school shooting happen in Canton? I do not remember one.


40 posted on 03/29/2014 12:51:55 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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